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Burt wrote:
>"measekite" <measekite@juno.com> wrote in message
>news:GeFoe.72$Z44.30@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
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>>Burt wrote:
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>>>I don't know about your particular printer, but I use MIS inks to refill
>>>OEM cartridges and MIS empty cartridges for my Canon i960.
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>>I read a report from some poster in one of the news venues that while some
>>luck is had using MIS inks in a Canon i960 there have been clogging issues
>>with the IP Pixma series of printers. I do not know the accuracy of that
>>statement. It might have been just one persons experience just like this
>>writer is one person's experience.
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>>>Great color match and no problems so far with almost a year of use. A few
>>>posters on this newsgroup uses Formulabs inks from Alotofthings and have
>>>found this vendor to be very reliable and their inks excellent for his
>>>Canon printers.
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>>My experience with them was poor. I would not recommend that source.
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>The only "experience" Measekite had with Alotofthings was when he tried to
>give them some advice on how to run their business and he didn't like their
>response.
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You are a real shmuck with ears. Even Costco has a suggestion box and
want to hear from their customers so they can improve on what they are
doing. This is a professional approach.
>This statement would be like Measekite telling you he had a poor
>experience with a woman when the "experience" was that she told him to get
>lost when he tried to proposition her. The implication of his statement
>about his experience with Alotofthings is that he did business with them
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I never said I did business with alotofcrap.
>or
>used their product and found either their service or product poor. Neither
>is true. Simply an attempt to defame them or their product.
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The do not disclose on their website that I can see what they refill the
carts they are selling. If they do provide me with the link. They do
say they sell Sensinent inks in bulk. I have heard Sensinent is about
the only company that formulates decent ink but I have only hear that
from a few members of the AfterMarket Church; two of those members are
singled out by you below.
>>>Look up all the posts you can find from Ron Cohen for this information.
>>>Also check out Taliesyn's posts as he uses aftermarket inks successfully.
>>>I have read that they won't ship to Canada, but I don't know if they would
>>>ship to you in OZ.
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>>These are part of the religious congregation known as the AFTERMARKET
>>CLUB. About a dozen members who are hobbyists and tinkers that just love
>>the pain in the ass and mess of refilling carts. Of course they all have
>>a very high printload so due to the expense of the high quality OEM choice
>>it is cost justifiable to risk their printer and spend their time. If my
>>printload was that high I would have to investigate a 3rd party source. I
>>would try to find one not mentioned here.
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>>>You can email them to check it out. Two other vendors that have told me
>>>they use Formulabs inks in their prefilled carts are Wiredbeans (on ebay)
>>>and Weink (their CRU carts.)
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>>WeStink charges $2.00 less than you can get a Canon OEM cart. I do not
>>know about the Epson prices. They used to provide advice on this NG
>>without disclosing that there true motive was to make sales. I do not
>>like this practice.
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>Measekite has never done business with this firm either. He persists in
>paraphrasing their business name in a defamatory manner. He hasln't read
>their web site accurately, or he is deliberately lying. The cartridges I
>mentioned are the BCI-6 CRU carts which are listed on their website today at
>$2.29. I have never used these carts, but the vendor tells me that they
>are filled with Formulabs inks, the ink that Measekite claims he would use
>if they would put the mfgr name on the box and his print load was higher.
>Ron Cohen and Teliesyn have used Formulabs inks in their canon printers for
>several years with no problems.
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>>I do not know about WiredBeans. THIS LINK WILL PROVIDE THEIR RESELLER
>>RATING.
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>I did not recommend this firm. I only stated that they told me their carts
>had formulabs ink in them. The moderator of the Nifty stuff forum has
>purchased carts from them and is now testing them.
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>>http://www.resellerratings.com/seller5041.html
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>>THESE ARE THE COMPANIES THE AFTERMARKET CLUB RECOMMENDS. CAVEAT EMPTOR.
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>>ANOTHER PERSON WITH A PROBLEM
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>>hi-
>>my i960's nozzles keep getting clogged to the point that i have had to
>>replace the nozze unit once already, and now one of the nozzles on the
>>replacement head is clogged already. i just replaced it about 2 months
>>ago. does anyone know how to clean these nozzles so they will work
>>again? does using aftermarket off brand ink cause this? i hardly ever
>>use it, is that a cause?
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>This post is the "poster child" for Measekite in attempting to draw a causal
>relationship between non-OEM inks and head damage. It is somewhat confusing
>in that we don't know if the poster has used OEM or aftermaket inks, what
>brand he might have used, or whether his reference to "I hardly ever use it"
>means that he hardly uses the printer, in which case that is the prodominant
>cause of head clogs, or if he hardly uses aftermarket inks. This post was
>thoroughly discussed in a previous thread and no conclusion could be drawn
>because no additional information was provided.
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>>thanx alot
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>>> You can email them to verify that the carts you may want to buy are
>>>filled with Formulabs inks. Measekite, the person who responded to you,
>>>has never done business with these firms, nor has he used aftermarket
>>>inks. He mistrusts the vendors and their products and has an especial
>>>dislike for Alotofthings. Every time aftermarket inks are mentioned he
>>>responds with his concerns that the products are not manufactured by the
>>>firms selling them and they are relabeled so you don't know what is in
>>>them.
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>>That is true. You can have problems with ink bought at one vendor so you
>>buy from another vendor thinking you are makeing a change because the
>>Label is a different name. You than have the same problem. What really
>>happened is that you bought the same ink mfg and formulated from the same
>>place sold under different labels. This practice makes thing difficult to
>>track. Making things worse is you can make 2 purchases from the same
>>place a few months apart and get inks made by different sources all sold
>>under the same label with the quality varying a great deal. Or from batch
>>to batch the quality may be different.
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>>OEM's spend a lot of money to insure quality by placing many quality
>>control measures in the process. They spend millions developing and
>>protecting a their brand. That said I do believe they are over priced.
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>>>Unfortuantely, his responses are filled with invective about the
>>>companies and usually filled with obscenities,
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>>traded with the Church of the AfterMarket led by Pope Burtie.
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>>>both of which tend to make his point of view appear less than valid.
>>>Others on this NG have purchased from them for several years and found
>>>them to be reliable and their products good.
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>>THEN WHY DO SO MANY POSTER ON THIS NG WHO USE AFTERMARKET INKS HAVE SO
>>MANY PROBLEMS. MANY MORE PROBLEMS THAN OEM USERS.
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>>>Check out Neil Slade's web site at
>>>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html and check out the forum
>>>at
>>>http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ .
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>>NIFTY AND SLADES SITE HAVE SOME LINKAGE. SLADE DOES HAVE SOME INTERESTING
>>STUFF BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT ALL OF THESE PLACES CATER TO AFTERMARKET
>>HOBBYISTS.
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>>>Both are almost entirely about Canon printers, aftermarket inks, papers,
>>>and tips on maintaining your printer. You can sign on to the Nifty-stuff
>>>forum and ask about inks available for your printer in OZ as there may be
>>>people from OZ participating. You will also see what products have given
>>>people problems.
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>>And you will get the same answers as here because here you have Burt and
>>their you have fotofreek. The same thing using two names just like the
>>AfterMarket ink can be the same thing using multiple Labels.
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>>>"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolfkir@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:Vvqoe.23951$yG4.1175469@news20.bellglobal.com...
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>>>>wazzad wrote:
>>>>[...]
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>>>>>P.S. Be very careful of aftermarket non canon inks, as I had a lot of
>>>>>problems with true quality colour reproductions until I found a supplier
>>>>>here in Australia who sold very high quality bulk ink for me to refill
>>>>>my
>>>>>own cartridges.
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>>>>[...]
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>>>>Thanks for your comments. Nothing like the horse's mouth.
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>>>>Can you supply URL for that source of OEM quality inks?
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>>>>'Ta muchly.
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