stock 3500+ bottlenecking 7900gt?

[mesick]

Hi...um i just got a XFX 7900GT and was wondering if my stock 3500 @ 2.2 would be bottlenecking it....thanx in advance

 

[chocobocorey]

i think that is way too broad of a question.. it would completely depend on what game/app you are running. if the game could utlize a core 2 duo to the max, then youd have a bottleneck, but if the game only needs a athlon xp to work then no..

 

[mesick]

so then GRAW, FEAR, NFS:most wanted they would benefit from some OCing?
also possibly help my 3dmark scores? as in 05 and 06....

 

[JonathanDeane]

so then GRAW, FEAR, NFS:most wanted they would benefit from some OCing?
also possibly help my 3dmark scores? as in 05 and 06....

OCing can never hurt your games or scores... the only thing it can hurt is your comp (but usualy only if your not carefull) I dont think even at stock a 3500+ is bottle necking anything or at least it shouldnt be ? What RAM are you using ? and how much do you have... those games need 1GB of system ram I wouldnt try GRAW on 512MB's lol

 

[Eviltwin17]

i dont think your processor will bottleneck anything right now. If a game required dual core then it would but there arent many multithreaded games out yet.

 

[PX7800GT]

so then GRAW, FEAR, NFS:most wanted they would benefit from some OCing?
also possibly help my 3dmark scores? as in 05 and 06....

Your CPU is more than fine for those games 8) , you WONT see any different in F.E.A.R. if you OC your CPU , but in NFS : Most Wanted , you may see a little improvment if you can reach 2.5GHz or 2.6 GHz ...

 

[prozac26]

so then GRAW, FEAR, NFS:most wanted they would benefit from some OCing?
also possibly help my 3dmark scores? as in 05 and 06....

3DMark doesn't tell real-life gaming performance, so don't put anything on the socres.

As for gaming performance, little (if any) performance will change. Maybe you'll get 0.2fps more. Try overclocking your card first.

BTW, a stock 3500+ won't bottleneck anything.

How much RAM do you have?

 

[mesick]

Right now i have dual channel 2x512mb corsair value select. I was thinking abt getting another gig stick. From what I've heard that will help GRAW?

 

[prozac26]

Extra RAM will help everything.

 

[nategarst]

Yes more RAM will definitely help. Try and get a 2 GB dual channel kit, so you dont run into any compatability issues.

 

[nottheking]

Hi...um i just got a XFX 7900GT and was wondering if my stock 3500 @ 2.2 would be bottlenecking it....thanx in advance

Well, in most games, a single-core 3500+ is quite sufficient to support a GeForce 7800GTX, so ostensibly the same could be said for the very similar 7900GT.

Of course, performance will vary depending on the game and scene; a good illustration of this is Oblivion; out in the wilderness, it will stress your graphics card to the max, so even a mediocre CPU can not be afraid of bottlenecking a fairly powerful graphics card. On the flip side, in towns, the graphics card will be largely idle while the CPU has to crunch through dozens of NPCs and their AI, as well as the buildings, which are actually CPU-intensive.

I wouldn't worry about such a thing with your processor. If you'd like, overclock it; (just be careful) a few hundred extra MHz won't hurt your benchmark scores, as mentioned.

When it comes to RAM, 1GB is usually the most that will mean anything to your framerates, though it can't hurt to have 2GB, provided it's still in the same configuration type as your 1GB setup. (i.e., dual-channel)

 

[mesick]

Oh ok thanks....Well i guess I'll start searching newegg for a 2gig dual-channel kit then. Thanks to all who posted, and I put my 3500+ up to 3800+ speeds with only a 1-2C increase in idle temp.

 

[nottheking]

Oh ok thanks....Well i guess I'll start searching newegg for a 2gig dual-channel kit then. Thanks to all who posted, and I put my 3500+ up to 3800+ speeds with only a 1-2C increase in idle temp.

Congrats, and happy gaming!

 

[Voska]

If you are having problems with NFS:MW then there might be something else going on. on my system (See Specs Below) I can max that game out 1280x1024 all options on includeing FSAA put to max and have no lagging issues at all. the game runs crystal smooth. My proicessor is slower then yours and my video card isnt that much different from yours

 

[PX7800GT]

on my system (See Specs Below) I can max that game out 1280x1024 all options on includeing FSAA put to max and have no lagging issues at all. the game runs crystal smooth.

Impossible ... That`s 100% Impossible ... Because I Can`t Play @ 1280x1024 With Max ( The Frame rate will drop to 10FPS on these settings ) !!
I Hate liars ...

 

[Flopmouth_Fish]

on my system (See Specs Below) I can max that game out 1280x1024 all options on includeing FSAA put to max and have no lagging issues at all. the game runs crystal smooth.

Impossible ... That`s 100% Impossible ... Because I Can`t Play @ 1280x1024 With Max ( The Frame rate will drop to 10FPS on these settings ) !!
I Hate liars ...

Something must be wrong with your system, then; I get 10FPS at 1280x1024 max detail, and I use an X600. Your 7800GT has at least 3x the grahpics power of my POS video card. I run NFS:MW at 1280x1024 minimum detail with no AA, and I get 30-35 FPS (measured with FRAPS). Or I play at like 800x600 with FSAA to compensate for the fact that it's not running at native resolution.

 

[mesick]

yea thats weird cause with my set-up i run it at 1600x1200 high settings 0xaa 16xaf and get 40-70fps.... and i know a 7900gt isnt that far off a 7800gt....

 

[Flopmouth_Fish]

yea thats weird cause with my set-up i run it at 1600x1200 high settings 0xaa 16xaf and get 40-70fps.... and i know a 7900gt isnt that far off a 7800gt....

Why no AA?

 

[mesick]

game looks good enough without it and it drops below 30fps with 2xaa sometimes and im more of a performance over quality person. dont get me wrong i like it good lookin but ill go without some extras if it means better FPS....

 

[Voska]

on my system (See Specs Below) I can max that game out 1280x1024 all options on includeing FSAA put to max and have no lagging issues at all. the game runs crystal smooth.

Impossible ... That`s 100% Impossible ... Because I Can`t Play @ 1280x1024 With Max ( The Frame rate will drop to 10FPS on these settings ) !!
I Hate liars ...

Sorry bro I am not lieing. there has got to be something else that is casuing havok with your system. What all do you have going while playing the game? Oh and just to clearify my AA is 4x and my AF is 8x I saw no difference between 8x and 16 except a drop in FPS by about 12 so I decided to leave it at 8x

 

[PX7800GT]

thats weird cause with my set-up i run it at 1600x1200 high settings 0xaa 16xaf and get 40-70fps.... and i know a 7900gt isnt that far off a 7800gt....

Wow ... Listen , i play NFS:MW at 1024x768 2xAA 16xAF, max details but car reflection update is set to low & with these settings ,my frame rate is always above 50FPS ,but when i switch to 1600x1200 or 1280x1024 the frame rate will go under 30~25 ... , so you think there must be something wrong with my system ?my 3DMark 2005 score is 7600 & i Finished F.E.A.R. in 1024x768 Max (4xAA,16xAF) ...

Oh and just to clearify my AA is 4x and my AF is 8x

one more question is :
do you play in 1280x1024 +4xAA +8xAF with Car Reflection Update set to Max ?

 

[Voska]

Oh and just to clearify my AA is 4x and my AF is 8x

one more question is :
do you play in 1280x1024 +4xAA +8xAF with Car Reflection Update set to Max ? [/quote]

Yes I do.

 

[mesick]

Just to clarify, i do run at 2xaa it was 4xaa that causes too much slow down. So all high 2xaa 16xaf 1600x1200 40-70fps....and my car reflection is max....

 

[On_Point]

I had the same problem with my computer. I had a 3500+ and added a asus en7900gt card, games started stuttering. I switched my ram to Corsair 2gig (1gig sticks) thinking that my Kingston ram could not handle the faster graphics card, stiil had bottlenecking. I bought a x2-4200 dual core, that took care of problem. Now bf2-hl2-fear-quake4 run great with no problems.

Asus a8n-sli
Amd 4200 x2 2.4ghz
Corsair 2gig ram
wd 160gb 7200rpm
wd 250 gb 7200rpm
sony dvd rw
raidmax sagitta case
ultra connect 550w x2

 

[Voska]

There has only been one game that i play that I am noticeing a major problem. BF2 is that game. Before i got my 7800GS I had a FX5700LE had to play the game a minimal... but the 7800GS in there thinking that I will be able to play maxed... WRONG... was able to move settings to medium-low but with visual distance maxed. After doing some benchmarking, testings, and useing a few of the many computers I have at my work as test systems. (I love working in a computer store I get free rain over any system there for testing) I have come to the conclusion that there are some games that are GPU intense and require good video cards while not requireing the best CPU. But on the flip side Games like BF2, FEAR, do benifit from having powerful CPU's. (thought having a mid range video card is a must) and then there are games like Oblivion which if you want to play at best settings everything you will need the best hardware of everything.

On a side note I just ordered a new AGP MOBO and a AMD 4000+ San Diago S939 and will try BF2 again with those. I will post findings here once system is up.