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Anybody here know anything about connecting an iMac to a wireless network? I'm having a hell of a time keeping one connected on my home wireless network.

I've got a Buffalo WHR-G54S using WPA AES encryption and I'm not broadcasting the SSID. MAC filtering is active and the iMac's IP address is on the allowed list. As far as I can tell the iMac supports WPA AES because I can connect initially and everything works great, but once the machine is turned off or sits for a long time it can no longer connect. I then have to re-enter the network name/SSID and password (even if it is saved to the Keychain). Most of the time it connects, but I'll also get an error message saying the network does not support this encryption protocol (I've gotten that message using WPA-TKIP too.)

I just bought the router. Could it be a dud?? The error logs keep showing the iMac gets dropped and then re-acquired or something along those lines. I can post the error messages later tonight if anybody needs it.

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"Macs - they just work" :roll:

Reply to llama_man
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Get a wire. :D

Reply to riser

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3-0 now

Reply to llama_man
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Unfortunately, this wasn't my decision. My roommate's girlfriend moved in with us and her iMac followed. I'll have to double check, but I don't think the POS even has an ethernet connection. This morning the bluetooth mouse and keyboard crashed and required a hard boot just to get it working again. This is her second keyboard. The first one just felt like not functioning anymore for some reason. I've been using my $25 PS/2 keyboard for about 8 years now (heh, it's a M$ keyboard too!!)

She bought an iMac "because Bill Gates is evil". What can I say, she went to UC Berkley. Focking hippie. Now I'm going to have to go join some peace loving hippie Mac forum.

Thanks for nothing guys! :P

Reply to Anoobis
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buy a XP based machine... this has a better chance of working...
sorry had to be said...

~Cheers

Reply to lvdax

What the fcuk kind of computer doesn't come with a Ethernet connect?

Anyways, usually the way we connect Macs wirelessly is thru one of those Airport POS's.

Reply to dasickninja

Oh yeah, and Steve Jobs is Mr. Nice Guy. :roll:

Reply to llama_man
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Its supposed to be simple. Set the wireless in the control panel or whatever the hell its called now. Add your key in and its done.

They make it too simple that if something goes wrong.. eh, might as well be Canadian.

Besides, Bill Gates is probably one of the most humane person in the world.

Think about it.. he takes all our money on over priced stuff we want, then goes goes out and starts helping other countries and people who we really should be helping but we want gadgets instead.

/shrug

Reply to riser
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Hey man...it's all good. There's no need for harsh language. Just relax.............*smacks face on desk*......

Fcuking hippy forums. Sorry.

To be honest, I could be wrong on that not having an ethernet conncttion. I'll double check on that later tonight. It's just that my natural defense mechanisms kicked in immediately and I was driven to reject the iMac like one does a bastard redheaded step-child the minute it arrived in the house.

@ riser, you're right. It really is that simple to initially connect. Maintaining that connection seems to be the issue. Check this out from the hippy Mac forum I just infiltrated:

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"My computer can't connect to the AirPort network after waking up."
This is common, and it's because of the way WiFi networks work. These networks "hop" from one frequency to another in a set, predetermined sequence. As these "hops" are precisely timed, if your AirPort card doesn't know that it's been asleep (and that's apparently exactly what happens), then it won't know that it's fallen out of sync with the network and that it needs to reacquire the pattern.
The fix here is simple: manually disconnect/reconnect when you wake your computer up.
THe bad part about this issue is that it is not consistent enough for a straightforward "cure." Some computers have the problem and other, apparently identical computers don't. Sometimes there's a change when an AirPort update is installed, and sometimes there's no change...

More ideas about AirPort connections after waking up: according to MacOSX.com, you might be able to fix this problem by simply deleting your AirPort entry in your Keychain. This will result in prompting you to re-enter the passphrase the next time you connect, but apparently it als changes the way the AirPort card handles lost connections, and it might eliminate your connectionproblem.

Cut n Paste, word for word.

You know my old wireless network at our previous house using M$ and Linux machines worked great aside from a.....brief hardware issue. Apparently Macs just don't like to be woken up. They are quite feminine. Gotta get their beauty sleep and all.

Reply to Anoobis
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This morning the bluetooth mouse and keyboard crashed and required a hard boot just to get it working again.



Are those bluetooth devices interfering with the signal? They're not supposed to, but they're both in the 2.4 GHhz range, and it's suspicious that they're acting up too.

What's your environment like? Distances, obstructions, appliances, other WiFi devices?

Reply to VBDude
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The Buffalo is on the same level as the iMac. Distance is about 30 feet, straight shot, through 2 interior walls. It goes from my room, through 1 interior wall, through our loft (which does have a TV and PS2 in it), through the second interior wall to the room the iMac is in. I have cut the Buffalo's signal strength by 50% but the signal strength on the iMac is still at 90-95%. There is also a cordless phone base station located downstairs. The handset almost never sees upstairs (not that it matters) because we pretty much stick to cel phones. And yes, although I have not investigated it yet, I was suspicious of the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

Reply to Anoobis

No help from me except to say it appears the wireless on mac's sucks.

My brother-in-law was with me in Daytona, FL recently and he couldn't get a signal from his iMac (or was it a Macbook? I don't recall) (actually, he got an intermittant 1 bar signal - not enough to connect) from the metro-wifi there (accessanyplace - don't use it if you don't have to... dial-up was better). My Toshiba with an Atheros wireless had 3 bars of strength sitting right beside him.

He used my machine to do his work - that was fun to watch him gripe... :P

Mike.

Reply to fishmahn

Show her this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZQ_It0weI

Tell her to follow the directions regarding the "boat anchor."

Reply to tool_462
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9 views and no answers on that Mac forum.

Damn hippies.[/Cartman]

Reply to Anoobis
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If that Mac doesnt have an ethernet connection it must be an old POS, even my crappy old G3 Powerbook has one, and its from the like '98 or something.

@DaSickNinja: You seem to really hate at macs today, dont you have a Mac Pro?

Reply to apt403
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stupid question:

why not broadcast SSID and use MAC address filtering along with AES? using a combination of both those security measures makes it nearly impossible to wardrive. most your wardrivers will simply move on to the next house and use it's unsecured wireless network. (hacking it isn't worth the time... and very few people are even capable of doing so)

it seems to me the problem is the card can't find the wireless network upon coming out of sleep because you're not broadcasting the SSID.

Reply to mpjesse

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If that Mac doesnt have an ethernet connection it must be an old POS, even my crappy old G3 Powerbook has one, and its from the like '98 or something.

@DaSickNinja: You seem to really hate at macs today, dont you have a Mac Pro?


Running Linux and Vista. You might as well call the thing a PC.

Reply to dasickninja
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Poor thing, your going to make it cry tears of blood.

Which distro?

Reply to apt403
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Did you run into any major problems when you installed ubuntu? Ive been wanting to install it on my macbook for a while now.

Reply to apt403

Yeah, the first time it gave me an error stating that the Gnome system was screwed, but I just switched installation CDs and did it again. That time it worked.

Reply to dasickninja

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My roommate's girlfriend moved in with us and her iMac followed.

I don't see a problem... All of your computers are working fine, right?

Tell her that her stuff sucks and she has to shut it down if she leave it idle for over...... 30 seconds.

Reply to JustPlainJef
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That's exactly what I ended up doing mpjesse. Even if you typed in the SSID while it wasn't being broadcasted it wouldn't find it or it would give me the error about the network didn't support "this type of encryption" :? . As far as I know, she will have to manually connect to the wireless network every time the iMac "falls asleep" (how cute) or is shut down. The connection isn't always on or reacquired once the system "wakes up" (wake up sleepy head) or is turned on. The passphrase is saved in her Keychain and is setup to be used every time she tries to connect to the WAN. So all she needs to do is select my SSID from the available networks (there are others :twisted: ) & wait a few seconds for it to connect.

There's no such thing these days as a secure wireless network & not broadcasting the SSID doesn't do much, but with wireless as unsecure as it is these days every bit helps.

I told her to never buy another Mac. She asked if it could be an issue with the wireless router. I slapped her in the face, told her to be silent & to never question me again.

BTW, 13 views, 0 replies in that Mac forum.

Reply to Anoobis

104 views, 24 replies here. What's your point?

Reply to JustPlainJef
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I told her to never buy another Mac. She asked if it could be an issue with the wireless router. I slapped her in the face, told her to be silent & to never question me again.



:lol: Just a little extreme. Tempers flaring pretty big over this, eh?

Reply to VBDude

When dealing with Mac people, violence is never overreacting. I had to deal with a idiot Mac user yesterday.

She saw me using my laptop to do some stuff in Photoshop and told me that I could work more efficiently and get this, more creatively on a Macbook. So immediately I switch to angry black man, and reply with a scathing "Miss, how the fuck does a certain machine allow you to be more creative?" She danced around that issue and kept going on about how the Mac's are simpler and don't crash as much as Windows PC's and the typical Mac evangelist bullshit. So me, being in a enthusiast, begin to dress down the twit about security issues and the like. I told her that there is no god given right to use a PC. Its a god damn fucking privilage. It requires a certain amount of skill and at least some intelligence to work these machines. If you don't know how to use a computer without being swamped by spyware, or click on every fucking link that you see, then you deserve what ever viruses you get and would probably be better off using a damn Casio than $1000+ equipment.
After saying this, I reached over to her Macbook and proceeded to make it lock up.

Reply to dasickninja

Can I recommend that you scrape her face off with a potato peeler. And then rub her raw bleeding head in salt.

Reply to WingDing

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Can I recommend that you scrape her face off with a potato peeler. And then rub her raw bleeding head in salt.


Duly noted, I'll go find the bird tomorrow and do such. You want the corpse or do you want her still alive?

Reply to dasickninja
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Sadly, i know where shes coming from, i was the same way only like 30x worst for a while...I also have a macbook, im typing this post out on it, and it is pretty nice, the keyboard is awesome.

Reply to apt403

If I met you when you were 30x as bad a her, theres the possibility that I might have killed you. Or at least shoved the Mac up your ass.

Reply to dasickninja
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In addition to "Bill Gates being evil", my roommate's girlfriend justified her purchase by noting that Macs never get viruses.

Those absolutes have a strange way of haunting people.

Reply to Anoobis

Tell her about the WiFi exploit that Macs are vulnerable to. But emphasise that no one really gives a fuck enough to bother writing viruses for Mac's.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m24/dasickninja/MacTruth.jpg

Reply to dasickninja
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That anecdote you related about the idiot mac evangelist, terminating in hers being made to lock up... 10 points, man, 10 points.

Really, though, macs aren't all that bad little machines. They're very wonderful, in fact. Very lovely. My first iMac did very well for target practice when I got my Barnett, my mac notebook was subjected to getting driven over repeatedly on the national road one afternoon, and some other mac I purchased a year back for experimenting on eventually ended up getting hard-wired to one of the phases on a 3-phase 42KW induction motor.

Mac - very good way to stop being pissed off with M$ or Linux.

Reply to mugz

Part of the problem is that a lot of Mac evangelists stopped using PCs and still compare Macs to Windows 95. I think Windows XP is actually a pretty good piece of software [/prepares to be flamed].

My ex-housemate (who now lives in Colorado) came to visit over new Year and wanted to show me his scenery photos that were stored on his shiny new Ibook. He confidently claimed that it would just be a case of plugging it in. 15 minutes of fiddling with resolution and contrast later, I reminded him that I could have done it quicker on my PC.

Once we'd finished looking at the photos, whilst shutting down his beloved Mac, it crashed and white-screened on him. He informed me that that happens quite a lot. I told him that my XP installation has only crashed once (I tried alt-tabbing whilst a game was loading - it didn't like it) in the nearly 2 years I've had it.

Just to rub it in, I asked him how well his Mac ran Grand Theft Auto, and how much more than my PC it had cost.

He was a little upset.


Edit typo

Reply to llama_man

They are great machines if you actually dumb yourself down, and don't have any Mac lovers around.

Reply to dasickninja
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Amen to that.

@ the Llama: only a little?

Reply to mugz

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My roommate's girlfriend moved in with us



I am the grand master of fixing wireless networking problems like this.

Hump your room mate's girl bare-backed.

No more wireless problems and you score a half-decent root whilst at it. [/crude]

Reply to BomberBill
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Hey - it's gotta be worth a try.

Reply to mugz
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