Is it my Axim X50v or WM2003SE?

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I'm having trouble with most of the third party applications I've installed
on my axim x50v. These programs ran reasonably well on my E755 with wm2003.
In particular the problem software is NpopW, Inkspot, and Keeptrack. They
all install and run fine until the program is closed either by myself or the
o/s memory management. As long as they remain open or minimized they wotk
as expected but a true closing causes a save error. Npop will lose all the
messages, Inkspot will have a critical error in the database and prompt me
to delete them (and not function until I do), and worst of all Keeptrack will
without warning delete all of the financial entries and when I sync to the
desktop it deletes them there as well. One other clue I've discovered it that
if I use the included task switcher and close any of the 3rd party applications
including Resco explorer 2003 I get a program not responding error. Is anyone
with wm2003se not experiencing this? Is it my axim or the o/s?
Other than the vga screen I'm not that impressed with the axim. I haven't
noticed a performance increase over my E755 running at 400mhz with the axim
running at 624mhz. Perhaps this is due to the extra demand of se?
Should I return the axim?
Thanks in advance for your replies,

Dean

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In message <32irqnF3kg4q7U1@individual.net>, "Dean" <dean@nospam4me.usa> wrote:
> I'm having trouble with most of the third party applications I've installed
> on my axim x50v. These programs ran reasonably well on my E755 with wm2003.
> In particular the problem software is NpopW, Inkspot, and Keeptrack. They
> all install and run fine until the program is closed either by myself or
the
> o/s memory management. As long as they remain open or minimized they wotk
> as expected but a true closing causes a save error. Npop will lose all the
> messages, Inkspot will have a critical error in the database and prompt
me
> to delete them (and not function until I do), and worst of all Keeptrack
will
> without warning delete all of the financial entries and when I sync to the
> desktop it deletes them there as well. One other clue I've discovered it
that
> if I use the included task switcher and close any of the 3rd party
applications
> including Resco explorer 2003 I get a program not responding error. Is anyone
> with wm2003se not experiencing this? Is it my axim or the o/s?
> Other than the vga screen I'm not that impressed with the axim. I haven't
> noticed a performance increase over my E755 running at 400mhz with the axim
> running at 624mhz. Perhaps this is due to the extra demand of se?
> Should I return the axim?
> Thanks in advance for your replies,
>
> Dean
>

I just discovered that if I use magic button to close Inkspot it doesn't crash
even if I do a soft reset. Npopw however stll crashes.
Thanks again,

Dean

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"Dean" <dean@nospam4me.usa> wrote in message
news:32iucuF3n6ohsU1@individual.net...
| In message <cq1ejk$taq$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, "alan smith"
| <alan@REMOVEmral.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
| >
| > "Dean" <dean@nospam4me.usa> wrote in message
| > news:32irqnF3kg4q7U1@individual.net...
| > | I'm having trouble with most of the third party applications I've
| > installed
| > | on my axim x50v. These programs ran reasonably well on my E755
with
| > wm2003.
| > | In particular the problem software is NpopW, Inkspot, and
Keeptrack.
| > They
| > | all install and run fine until the program is closed either by
myself
| > or the
| > | o/s memory management. As long as they remain open or minimized
they
| > wotk
| > | as expected but a true closing causes a save error. Npop will
lose
| > all the
| > | messages, Inkspot will have a critical error in the database and
| > prompt me
| > | to delete them (and not function until I do), and worst of all
| > Keeptrack will
| > | without warning delete all of the financial entries and when I
sync
| > to the
| > | desktop it deletes them there as well. One other clue I've
discovered
| > it that
| > | if I use the included task switcher and close any of the 3rd
party
| > applications
| > | including Resco explorer 2003 I get a program not responding
error.
| > Is anyone
| > | with wm2003se not experiencing this? Is it my axim or the o/s?
| > | Other than the vga screen I'm not that impressed with the axim.
I
| > haven't
| > | noticed a performance increase over my E755 running at 400mhz
with
| > the axim
| > | running at 624mhz. Perhaps this is due to the extra demand of se?
| > | Should I return the axim?
| > | Thanks in advance for your replies,
| > |
| > | Dean
| > |
| > |
| >
| > Did you look at the websites for the programs you are having
problems
| > with?
| >
| > If there is an issue it may be listed, with possible
| > solutions/upgrades. Then they will have Technical Support that you
can
| > ask. Don't you think that is the way to get the official line for
them,
| > most publishers do support registered users apart from any FAQ's
and
| > helpfiles they publish. If you've paid use the support you have
paid
| > for.
|
| These are legally licensed software purchased by me or a trial
version. Some
| have been removed from my E755 (in fact the E755 sits in a hard reset
coma
| state which I will sell with no 3rd party software if I decide to
keep the
| axim). You seem to be infering otherwise. Support paths can be slow
and biased.
| I asked for readers opinion in this ng so I have a general census
before I
| contact support. Anyone have any constructive thoughts preferably
with hands
| on experience with the axim x50v.
|
| Tia,
| Dean
|
|
|

I am not inferring that your software isn't registered. I am saying you
should use the support, it is part of the package. People won't use the
support if they aren't registered, it could have been a reason to
ignore the help these companies have set up.
You are assuming it may take a long time for a response from the
company- apart from being useful information for others *if* this is
the case it is a very unfair pre-judgement to apply. They may be fast,
they may have your answers. You are not using the most likely place to
have the information- who else has more information about these
programs than the publishers/writers themselves?
Even *if* the response is slow the sooner you ask (or look) for your
answers the sooner you will get them.

If you really want to find answers to your questions don't ignore the
experts- the people who write/publish the programs. You could end up
moaning about these people when you haven't really any justification.
If you have a problem you don't need a consensus before you ask for
help. It doesn't matter if it is only you that has an issue, you have
an issue. Ask for help if you've paid for it.

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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:36:40 -0000, "alan smith"
<alan@REMOVEmral.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>If you really want to find answers to your questions don't ignore the
>experts- the people who write/publish the programs. You could end up
>moaning about these people when you haven't really any justification.
>If you have a problem you don't need a consensus before you ask for
>help. It doesn't matter if it is only you that has an issue, you have
>an issue. Ask for help if you've paid for it.
>
And I've found when looking for experts it's better to ask
here than the people who created the program. Often the people
here in this usenet newsgroup know more about the program/the device
than the people who made the program. But then that might be why
Microsoft made them into MVPs.

(BH, etc.)




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In message <egv8s0tnfhdqbed0f1n5n6lj9okopfj06c@4ax.com>, Amy Gray
<JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:36:40 -0000, "alan smith"
> <alan@REMOVEmral.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >If you really want to find answers to your questions don't ignore the
> >experts- the people who write/publish the programs. You could end up
> >moaning about these people when you haven't really any justification.

Did I moan? Did I say I wasn't simultaneously seeking other avenues?
In fact this device was new to me on Friday. The problems were discovered
on Saturday. Most support is M-F 9-5. On Monday I received a reply from
Iliumsoft (Keeptrack) that led me to discover a newer version had been released
which seems to have corrected the issue I was having with that app.

> >If you have a problem you don't need a consensus before you ask for
> >help.
Perhaps, but a little research doesn't hurt.
It doesn't matter if it is only you that has an issue, you have an issue.
Agreed
Ask for help if you've paid for it.

> And I've found when looking for experts it's better to ask
> here than the people who created the program. Often the people
> here in this usenet newsgroup know more about the program/the device
> than the people who made the program. But then that might be why
> Microsoft made them into MVPs.
>
> (BH, etc.)
Couldn't have said it better!
Dean

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In message <1104507901.736486.309280@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Stiletto"
<StilettoXX@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an X50v also. I see the same problems that you do. Things
> crash and the memory won't release when you close apps.
>
> Hopefully, I can find out how to use this thing. My X30 worked way
> better.
>
> Donna

Donna,
Thanks for the reply. Was your X30 wm2003SE? I'm still unsure which is to
blame.

Thanks again,

Dean

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In message <1105069355.103573.203470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Stiletto"
<StilettoXX@gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, it was the same OS. The X50v has more programs crash. When I
> try to close a program it usually crashes (program is not responding).
> Donna

Exactly what I needed to know. Thank You! I will now hound Dell's customer
sevice and maybe help expedite a rom patch.

FWIW... oddly, most of my program closing problems went away when I installed
trancreative's magic button software to close my programs. But, the real weird
part is I've uninstalled magic button and it's registry entries but most
programs continue to close properly. You might want to try that. The only
2 that don't are npopw and pocket workout.


Dean