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July 31, 2006 10:42:20 PM

Has anyone heard of the X1950XT.

Legion Hardware has this statement today "The answer to the GeForce 7900GT!" with a short article and link to this page. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33368

It looks like there will be another card to add to the X1800XT vs 7900GT vs X1900GT threads.

If anyone has seen anyother articles please post them.

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July 31, 2006 11:08:11 PM

"The X1950 XTX running the R580+ core will still be slower than the doubled-up GX2 but we are sure that two X1950 XTXes will beat the single 7950 GX2. The cards will surface in late August and should be available from launch. We know that they will use GDDR 4 and that will end up seven percent faster from the current X1900 XTX cards, and will retial initially for 419 Euros and will soon drop to 399 Euros."

This is a quote from another thread on page 3 of this section if you want to check it out.
July 31, 2006 11:10:45 PM

Last I checked, this is going to be the new flagship model.

So I doubt its aimed @ the 7900GT. Actually, in all honestly, the 7900GT is the direct competitor to the X1800XT (including the 7800GTX)

I believe the 256mb versions will be the X1950 pro perhaps....maybe will a slightly lower memory clock when compared to the XT, but thats about it.
Good news, should drive down prices for the X18 and 1900 series at least a bit.

"7% faster" ??? thats a helluva ballpark figure. I have a feeling stock yes, it will only be that much, but once end users (such as Cleeve, bastard probably has one now :lol:  :lol:  ) that performance margin will grow.

This is what I like to see from ATI. This GPU I feel is actually a statement, as the R520 and R580 designs initially called for GDDR4, but samples werent readily available. Which was part of the delay for the R520 to market. ATI planned on GDDR4 to be in the X1800XT (a nice bandwith boost to extend its lead over the 7800GTX and 7900GT) - but since the design was a little screwed @ TSMC *cough Nv* cough** and memory wasnt "available" *BS*, the launch was in a way---forced: In order to prevent ATI from losing more market share. I can just image, what if ATI didnt ever have those "issues" at the fab which I'm sure put a cripple in plans, I think my X1800XT would be on GDDR4 right now.
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July 31, 2006 11:23:49 PM

The impression that I got was that the X1950XTX would be the flagship model. While the X1950XT would be a compitor to the 7900GT.

But now that I think of it that does not make sence. The X1900XT is already a higher end card than the 7900GT. A X1950GT would be a more accurate competitor. Something to replace the X1900GT.
July 31, 2006 11:47:51 PM

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July 31, 2006 11:59:21 PM

Already saw that Rich. I think somebody is playing a trick with us though....

This GPU codename is the R580+ becuase its an extension and not a refresh.

That codename in the top right says R590. Unless ATI made a last minute switch, which I highly doubt.

80nm ATI GPU's were only in working silicon just a while back, I highly doubt they've had time to tap out the complete design and produce enough for volume before the Aug. deadline. Which leads me to believe its still 90nm. Plus I thought ATI was pushing the majority of 80nm design @ TMC :?: :?:

Grape: You heard anything more about this?? I've been outta the game for a couple weeks here.

As for the clock speeds...I can't argue, my X1800 made 750mhz without breaking a sweat or any significant voltage increase on the core. So that looks to be about right.

X1950 being single slot? hell if the price is right, that could be one sweet GPU.

Edit: Booyah, who called an Aug 23rd launch date??? yeah!!
July 31, 2006 11:59:21 PM

That picture is not valid and the stats are somewhat incorrect
A valid picture of the x1950xtx (much better looking)
can be found here along with actual statistics X1950XTX
August 1, 2006 12:00:46 AM

I corrected photo... I had used wrong one when posting. They looked alike. :wink:
Now they are correct.
August 1, 2006 12:04:09 AM

where did you get your picture from rich?
August 1, 2006 12:13:45 AM

The X1950XT/X will be ATI's fastest card, designed to replace the X1900. It will compete with (and probably be faster than) the 7900GTX. It is not a dual-GPU card designed to compete with teh 7950GX2, as the "50" at the end might lead one to beleive.
August 1, 2006 12:21:51 AM

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The X1950XT/X will be ATI's fastest card, designed to replace the X1900. It will compete with (and probably be faster than) the 7900GTX. It is not a dual-GPU card designed to compete with teh 7950GX2, as the "50" at the end might lead one to beleive.


Gee Bob...we had no idea :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

The X1900XTX is the 7900GTX's main competition. This GPU, is like I said, just a flagship. But, I wonder if the compositing will now be in the GPU this way you can run XF without a master card.
August 1, 2006 12:31:20 AM

I would like to see them available by September for $399 to $499 as stated, that would be nice.
I am pretty sure they will dominate a 7900GTX... all while cool and quiet respectively. :wink:
August 1, 2006 12:39:43 AM

I dont think ATI is worried about keeping the performance crown from the 7900GTX ....they have that with the X1900XTX already. This is simply the last hurrah for DX9. Its been a helluva fun ride, but nearly 5 years is enough for any standard imo.
August 1, 2006 1:30:01 AM

I was planning on getting a 7900GT next week. Now I have to decide if I am going to wait until the end of the month and get the X1950XT instead.

I would like to get a ATI card, but do not know if I can wait another two weeks. Plus, the X1950XT might be a little out of my price range.
August 1, 2006 2:34:10 AM

A good comprimise would be the HiS IceQ3 X1900XT then.
Similar type cooler design unique to HiS, best in teh X1900 class.
August 1, 2006 4:03:40 AM

The X1900XT is out of my price range. I do not want to spen more than $250. That is why I was going to get the 7900GT, at $240 after rebate. Now I may get the X1900GT, which is $180 after rebate. But if the X1950XT is $250 I would much rather buy that.

Should I wait until the X1950XT comes out and see what happens with prices all around?
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August 1, 2006 5:11:48 AM

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Here is a picture of the final sample X1950XTX


LOL! I think I've seen that before. :twisted:
August 1, 2006 5:16:49 AM

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Should I wait until the X1950XT comes out and see what happens with prices all around?
YES! :p 

Patience is a virtue, good things come to those who wait, etc. etc.
vs.
There are times when you have to follow your heart and run with the wind etc. etc.

But IMHO hardware purchases generally don't fall into that category.
Unless:
1) Your "now" option is a run out model and won't be available later - this doesn't apply here as I'm sure you'll be able to get a 7900GT later if other prices don't go where you want them to; or
2) You are getting a specific collectable item. If you have a deep passion for the GeForce 7900 GT then ... 8O ... maybe you shouldn't wait and suffer a lifetime of regret.

Was I helpful? :) 
August 1, 2006 5:48:26 PM

Okay, I think I have made up my mind, but I am will probably change it again by next week.

I am just going to get the X1900GT next week if it is still $180 after rebate. I am going to want to replace it next year with a DX10 card anyway. It is just so much cheaper than the 7900GT, and the soon to be released X1950XT with comparable preformance. I am not going to be able to wait until September sometime for the X1950 Pro.

Anymore opions would be appritiated. Thanks for the input so far.
August 1, 2006 6:19:20 PM

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Has anyone heard of the X1950XT.

Legion Hardware has this statement today "The answer to the GeForce 7900GT!" with a short article and link to this page. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33368

It looks like there will be another card to add to the X1800XT vs 7900GT vs X1900GT threads.

If anyone has seen anyother articles please post them.

A plain X1950XT? If it does indeed have around the same core speed as the X1900XTX, and if the memory's at 2.0GHz... It won't be an answer to the 7900GT; The X1800XT trades blows with that card.

Rather, it would be an inexpensive, rather high-end card.

The X1950XTX may not "best a 7950GX2." What kills me, though is the way they phrase it as, "we are sure that two X1950 XTXes will beat the single 7950 GX2."

D'oh! The 7950GX2 is very much like a pair of 7900GTs on one card. (though the core clocks are raised from 450MHz to 500MHz) In other words, even the X1900XT would beat one of the GPUs in it; a pair, assuming that CrossFire was functional in the application in question, would beat one card; a pair of X1950XTX cards would absolutely crush one, and be close in performance to two.
August 1, 2006 7:54:33 PM

There will always be a new card coming in a couple months. If you restrain from buying a video card just because of that, you'll basically be always waiting :wink:

So, by all means, get that X1900GT if it's selling for so cheap. If you can fit a X1800XT in your price range, it's a better performer though.
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