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July 31, 2006 9:21:22 AM

I’m new here, and like a lot of people, I need help choosing a video card.

For the money I am willing to spend, these cards are available here in Australia:

6600GT 128MB 128bit GDDR3
6800GS 128MB 128bit DDR3
7600GS 256MB 128bit DDR2
X800GTO 256MB 256bit DDR3 (If I can find a discounted one)
X1600Pro 256MB 128bit DDR2

For my motherboard I have to have an AGP card. I think that all of the cards in AGP form have the same specs as their PCI-e counterpart except 6800GS, which uses an older GPU.

At the moment I am using my mobo’s onboard video, so anything is a step up, but I would like to get the best value for money. I don’t do much gaming now, but I would like to get into some.

Any help on would be appreciated.

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July 31, 2006 10:15:21 AM

first of all I think you have a mistake in there
6800gs has 256bit interface with the memory and 7600gs has 128, alos x1600 has a 128 bit interface

i would go for either of them except ..1600pro and 6600gt which are the weakest
x800gto looks promising...it can be easily oc-ed..
6800gs is known to have a lot of problems..but still a good choice
7600gs it`s ok comparing to the others..

look for benches ...normally i would choose a 256 bit card ..except for 7600gs which has only 128 bit interface.which shows in games like obly where x800gto and 6800gs have the adventage of their 256 bit interface...
July 31, 2006 10:27:45 AM

Well if you want to game, take the 6600gt and x1600pro out of that list. Is that 6800GS really 128bit? If so take that out of the list as well, it'll be crippled by the 128 bit interface.

So that leaves a choice between the 7600gs and x800GTO. I believe they have around the same performance but to my knowledge the 7600gs is a better overclocker and cheaper. So unless you can get an x800GTO for a great price then i recommend the 7600gs.
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July 31, 2006 10:35:35 AM

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first of all I think you have a mistake in there
6800gs has 256bit interface with the memory

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Is that 6800GS really 128bit?

It comes in two versions here. The one I can afford has only 128bit. :( 
July 31, 2006 10:51:12 AM

so i heard.....6800gs with only 128 ...it must be really weak.....out of the question

now it only makes it easier for you to choose ..x800gto or 7600gs....tehnically x800gto has better oc ing capabilities and higher memory interface...but 7600 benefits of the new 90nm tehnology...so it`s up to what king of game do you preffer ..

look for benches....

good luck
July 31, 2006 11:36:34 AM

browse around Ebay for 2nd hand cards.

You'll proabably get an X800XT PE on there for less than £100 these days, i've got one and its ace. Its more powerful than the GTO verison. If i recall i think it our performs the 7600gs as well. It only lacks SM3.0 but not many games make use of this yet.

If you cant get the card above try the X850 range. these are also great cards with great OC potential apparantly. Alot of people seem to like them as AGP solutions on here it seems.

People might be sceptical about 2nd hand componants but Ebay will supply you with some real jems in terms of value for money.
July 31, 2006 12:41:50 PM

ebay is a good source for all kinds of stuff. buy from someone with lots of feedback, pay with paypal, then try out the card immediately when it arrives, and you should be fine.

Mind you, living in Australia, your options are more limited due to shipping costs (obviously there would not be as many cards sold in AU as the US).

personally I have been using my x800gto AGP for about 6 months, and I have been LOVING that card. I would certainly recommend it if you find a price you like.

if you cannot find a good price for it, 7600 would be my next choice I guess.
July 31, 2006 1:03:04 PM

I would personally go with the X800gto. I just got one from newegg (the "SL" version), and it came with all 16 pipelines unlocked. BUT, if you are planning to play games (of course you are), you are REQUIRED to get extra cooling. The stock cooler SUCKS, and it dosent even cover any Ram. I was doing the ATItool fuzzy dice, and with the STOCK cooler, the temp kept rising, even @ 100% fan, and went to 96 Celcius. With the AFTERMARKET (Zalman), the temp never goes above 73 C.
July 31, 2006 1:32:10 PM

In reading this I didn't know a 7600GS existed. I went to NVidia's website and it only states that 7800GS exists in AGP. Did a search and found out the 7600GS came out in AGP only 11 days ago only on July 20. Because of this, I haven't seen any benchmarks.

If you can get one and can afford it, I'd get the 7800GS even though you didn't mention it. But before you do ...

A question for you. What CPU is in your computer? This has a lot to do with the type of video card you want. I'm not a heavy core gamer as I still run a Athlon XP 2400 and upgraded to a 6600GT last November.

If you don't have an Athlon 64, Pentium D or equivalent, you will just be wasting your money on a X800GTO, 7600GS or 7800GS. If you have an XP like I have, the CPU will end up being the bottleneck and you won't be able to use the video cards power. A 6600GT will be just fine.

In summary, I'd recommend the 7800GS first and then the X800GTO unless you have an older CPU and then I'd just get the 6600GT and save yourself some money.
July 31, 2006 2:42:29 PM

Still waiting for your X850 pro huh? Must be testing your patience. Luckily I ordered the X800XL. I'd be going crazy by now.
July 31, 2006 2:46:21 PM

Go for the 7600GS. You're not going to see much difference between that and the x800gto except for the newer features of the 7600GS. The 7800GS is too much to spend on AGP unless you've got money to burn.
July 31, 2006 3:00:28 PM

I'd go for a used X800 XL or 6800 GT on ebay.

The 7800 GS is the best AGP you can get, but it's a bit overpriced when you consider the X800 XL or 6800 GT will deliver about 90% of the stock performance for half the price used.

The 7800 GS is a good choice if you're into overclocking and have the cash, but otherwise it's a little steep for an AGP upgrade.
July 31, 2006 3:01:41 PM

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Still waiting for your X850 pro huh? Must be testing your patience. Luckily I ordered the X800XL. I'd be going crazy by now.

Indeed it is. And to add to it, they put my order on hold because they had to verify my address, which delayed shipping for two days. But, it'll definitely be worth the wait, and even moreso if it successfully flashes to an X850XT PE.
July 31, 2006 3:38:28 PM

As suggested, go for the X800XL direct from ATi; there's a link in Gary_Busey's post.

Sure, the 7800GS may claim to be the performance champion on AGP, but it can't win all games, and at best, merely edges out the X850XT PE; the X800XL isn't that far below it, and is about half the price.

In fact, in some games, namely F.E.A.R. and Oblivion, the X800XL would give the 7800GS a run for its money; in the latter game, it soundly BEATS the 7800GS, and can edge out even the 7800GT.

The lack of SM 3.0 support, in my opinion, is no biggie; about half of HDR-using games have a mode supported by SM 2.0b cards such as the X800XL, and those that don't still look great without it.
July 31, 2006 3:41:40 PM

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As suggested, go for the X800XL direct from ATi; there's a link in Gary_Busey's post.

Sure, the 7800GS may claim to be the performance champion on AGP, but it can't win all games, and at best, merely edges out the X850XT PE; the X800XL isn't that far below it, and is about half the price.

In fact, in some games, namely F.E.A.R. and Oblivion, the X800XL would give the 7800GS a run for its money; in the latter game, it soundly BEATS the 7800GS, and can edge out even the 7800GT.

The lack of SM 3.0 support, in my opinion, is no biggie; about half of HDR-using games have a mode supported by SM 2.0b cards such as the X800XL, and those that don't still look great without it.


Good points there. If you have to have nvidia on AGP go with one of the 256bit 512mb vanilla 6800's, or a 6800gs 256bit. But DON'T buy the 7800gs unless you get the 7800gs+ (7900gt GPU version). Which is still a ripoff but at least it gives a big performance improvement over the competition (x800xl etc).
July 31, 2006 5:40:09 PM

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Good points there. If you have to have nvidia on AGP go with one of the 256bit 512mb vanilla 6800's, or a 6800gs 256bit. But DON'T buy the 7800gs unless you get the 7800gs+ (7900gt GPU version). Which is still a ripoff but at least it gives a big performance improvement over the competition (x800xl etc).

Indeed; this is why, it should be noted, Cleeve's list doesn't include any AGP cards beyond $150US. (link) At that point, AGP cards are rediculously more expensive than their PCI-express counterparts, and it gets to simply be the case where it could be more cost-effective to replace one's PC, as extreme as it may be.
July 31, 2006 7:43:01 PM



For that price, you get a 7800GS, and save yourself 50-75 bucks at the same time.
July 31, 2006 7:48:40 PM

That's in Australian currency.
July 31, 2006 8:18:38 PM

Go for the 7600GS its ok
July 31, 2006 10:32:03 PM

I'll second the CPU importance. Everyone is just telling him to get the best card, not the best card for the money. You will start seeing bottlenecks with all of those cards (lowering their value). Most people seem to say that even a 6600 GT will be bottlenecked with something near a 2.4 P4 or equivilant.

When I upgraded my bro's Athlon Xp 1800+ we got him an 6200 unlocked the extra pipeline and overclocked the card. 40 bucks for 2400 marks in 3Dmark05 was an incredible value, and played his new games sufficiently.
July 31, 2006 10:36:10 PM

Thanks for all the replies.

I appreciate everyone saying I should get better, more expensive cards, like the X850’s or a 7800GS, but they are up to twice the price of what I can afford, so they’re out of the question. :(  I only have AUD200 to spend.

I don’t want to buy anything second hand or from overseas, as I want to have the security of being able to easily return the card if there are problems. I have seen others caught out in the past and don’t want it to happen to me.

Like purdueguy, I have an Athlon XP, but I don’t think I’ll be wasting money getting something better than a 6600GT, because they are the same price as a 7600GS, so I may as well get the later one.

So, it looks like the choice is between the 7600GS and the X800GTO. Has anyone seen any reviews comparing the two? At the moment I’m leaning towards the 7600GS, because it is cheaper, and because of the comment from sugi123 that I will need extra cooling for the ATI card.
July 31, 2006 11:20:06 PM

what about a 7800gs? lol
July 31, 2006 11:47:29 PM

Here you will be able to compare the 7600GS and the X800GTO, though the article is in french (graphics are self-explanatory) and they are the PCI-Express versions (no difference in performance). They will trade blows in various games, but the only clear advantage of the 7600GS is SM3.0 support.

The 6800GS will generally beat both, though.
August 1, 2006 12:56:46 AM

The 6800 GS will beat both in PCI express, but the 6800 GS AGP is severely crippled compared to it's PCIe brethren... much lower clocspeeds because it's based on the 6800 GT/Ultra processors, it's basically an overclocked 6800.

Not sure it would beat an X800 GTO as far as raw framerates in AGP. Does have a chance of unlocking pipes to 6800 GT specs though...
August 1, 2006 3:20:22 AM

If u live in Australia and if u don't know try using these price comparison sites

www.ozpriceguide.com
www.staticice.com.au

This will save u $30+ compared to buying from a retail outlet since the sites listed are online retailers with no shopfront. Most of them u can also arrange to pay when u pick up as well.

for the www.ozpriceguide.com I recommend using "search by features" then sorting 1.Price 2.Memory 3.Processor

For staticice i recommend u type AGP along with watever card

After checking both sites out i have determined that u can get a x800gto for $197 in Vic and a 6600gt for $181 in NSW, You should be able to find a online retailer near by, that way u don't have to pay delivery and can pickup. I have no idea how much it cost in delivery from one state to another but I dont think it will be over $20 maybe only $10.

The 6600gt at that price has 128mb of ram compared to the 256mb of th x800gto

Are u sure the 7600gs is AGP and not pcie, not sure how u can obtain a AGP version so fast in Australia when someone posted that it just came out in America.

It sucks but AGP cards are rippoffs compared to their PCIE counterparts unless u buy from ebay.
August 1, 2006 3:55:34 AM

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Good points there. If you have to have nvidia on AGP go with one of the 256bit 512mb vanilla 6800's, or a 6800gs 256bit. But DON'T buy the 7800gs unless you get the 7800gs+ (7900gt GPU version). Which is still a ripoff but at least it gives a big performance improvement over the competition (x800xl etc).
The 7800gs+ is the G71 board right?
August 1, 2006 11:15:08 AM

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Here you will be able to compare the 7600GS and the X800GTO, though the article is in french (graphics are self-explanatory) and they are the PCI-Express versions (no difference in performance). They will trade blows in various games, but the only clear advantage of the 7600GS is SM3.0 support.

The 6800GS will generally beat both, though.


But the 6800GS he is thinking of purchasing is only 128bit. The 128bit bus cripples that card and makes it slower than a 6600gt (lower clocks, 8 pipes etc).
August 1, 2006 11:16:31 AM

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Good points there. If you have to have nvidia on AGP go with one of the 256bit 512mb vanilla 6800's, or a 6800gs 256bit. But DON'T buy the 7800gs unless you get the 7800gs+ (7900gt GPU version). Which is still a ripoff but at least it gives a big performance improvement over the competition (x800xl etc).
The 7800gs+ is the G71 board right?

I do believe so. I want one for my old Northwood system (2.8 400FSB @ 3.7) as it is being bottlenecked by that crappy 6600gt it has :( .
August 1, 2006 3:26:11 PM

I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.
August 1, 2006 4:25:57 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.
August 1, 2006 7:27:42 PM

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You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.
It's a good card, bit expensive but overclocks beauifully to give an added kick to everything. Beat out my 6800 Ultra by a fair margin.
August 1, 2006 9:02:43 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.

Your not serious right??? an FX62 and an 7900GT in AGP????

NO AM2 boards support AGP, so pairing a FX62 and a 7800GS is impossible, and a 7900GT would completely destroy a 7800GS. the 7800GS is between a 6800GS and a 7800GT, so a 7800GS is more like a 7600GT.

please dont talk like you know what your talking about
August 1, 2006 10:29:09 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.

Your not serious right??? an FX62 and an 7900GT in AGP????

NO AM2 boards support AGP, so pairing a FX62 and a 7800GS is impossible, and a 7900GT would completely destroy a 7800GS. the 7800GS is between a 6800GS and a 7800GT, so a 7800GS is more like a 7600GT.

please dont talk like you know what your talking about

I only made one mistake there, i meant the FX60 not the FX62 (In 939 obviously).

And it is possible to get a 7900GT in AGP, it's called the 7800GS+.

Link:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Nvidia_AGP_Graph...

Scroll down and you'll find a 7800 with a 7800gt GPU and the 7800GS+ which has a 7900GT GPU.

If you want to argue some more, i'll find you some reviews for you showing an "old" AGP system beating the cr*p outta "new" pci-e systems.

AGP is far from being fully utilized. There is still plenty of bandwith left available on AGP. I have a 6800GT running in AGP 4X and it is not bandwith starved at all.

The only reason we jumped to PCI-E so soon was that companies want to push "new and fast!" technology.
August 1, 2006 10:38:33 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.

Your not serious right??? an FX62 and an 7900GT in AGP????

NO AM2 boards support AGP, so pairing a FX62 and a 7800GS is impossible, and a 7900GT would completely destroy a 7800GS. the 7800GS is between a 6800GS and a 7800GT, so a 7800GS is more like a 7600GT.

please dont talk like you know what your talking about

I only made one mistake there, i meant the FX60 not the FX62 (In 939 obviously).

And it is possible to get a 7900GT in AGP, it's called the 7800GS+.

Link:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Nvidia_AGP_Graph...

Scroll down and you'll find a 7800 with a 7800gt GPU and the 7800GS+ which has a 7900GT GPU.

If you want to argue some more, i'll find you some reviews for you showing an "old" AGP system beating the cr*p outta "new" pci-e systems.

AGP is far from being fully utilized. There is still plenty of bandwith left available on AGP. I have a 6800GT running in AGP 4X and it is not bandwith starved at all.

The only reason we jumped to PCI-E so soon was that companies want to push "new and fast!" technology.

wow, my bad, I wish Gainward would bring those things over to the states.
August 1, 2006 10:39:22 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.

Your not serious right??? an FX62 and an 7900GT in AGP????

NO AM2 boards support AGP, so pairing a FX62 and a 7800GS is impossible, and a 7900GT would completely destroy a 7800GS. the 7800GS is between a 6800GS and a 7800GT, so a 7800GS is more like a 7600GT.

please dont talk like you know what your talking about

I only made one mistake there, i meant the FX60 not the FX62 (In 939 obviously).

And it is possible to get a 7900GT in AGP, it's called the 7800GS+.

Link:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Nvidia_AGP_Graph...

Scroll down and you'll find a 7800 with a 7800gt GPU and the 7800GS+ which has a 7900GT GPU.

If you want to argue some more, i'll find you some reviews for you showing an "old" AGP system beating the cr*p outta "new" pci-e systems.

AGP is far from being fully utilized. There is still plenty of bandwith left available on AGP. I have a 6800GT running in AGP 4X and it is not bandwith starved at all.

The only reason we jumped to PCI-E so soon was that companies want to push "new and fast!" technology.

wow, my bad, I wish Gainward would bring those things over to the states.

Sorry for the arguementative tone, it's been a long hard day :( 
August 1, 2006 10:41:17 PM

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I don't know what your local price is for the x1600, but I have a x1600 Pro 512 that was $135US and it runs BF2 online, FEAR, Far Cry, AOEIII, HerosIV, etc. just fine but not necessarily on the high settings. That card has only a 128 interface to the memory. I run a Athlon XP 2800+ with 1.5GB of ram.

My son has a AGP 6800GS that cost $40 more and it's defineately faster than my x1600. He hasn't had any problems with it at all.

Since you aren't a heavy gamer now and have AGP you shouldn't spend a lot on a GFX card IMO. Better to save for a system overhaul. By the time we get into early 2007 basically no new game will run well, if at all, on an old AGP system.


You're wrong there about no new games running on an agp system. You could have an FX62 and 2gb RAM with a 7900GT in AGP and that should run all new games fine for the next year or two.

By the 7900gt i mean the 7800GS+ which is a 7900gt GPU for AGP.

Your not serious right??? an FX62 and an 7900GT in AGP????

NO AM2 boards support AGP, so pairing a FX62 and a 7800GS is impossible, and a 7900GT would completely destroy a 7800GS. the 7800GS is between a 6800GS and a 7800GT, so a 7800GS is more like a 7600GT.

please dont talk like you know what your talking about

I only made one mistake there, i meant the FX60 not the FX62 (In 939 obviously).

And it is possible to get a 7900GT in AGP, it's called the 7800GS+.

Link:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Nvidia_AGP_Graph...

Scroll down and you'll find a 7800 with a 7800gt GPU and the 7800GS+ which has a 7900GT GPU.

If you want to argue some more, i'll find you some reviews for you showing an "old" AGP system beating the cr*p outta "new" pci-e systems.

AGP is far from being fully utilized. There is still plenty of bandwith left available on AGP. I have a 6800GT running in AGP 4X and it is not bandwith starved at all.

The only reason we jumped to PCI-E so soon was that companies want to push "new and fast!" technology.

wow, my bad, I wish Gainward would bring those things over to the states.

Sorry for the arguementative tone, it's been a long hard day :( 

LOL, i hear ya, my tone was way worse.
August 2, 2006 5:40:57 PM

I was looking at another post about AGP cards and this is one heck of a deal. Go to the following link: http://shop.ati.com/searchresults.asp?dept_id=39

This is ATI's clearance center. They have the X850PRO 256MB AGP for only $139.00.

In the post, it was mentioned that you could flash it to get working like a X850XT PE. I'm assuming all of the pipelines would have to be in working order.

This is my new recommendation.
August 2, 2006 5:57:31 PM

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I was looking at another post about AGP cards and this is one heck of a deal. Go to the following link: http://shop.ati.com/searchresults.asp?dept_id=39

This is ATI's clearance center. They have the X850PRO 256MB AGP for only $139.00.

In the post, it was mentioned that you could flash it to get working like a X850XT PE. I'm assuming all of the pipelines would have to be in working order.

This is my new recommendation.


Apparently barely any of those flash to XT PE, as the pipelines aren't actually on the card. Or so i have heard.
August 2, 2006 6:20:15 PM

:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.
August 2, 2006 6:23:56 PM

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:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.


It's all down to personal preference really.
August 2, 2006 6:26:10 PM

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:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.


It's all down to personal preference really.

True that 8)
August 2, 2006 6:28:50 PM

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:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.


It's all down to personal preference really.

True that 8)

Sheep are too stupid to lie :p 
August 2, 2006 6:38:39 PM

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:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.


It's all down to personal preference really.

True that 8)

Sheep are too stupid to lie :p 
LOL :roll:
August 2, 2006 6:51:21 PM

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:idea: I'd go with X800GTO.


It's all down to personal preference really.

True that 8)

Sheep are too stupid to lie :p 
LOL :roll:

I love laughing at myself, lots more fun than letting other people making the jibes first.
August 2, 2006 6:54:05 PM

you have a point :D 
August 2, 2006 7:07:26 PM

I took a look at Anandtech and the X800XL beats the X850Pro. ATI has the X800XL for $119. It's refurbished but it still has a 1 year warranty.

And from what I've read, the stock cooler for the X850Pro won't allow it to run at 850XT PE speeds.

Since your running an Athlon XP, the X800XL now looks like your best bet.
August 2, 2006 7:16:41 PM

Quote:

NO AM2 boards support AGP


Asrock's 939dual-SATA2 supports AGP, and the new AM2 socket with an add-on board.

So it is possible... for argument's sake. :) 
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