While Cingular slept

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
> acting like it was a surprise.
>
> Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
> Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
> Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
> merger.
>
> Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
> stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.

And your point? Anything more than whining about your current provider, or
are you trying to sound like you know how a merger of this nature occurs?
We all know that not to be the case, as you have always inflated your
claims, bent the truth and spoke of things about which you have no
knowledge.

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In article <cm1pl1$bpn@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

> Jack Zwick wrote:
>
> > Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
> > acting like it was a surprise.
> >
> > Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
> > Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
> > Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
> > merger.
> >
> > Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
> > stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.
>
>
> Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
> laughable.

Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.

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Jack Zwick wrote:

> In article <cm1pl1$bpn@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Jack Zwick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
>>>acting like it was a surprise.
>>>
>>>Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
>>>Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
>>>Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
>>>merger.
>>>
>>>Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
>>>stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.
>>
>>
>>Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
>>laughable.
>
>
> Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.


I'm sorry you've missed my point, so allow me the opportunity to sharpen
it a bit... A drug store chain and a wireless communication company are
two entirely different kettles of fish on more points than you can count
on hands and feet. While the necessary changes inside each would be
significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
fold more complicated. Personally, I'd be absolutely amazed if the
dictintions between these two major players are gone in anything less
than a year, or even two. OTOH, you're welcome to continue with this
absurd comparative of yours while the rest of us continue to laugh hard
enough to piss in our pants.

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In article <TP7hd.2551$_3.33176@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <jzwick3-5F07D4.16275730102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Sat, 30 Oct
> 2004 21:27:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
> >acting like it was a surprise.
>
> Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
> etc.

Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.

>
> >Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
> >Nov. 10
>
> True. Which is very fast.

They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
you when in Holiday season??

>
> >and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
> >Christmas.
>
> What it actually says: "Our goal is to have it available to you by this
> holiday season." I expect that to be well before Christmas, perhaps even
> before Thanksgiving. Time will tell.
>
> >Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
> >merger.
>
> You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
> disruptive.

I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.

>
> >Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
> >stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.
>
> Apples and oranges.

Buyout and buyout. Quick changeover vs No changeover yet.

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In article <20041031074924.24246.00003208@mb-m02.aol.com>,
sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.) wrote:

> >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> >
>
> The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the signs.
> The only difference was a dry spell in our ability to buy beer from the store
> while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
>
> No other changes have taken place.
>
> I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
> there!


In Texas Eckerd stores are either:

closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
being closed out at BIG LOTS or

are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
signs.


===


AT&TWS stores are unchanged, still selling 1900 MHz only phones for
AT&TWS plans.

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Who cares if it takes days, weeks or months. It is no big deal. Get
over it.

Jack Zwick wrote:
> In article <TP7hd.2551$_3.33176@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>>In <jzwick3-5F07D4.16275730102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Sat, 30 Oct
>>2004 21:27:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
>>>acting like it was a surprise.
>>
>>Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
>>etc.
>
>
> Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.
>
>
>>>Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
>>>Nov. 10
>>
>>True. Which is very fast.
>
>
> They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
> you when in Holiday season??
>
>
>>>and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
>>>Christmas.
>>
>>What it actually says: "Our goal is to have it available to you by this
>>holiday season." I expect that to be well before Christmas, perhaps even
>>before Thanksgiving. Time will tell.
>>
>>
>>>Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
>>>merger.
>>
>>You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
>>disruptive.
>
>
> I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.
>
>
>>>Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
>>>stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.
>>
>>Apples and oranges.
>
>
> Buyout and buyout. Quick changeover vs No changeover yet.

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Jack Zwick wrote:


>>I'm sorry you've missed my point, so allow me the opportunity to sharpen
>>it a bit... A drug store chain and a wireless communication company are
>>two entirely different kettles of fish on more points than you can count
>>on hands and feet.
>
>
> It's exactly the same procedure to hang a Cingular sign on top of an
> AT&T Wireless sign as it is to hang a CVS sign over an Eckerd sign.

Oh, okay, I now think it was me missing your point. All you're
referring to is the external signage facing the street. Uh, yeah,
anybody can splurg some orange and blue paint on a renegade sheet from
the laundry pole. (I'd choose the pretty blue ones to save on paint)
However, I'm unsure what value this superficial change may mean in the
overall scheme of things, especially when one considers the major
internal differences of the two companies.



>>While the necessary changes inside each would be
>>significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
>>fold more complicated.
>
>
> Fine but on DAY 1, Cingular was unprepared. CVS wasn't.

One hardly needs to look very deep to know that excrement occurs,
despite best efforts - including your own. I don't think it's enough
reason to rub salt into places it doesn't belong. Clearly, YMMV.


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AT&T Wireless stores will be re-branded (at least on the inside) by November
15. The funny thing is that they haven't hired any outside help to make the
switch. Store employees will be doing all the work.

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In article <cm3r28$c5a@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

> John Navas wrote:
>
> [....]
>
> >
> > Apples and oranges.
> >
>
> Considering the colour changes evident on Robby Gordon's #31 Chevy in
> today's Atlanta NASCAR race, I think grapes and oranges would be more
> appropriate. Sorry to be such a nit. <giggle>

Making a 10 foot by 3 foot Canvas banner to place over an old company
name is simple. CVS has done it to cover over some Eckerd signs, Why
can't Cingular do it to cover over ATT Wireless signs?

Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS plans
with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular Network.

A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> According to Navas it simple to merge the 2 companies. When January comes
> and all the promised integration is still off in the distance, remind of
> how simple he said ti would be. ATTWS is not making the integration
> easier by adding hundreds of thousands more customers to the rolls of
> ATTWS plans.
>
>
> ATTWS stores are still selling 1900 MHz only phones on ATTWS plans. Big
> sign still in window: Nights start at 7 PM at ATT Wireless; referring to
> Free Nights and Weekends starting at 7 PM on ATTWS plans starting at
> $59.99, while its $7/month on similar Cingular plans.

I guess you've never heard of a company that sells under two different
brands- leading the sheltered life your posts indicate, I'm not surprised.

They openly stated that they would continue to sell under the ATTW brand for
a while. Why don't you post that? Is it because it totally throws your
whining complaints out the window?

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On 31 Oct 2004 12:49:24 GMT, sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.)
said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>>Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.

>The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the signs.

Same here on both of them.

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <20041031074924.24246.00003208@mb-m02.aol.com>,
> sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.) wrote:
>
> > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> > >
> >
> > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the
signs.
> > The only difference was a dry spell in our ability to buy beer from the
store
> > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
> >
> > No other changes have taken place.
> >
> > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
> > there!
>
>
> In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
>
> closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
> being closed out at BIG LOTS or
>
> are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
> signs.


You're a lying sack of dog piss too.

Here in San Antonio, TEXAS the Eckerd stores still haven't changed their
signage.

BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.

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SS

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"Jerome Zelinske" <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Who cares if it takes days, weeks or months. It is no big deal. Get
> over it.
>


But it's a conspiracy!!!

Can't you see that!!!

This so called "merger" is a complete farce. It's all being controlled by
the Illuminati and the Zionists as away to disrupt the grand Socialist
agenda set forth by the new Democrtaic party along with the Council on
Foreign Relations.

I would almost take bets that we can find a link to Haliburton and Cheney in
all of this as well. Oh and you know the Saudis must be profiting from this
so called "merger".

First they came for CDMA,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Verizon Wireless.

Then they came for IDen,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Nextel.

Then they came for PCS Vision,
and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't with Sprint .

Then they came for me and my GSM,
and by that time there was no one
left to save me.

It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!!

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SS

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In article <2un2nhF2d62m4U1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Shaolin Superfly" <shaolinsuperfly@yinyang.com> wrote:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-CDF856.20030731102004@text.usenetserver.com...
> > In article <bdfhd.82776$5v2.62274@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
> > "bainer" <nunya@bizness.com> wrote:
> >
> > > AT&T Wireless stores will be re-branded (at least on the inside) by
> November
> > > 15. The funny thing is that they haven't hired any outside help to make
> the
> > > switch. Store employees will be doing all the work.
> >
> > And then fired.
> >
>
> Actually, in most markets, retail employees are gauranteed their jobs for
> 700 days.
>
> Big part of the merger agreement.

Which markets, and where in the agreement?


>
> ------------
> SS

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In article <80rco0hgs6jlh80ut9h04tprh97vjb261o@4ax.com>,
Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:20:45 -0600, "Shaolin Superfly"
> <shaolinsuperfly@yinyang.com> wrote:
>
> >You're a lying sack of dog piss too.
>
> Now *there's* a vision! What kind of sacks do they use? I hope not
> burlap.

Are they TDMA or GSM sacks?

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <2un2jkF2d6ftoU1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "Shaolin Superfly" <shaolinsuperfly@yinyang.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:jzwick3-A367DC.10192231102004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <20041031074924.24246.00003208@mb-m02.aol.com>,
> > > sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all
the
> > signs.
> > > > The only difference was a dry spell in our ability to buy beer from
the
> > store
> > > > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
> > > >
> > > > No other changes have taken place.
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I
see
> > > > there!
> > >
> > >
> > > In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
> > >
> > > closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
> > > being closed out at BIG LOTS or
> > >
> > > are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
> > > signs.
> >
> >
> > You're a lying sack of dog piss too.
> >
> > Here in San Antonio, TEXAS the Eckerd stores still haven't changed their
> > signage.
> >
> > BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.
>
> And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
> had 6 months to make signs.

OMG! You're dumber than an acre of mud!

The signs are made! The store changeovers will occur on the 14th of this
month.

What part of this are you finding so hard to comprehend?

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SS

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In <jzwick3-D41000.09444801112004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 15:44:11 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <2un2jkF2d6ftoU1@uni-berlin.de>,
> "Shaolin Superfly" <shaolinsuperfly@yinyang.com> wrote:

>> BTW the signage on ATTW stores will be changing on the 14th after close.
>
>And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
>had 6 months to make signs.

And undoubtedly did so, since lacking magic they couldn't be made and
distributed in a few days. And again lacking magic, it takes a bit of time to
actually install them.

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In <jzwick3-D186DC.19102531102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Mon, 01 Nov
2004 01:10:39 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <cm3qsh$nvg@library1.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
>wrote:

>> Oh, okay, I now think it was me missing your point. All you're
>> referring to is the external signage facing the street. Uh, yeah,
>> anybody can splurg some orange and blue paint on a renegade sheet from
>> the laundry pole. (I'd choose the pretty blue ones to save on paint)
>> However, I'm unsure what value this superficial change may mean in the
>> overall scheme of things, especially when one considers the major
>> internal differences of the two companies.
>
>According to Navas it simple to merge the 2 companies. ...

Nope. What I actually said was:
"This integration actually looks to be easier than prior integrations."
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=BKtgd.2070%24_3.27499@typhoon.sonic.net>

>... ATTWS is not making the integration
>easier by adding hundreds of thousands more customers to the rolls of
>ATTWS plans.

Not making it any harder either.

>ATTWS stores are still selling 1900 MHz only phones on ATTWS plans.

AFAIK ATTWS is selling only multi-band GSM phones (in GSM 850 markets at
least).

>Big
>sign still in window: Nights start at 7 PM at ATT Wireless; referring to
>Free Nights and Weekends starting at 7 PM on ATTWS plans starting at
>$59.99, while its $7/month on similar Cingular plans.

No effect on integration. More consumer choice. Win-win.

Just more of your usual FUD.

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In <jzwick3-D8F6CB.10151431102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Sun, 31 Oct
2004 16:14:40 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <TP7hd.2551$_3.33176@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>> Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
>> etc.
>
>Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.

So what? Go by any Mercury dealer. Not a Ford logo anywhere.

It's clear that Cingular is moving with great speed to make changes,
particularly where it counts under-the-covers (underlying networks).

>> >Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
>> >Nov. 10
>>
>> True. Which is very fast.
>
>They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
>you when in Holiday season??

That's very fast. I can't think of any comparable merger (size and
complexity) that's moved even that fast, let alone faster.

>> You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
>> disruptive.
>
>I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.

On the surface perhaps, but it has changed if you look a bit deeper, just as
it has on the website.

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In <ru-dnf_VkOpgAhjcRVn-2Q@adelphia.com> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:31:39 -0700,
"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:

>"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:jzwick3-A1BAAC.19064431102004@news1.west.earthlink.net...

>> Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS plans
>> with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular Network.
>>
>> A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.
>
>Yes, folks- the Troll Lord has spoken. You must obey.

He's clutching at straws. Pathetic.

--
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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3xvhd.2822$_3.34073@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <ru-dnf_VkOpgAhjcRVn-2Q@adelphia.com> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004
19:31:39 -0700,
> > "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> > >"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > >news:jzwick3-A1BAAC.19064431102004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> >
> > >> Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS
plans
> > >> with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular Network.
> > >>
> > >> A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.
> > >
> > >Yes, folks- the Troll Lord has spoken. You must obey.
> >
> > He's clutching at straws. Pathetic.
>
> Spoken as the true shill of Cingular. so sad.

Hey, Phil- I'm no Cingular shill. You really are grasping at straws.

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> And calling someone names doesn't make Cingular any more prepared. They
> had 6 months to make signs.

And pointing out the names fails to address the bulk of the post- there are
still Eckards all over the country. Do we wait for you to explain that
(after vehemently stating that they were all changed), or will you now pull
your world famous disappearing act from this thread, entering only long
enough to point out breaches of etiquette?

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"steve" <reply@news.group> wrote in message
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> In article <RJ6dnYi2qeoJRxvcRVn-sg@adelphia.com>, Scott Stephenson
> <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> > "Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:jzwick3-CF4CFF.13404701112004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <3xvhd.2822$_3.34073@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> > > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> > > >
> > > > In <ru-dnf_VkOpgAhjcRVn-2Q@adelphia.com> on Sun, 31 Oct 2004
> > 19:31:39 -0700,
> > > > "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:jzwick3-A1BAAC.19064431102004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> > > >
> > > > >> Still today the ATT Wireless store was signing folks up to ATTWS
> > plans
> > > > >> with 1900 Mhz phones, that will be problematic on a Cingular
Network.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A simple phone call: STOP SELLING 1900 MHz phones.
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes, folks- the Troll Lord has spoken. You must obey.
> > > >
> > > > He's clutching at straws. Pathetic.
> > >
> > > Spoken as the true shill of Cingular. so sad.
> >
> > Hey, Phil- I'm no Cingular shill. You really are grasping at straws.
> >
> >
>
> derrr... Who's Phil?

Jack is Phil- world reknowned troll of the cellular groups. His M.O. is to
change ID's frequently to bolster his childish arguments (he was counted
using over 100 in a year's time) and his posts are usually rather outlandish
and rarely based in fact. Phil (Jack) used Sprint for years and trashed
them every chance he got. He left Sprint and ported to ATT, only to return
to Sprint within a couple of months. Details are sketchy, and he made up
stories about a Non-Disclosure Agreement to back up his silence. He then
left Sprint again, and now the Cingular world gets the privelege of his
rantings and lunatic ravings. If you want to see some of his early work,
google on the ID's DSL GURU and Philippe in the alt.sprint.pcs group for
starters.

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>All you're
>referring to is the external signage facing the street.

The difference was that Cingular was prevented by LAW from doing anything until
approval was given - MONDAY. They weren't un=prepared, they just were not
alowed to and Phillip knows this, he is just got something else with a couple
new user ID's to argue with himself about.


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John S.
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>In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
>
>closed empty shells, with all signage gone,

Well, I will have to look next time I am in the Dallas area. At home our Eckard
(East Texas) is still Eckard.

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John S.
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