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July 29, 2006 11:14:44 PM

I'm building my first PC and don't really have a clue what case/PSU to get.

I'm also confused as to a 24-pin PSU and a 20+4-pin PSU, are they the same? Will both be compatible with my Asus P5w DH Deluxe?

After some searching I decided I wanted above 500W for possible upgrades and futureproofing and would like to have modular cabling. I just need to find a case with good airflow and a nice layout, any suggestions?

These looked pretty good, any other suggestions?

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

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July 29, 2006 11:56:49 PM

Take a look at this review of several highend PSUs in the same wattage category as the one you listed. It should give you some insight as to which are better suited in terms of performance at idle and under load

http://www.bytesizedreviews.com/?rev_id=302
July 30, 2006 12:00:47 AM

good case, as far as PSU, i'd get Fortron Source or an Antec Truepower 550w.
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July 30, 2006 12:01:40 AM

what about my question with the 20+4-pins and 24-pins... is there a difference and are they both compatible with Asus P5W DH Deluxe?
July 30, 2006 12:22:56 AM

Hey Holcar,
the 24 pin is for dual core cpus and I believe SLI setups unless I miss my guess.

If anyone disagrees please correct me.

The 20 pin PSU's will probably be useless in the dual core and SLI world soon. Most of the new mobos will only accept the 24 pin set up but alot of the PSU's will have the option to remove the 4 pin of the 24 pin set up to use on mobos that have 20 pins just in case.
Bottom line is make sure you get a PSU with a 24 pin harness, just go t oa comp store and look at the mobo set up for the wire hook ups. You will notice that they will all have the 24 pin hook up.

RIG specs
Antec P180 PerformanceSeries Mid-Tower Case
SeaSonic S12 600 watt power supply
Asus A8N32 SLI mobo AMD N-Force 4 SLIX16 (bios 1103 V02.58)
RealTek 97 onboard digital 5.1 Surround
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo Core, 2 X 1mb L2 cache (AMD driver 1.3.1.0 w/MS hotfix)
2 gigs of Corsair TwinX3500LL Pro @ 437Mhz 2-3-2-6-1T
2- BFG Tech 7900 GT OC 256mb in SLI (nvidia driver 91.31)
Western Digital RAPTOR 74.3 gig 10-K rpm HDD for XP & Apps
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for gaming, movies, MP3's
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for document backup (unplugged)
Sony CD rom 52X
Plextor 708-A DVD/CD rom
Logitech Z-5500 digital 5.1 THX Surround 500watts
July 30, 2006 12:26:46 AM

Quote:
Hey Holcar,
the 24 pin is for dual core cpus and I believe SLI setups unless I miss my guess.

If anyone disagrees please correct me.


ok, 20pin vs 24pin. The extra 4 pins are there to help power the PCI-E slot.

20+4 and 24pin are the same. u can use a 24 pin PSU on a 20 pin mobo, the 4 pins will just hang off.
July 30, 2006 12:28:12 AM

The P5W DH Deluxe says 24-pin... so will 20+4-pin work absolutely fine compared to a 24-pin on this board?
July 30, 2006 12:46:32 AM

It might help to know what other compnents you plan on adding to your build so as to judge what PSUs to look at and which ones to avoid.
July 30, 2006 12:58:23 AM

Many power supplies come with a 20+4 power connector. This kind of power cable is compatible with both 20 and 24 pin motherboards. It can be split into two pieces. If you leave the pieces together then it's a 24 pin power cable. If you split the two pieces apart it becomes a 20 pin power cable and an extra 4 pin part you leave unplugged. The extra 4 pins were added to the 24 pin version of the cable to provide one extra wire for ground, 3.3, 5, and 12 volts.
July 30, 2006 1:39:14 AM

i like antec for cases and power supplies,i would use antec power supply with the case you listed. have you thought about the sonata 2 case? you didnt list all system specs but its a good deal for case and 450 watt power supply on newegg if it has enough power for the new build. the 20+4 is so it can be used on 20 or 24 pin boards
July 30, 2006 11:03:20 AM

Proposed Specs:

Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Core 2 Duo E6600
X1800XT 256MB (huge and HOT card)
2GB PC-6400 Corsair Memory 5-5-5-12
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB S300

ok so instead of Hiper Type R, how about an Antec Neo HE 550W?

I really want Modular cabling to save me the clutter and confusion.
July 30, 2006 12:37:04 PM

Hey holcar,
What I like about the Antec P180...and I guess you could also do this with other cases...is there are quite a few possibilities that allow you to "MOD" the wiring so there is " 0 " interferance with airfow. Sometime today I will shoot a low REZ photo of my Antec P180 to show the guts and wiring schematic so you can see what it can look like. I must tell you I am impressed with what I did. In fact when I had to take my rig in to have a hdd issue looked at the comp store where I buy all my stuff, the TECH's asked me who did my wiring and kind of even offered me a job !!! :lol: 

Anyway, if you want I can even send you a few high rez shots if your serious about the case....just send me a private message and I'll hook ya up K?
Mike aka paybax

RIG specs
Antec P180 PerformanceSeries Mid-Tower Case
SeaSonic S12 600 watt power supply
Asus A8N32 SLI mobo AMD N-Force 4 SLIX16 (bios 1103 V02.58)
RealTek 97 onboard digital 5.1 Surround
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo Core, 2 X 1mb L2 cache (AMD driver 1.3.1.0 w/MS hotfix)
2 gigs of Corsair TwinX3500LL Pro @ 437Mhz 2-3-2-6-1T
2- BFG Tech 7900 GT OC 256mb in SLI (nvidia driver 91.31)
Western Digital RAPTOR 74.3 gig 10-K rpm HDD for XP & Apps
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for gaming, movies, MP3's
Maxtor SATA II 250 G HDD for document backup (unplugged)
Sony CD rom 52X
Plextor 708-A DVD/CD rom
Logitech Z-5500 digital 5.1 THX Surround 500watts
July 30, 2006 12:56:50 PM

18amps over a triple 12v rail system - that's healthy and should handle any draw it encounters. I like that. It looks to be a good PSU as I know Antec has a good rep.
July 30, 2006 1:52:40 PM

paybax Id love some pics of the case and your wiring job :D 

you got msn? or you can pm me them would be good.

thanks
July 30, 2006 3:02:35 PM

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The P5W DH Deluxe says 24-pin... so will 20+4-pin work absolutely fine compared to a 24-pin on this board?


Yes. That's what the 20+4 pin is for, so it can be used on either 20 pin boards or 24 pins boards.
July 30, 2006 3:57:58 PM

20+4 or 24 pin will work on 20 pin mobo's If the extra 4 pins dont detach then they will just hang off.
July 30, 2006 4:02:27 PM

well If my budget could fit it I would be getting:

PSU: Seasonic S12 600W
Case: Antec P180

So unless I can find some extra money I'm going to have to go cheaper on one or the other. £180 for a case and PSU exceedes my budget.

I might just try gain an extra £40 for the Seasonic... will it be worth it?
July 30, 2006 4:11:27 PM

Here's a review of highend PSUs, of which the Seasonic PSU you indicated was one of them. It came out on top and Seasonic has a reputation for building very stable PSUs. That particular model is a very nice one with good amps across its multiple rails. I wanted to point you to this review so that you could see other units which may function as well (Silverstone, Enermax) or nearly as well within certain prices ranges - to give you other options to research yourself.


http://www.bytesizedreviews.com/?rev_id=302
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