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I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know if I
should post this elsewhere :)

win2k server
5.00.2195
SP4

I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of my
clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the bare
essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two accessory
programs.

The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has automatically
jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I haven't kept a log of
when this has happened, but it seems to occur around every 40-45 days or so.
The date change then affects many scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files
due to date sensitive schedules.

Has anyone run into this before?

Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?

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"Kindler Chase - nCubed" <support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote in message
news:#J$ZS0YdEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know if I
> should post this elsewhere :)
>
> win2k server
> 5.00.2195
> SP4
>
> I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of my
> clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the bare
> essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two accessory
> programs.
>
> The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has automatically
> jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I haven't kept a log of
> when this has happened, but it seems to occur around every 40-45 days or
so.
> The date change then affects many scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files
> due to date sensitive schedules.
>
> Has anyone run into this before?
>
> Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?


You need to configure the Windows Time Service corectly.

Follow the instructions in the 'Tips & Tricks' section at
http://www.jsiinc.com

HTH,
Cameron:)
 
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Cameron Dorrough wrote:
> "Kindler Chase - nCubed" <support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote in message
> news:#J$ZS0YdEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know
>> if I should post this elsewhere :)
>>
>> win2k server
>> 5.00.2195
>> SP4
>>
>> I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of
>> my clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the
>> bare essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two
>> accessory programs.
>>
>> The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has
>> automatically jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I
>> haven't kept a log of when this has happened, but it seems to occur
>> around every 40-45 days or so. The date change then affects many
>> scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files due to date sensitive
>> schedules.
>>
>> Has anyone run into this before?
>>
>> Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
>
>
> You need to configure the Windows Time Service corectly.
>
> Follow the instructions in the 'Tips & Tricks' section at
> http://www.jsiinc.com
>
> HTH,
> Cameron:)

Hi Cameron,

Thank you for the reply.

After this happened the 2nd time, I started using an atomic clock utility
from http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ This will synch the clock once a day.
However, the problem is when this random date/time jump will happen, the
system does not resynch for a few hours. In the meantime, several files are
automatically deleted from the server based on the new date/time.

I'm not sure which tip to use from the link you posted. Was it this one:
http://www.jsiinc.com/subf/tip2600/rh2669.htm ?? And if I do use this tip,
how does this differ from using an atomic clock utility?

Do you know of anyway to help trace down this problem? To find the root of
the source?

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:57:00 -0600, "Kindler Chase - nCubed"
<support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote:

>I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know if I
>should post this elsewhere :)
>
>win2k server
>5.00.2195
>SP4
>
>I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of my
>clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the bare
>essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two accessory
>programs.
>
>The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has automatically
>jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I haven't kept a log of
>when this has happened, but it seems to occur around every 40-45 days or so.
>The date change then affects many scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files
>due to date sensitive schedules.
>
>Has anyone run into this before?
>
>Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?

Use http://www.jsiinc.com/subf/tip2600/rh2669.htm to sync with an NTP server.

It is possible that your CMOS batter is failing.



Jerold Schulman
Windows: General MVP
JSI, Inc.
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Jerold Schulman wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:57:00 -0600, "Kindler Chase - nCubed"
> <support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know
>> if I should post this elsewhere :)
>>
>> win2k server
>> 5.00.2195
>> SP4
>>
>> I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of
>> my clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the
>> bare essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two
>> accessory programs.
>>
>> The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has
>> automatically jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I
>> haven't kept a log of when this has happened, but it seems to occur
>> around every 40-45 days or so. The date change then affects many
>> scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files due to date sensitive
>> schedules.
>>
>> Has anyone run into this before?
>>
>> Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
>
> Use http://www.jsiinc.com/subf/tip2600/rh2669.htm to sync with an NTP
> server.
>
> It is possible that your CMOS batter is failing.

Hello Jerold,

In my reply to Cameron, I noted that I'm already using an atomic clock synch
utility and am not entirely sure what the difference would be with using the
tip in the link above.

How would I determine if my CMOS batter is failing; and along the same
lines, what is my CMOS batter?

Would you have any ideas on how to trouble shoot the problem and where
something like this may be logged?

Sorry if my questions/respones are a bit confusing, but this is quite new to
me.

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If you are not using the technique in tip 2669 in the 'Tips & Tricks' at
http://www.jsiinc.com, you have not established an authoritative time server for
your domain.

The CMOS battery keep the time in your computer BIOS when it is powered down.
A failing battery could cause the behavior your are experiencing.




On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:33:59 -0600, "Kindler Chase - nCubed"
<support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote:

>Jerold Schulman wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:57:00 -0600, "Kindler Chase - nCubed"
>> <support@DELETEMEncubed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure if I'm posting in the proper NG so please let me know
>>> if I should post this elsewhere :)
>>>
>>> win2k server
>>> 5.00.2195
>>> SP4
>>>
>>> I use my server as a dedicated hosting server for myself and some of
>>> my clients, so there are very few programs installed other than the
>>> bare essentials, i.e., IIS, MDaemon mail server, PERL and one or two
>>> accessory programs.
>>>
>>> The problem: 3 or 4 times now, the server's date/time has
>>> automatically jumped ahead by around 19-20 years in the future. I
>>> haven't kept a log of when this has happened, but it seems to occur
>>> around every 40-45 days or so. The date change then affects many
>>> scheduled tasks, i.e., deletion of files due to date sensitive
>>> schedules.
>>>
>>> Has anyone run into this before?
>>>
>>> Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
>>
>> Use http://www.jsiinc.com/subf/tip2600/rh2669.htm to sync with an NTP
>> server.
>>
>> It is possible that your CMOS batter is failing.
>
>Hello Jerold,
>
>In my reply to Cameron, I noted that I'm already using an atomic clock synch
>utility and am not entirely sure what the difference would be with using the
>tip in the link above.
>
>How would I determine if my CMOS batter is failing; and along the same
>lines, what is my CMOS batter?
>
>Would you have any ideas on how to trouble shoot the problem and where
>something like this may be logged?
>
>Sorry if my questions/respones are a bit confusing, but this is quite new to
>me.


Jerold Schulman
Windows: General MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
 
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Jerold Schulman wrote:
> If you are not using the technique in tip 2669 in the 'Tips & Tricks'
> at http://www.jsiinc.com, you have not established an authoritative
> time server for your domain.
>
> The CMOS battery keep the time in your computer BIOS when it is
> powered down.
> A failing battery could cause the behavior your are experiencing.

Thanks Jerold,

I'll add the tip and cross my fingers :) Thanks for your assistance.

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Jerold Schulman wrote:
> If you are not using the technique in tip 2669 in the 'Tips & Tricks'
> at http://www.jsiinc.com, you have not established an authoritative
> time server for your domain.
>
> The CMOS battery keep the time in your computer BIOS when it is
> powered down.
> A failing battery could cause the behavior your are experiencing.

A quick follow-up. After going through the registery per this tip:
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBE/tip2200/rh2273.htm

I found that I had already set up the authoritative time server with the AOL
true time:
nist1.aol-va.truetime.com
205.188.185.33
TrueTime, AOL facility, Virginia

Perhaps they may be the culprit? In any case, I did modify the system to
use the Naval time services instead of AOL.

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