The Inquirer: Intel quad-cores likely to use 1333FSB

[Action_Man]

I'm pretty bored so enjoy!

Link.

 

[Action_Man]

I love the inquirer. Best site ever anyways damn WoW servers are down for maintenance, damn crappy blizzard.

Anyways, it'd certainly be interesting to see what sort of difference it'd make.

 

[Action_Man]

Why? Theres a decent speed up with a 1333fsb on conroe, I'm sure the extra bandwidth would help.

 

[m25]

Pretty narrow bandwidth to feed 4 cores :roll: Can have a bad impact on performance.

 

[Action_Man]

:roll:

 

[m25]

Most probably... Accepting a minimum of 400MHz BW / Core of an EARLY P4, Core2 CPUs process much more data/clock, even more than K8s so a Quad Core2 sould have at least a 1600MHz channel to transfer the larger amount of data it processes.
Furthermore, a 1333FSB falls short in using all the Dual DDR2 800.

 

[Action_Man]

Merom only uses a 667 fsb and it clocks up to 2.33ghz.

 

[allhell]

Looks like commonsense to me but I would say as much as 2000mhz if their new core is so efficient,,,but SOBs at intel will sell this "1333" as the best ting since slced bread & many will think so.
They need to swallow their pride & go with a IMC.

 

[Action_Man]

You need to look up what CSI is (and no not the show)

 

[allhell]

For desktops that might not be much of a problem but for servers with multicore cpus & sacling, it will be a problem i think,,,AM SURE.

 

[Action_Man]

Sigh.

 

[m25]

Merom only uses a 667 fsb and it clocks up to 2.33ghz.

Does not mean that's enough. It's a laptop CPU and we're talking about desktop/server.

 

[Action_Man]

It'll be enough, theres only a ~2.5% increase for conroe going for 1066 to 1333.

 

[allhell]

If thats all its not worth it,,, it sucks.
There has to be more.
Enlighten us.

 

[m25]

Conroe is only dual Core: 1066/2 = 533 MHz/Core AT LEAST (667MHz/core for the 1333 version)
While for 4 cores you have 1333/4 = 333 MHz/Core, that's AthlonXP levels, half that of Conroe, it will definitely be pretty crippling.

 

[mjp1618]

Conroe is only dual Core: 1066/2 = 533 MHz/Core AT LEAST (667MHz/core for the 1333 version)
While for 4 cores you have 1333/4 = 333 MHz/Core, that's AthlonXP levels, half that of Conroe, it will definitely be pretty crippling.

Sounds like what they told about the Conroe too.

*OMG! Conroe still uses FSB! One FSB to feed 2 cores! TWO Cores! OMG!
*OMG! Conroe doesn't have an IMC! A processor in 2006 without an IMC! OMG!
*OMG! Conroe is made by Intel! By Intel! That stupid company still makes CPUs!

 

[guyinyourattic37]

Well they should. Woodcrest uses a 1333 right. And thats only a dual core.


PS: Whats with the cat?

 

[TheMaster]

I think they should have gone for the 1337 front side bus. It's just so much better from a marketing standpoint.


Sorry for going off topic here, but whats with the cat icon?

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

I think they should have gone for the 1337 front side bus. It's just so much better from a marketing standpoint.


Sorry for going off topic here, but whats with the cat icon?

:lol: :lol: :lol: 1337mhz FSB would do intel well

 

[jaguarskx]

I'm pretty bored so enjoy!

Link.

Sorry, but I won't believe until I read about it somewhere else.

 

[ethernalite]

Well they should. Woodcrest uses a 1333 right. And thats only a dual core.


PS: Whats with the cat?

"And that's only dual core" is a key point. Intel's quad cores are going to be (initially) two dies stuck together under a single IHS. This means there are two loads on the FSB, which makes higher FSB harder to achieve.

 

[m25]

Conroe is only dual Core: 1066/2 = 533 MHz/Core AT LEAST (667MHz/core for the 1333 version)
While for 4 cores you have 1333/4 = 333 MHz/Core, that's AthlonXP levels, half that of Conroe, it will definitely be pretty crippling.

Sounds like what they told about the Conroe too.

*OMG! Conroe still uses FSB! One FSB to feed 2 cores! TWO Cores! OMG!
*OMG! Conroe doesn't have an IMC! A processor in 2006 without an IMC! OMG!
*OMG! Conroe is made by Intel! By Intel! That stupid company still makes CPUs!

Personally I never thought FSB 1066 would be a problem for Conroe and of course it won't keep 4 cores from outperforming 2 of them but performance will not be fully unleashed if they use that FSB; nothing personal with Intel but they're just numbers; one of those cores will work with 333MHz FSB, one of Conroe's works with 667MHz.
However, I think sooner or later, Intel will "invent" some new technology, name it something like "upper traffic technology" and go ahead with it

 

[Action_Man]

If dual core P4's can survive on an 800fsb I'm sure quad conroe will be fine with 1333. Anyways coolaler or whatever his name is has a quad core and it was fine with only a 1066 fsb.

 

[cyborg_ninja-117]

If dual core P4's can survive on an 800fsb I'm sure quad conroe will be fine with 1333. Anyways coolaler or whatever his name is has a quad core and it was fine with only a 1066 fsb.

coolaler doesnt have kentsfield anymore... he sold it on yahoo auctions (ebay for taiwan) for 40k NT, thats around 1337USD =/ starting bid was 30 bucks USD... he ran fine w/ kentsfield at 1066fsb, no lag or anything, not like all the cores are used at once and stole bandwith but i doubt the FSB will be a problem anytime soon

 

[Action_Man]

He did run 4 instances of super pi at once.

thats around 1337USD

Hehe leet dollars.