I just bought a new PCI-E, socket 478 motherboard in order to be able to buy a new graphics card.
So do u think i can install it myself, having much knowledge abt part but not abt this big of a job, and having only a little ammount of experience (installing a graphics card in the past and memory)?
Thnx.
A socket 478 mobo with PCIe? I didn't know that such thing existed.
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To be or not to be? That is the question.
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this doesn't bode well on his initial question already...
hasnt anyone installed a motherboard before?
Well post the the MB info like the name maybe were you bought it from etc. Also post your orignal Spec of the PC that you are moving from.
Note: before telling you how it would be best to make sure you bought the correct one that why I'm asking. To install a MB you have to disconnect every thing and I mean every thing since every piece of computer equipment is attached to it. Not hard but it will take a little bit of time. You could even have space issues if you have a "brand" name PC like dell or HP the MB may not fix correctly.
| Quote : So do u think i can install it myself, having much knowledge abt part but not abt this big of a job, and having only a little ammount of experience (installing a graphics card in the past and memory)? |
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I'm sure there are a number of peeps here in the foums that have installed any number of mobo's...me personally, I've been known to slap a few into a box here and there...whether or not you can do it is more a question that you have to answer yourself...a mobo only fits into the case one way, once you put it into place and have the mounting holes lined up, it's just a matter of screwing it into place...most importantly, have a steady hand, have patience, take your time, and learn yourself thru the process.
A quick google search of "how to install motherboard" will return a page full of on line guides like this one, you should give it a read.
Good luck!
Id love to "learn through the process" but i have a 2,000$+ system, not a 486.
My friend, who knows a lot abt this stuff says i cant do it myself, because u need screw it in, connect different thing wich i have no idea at, and overall be really percise. I want to learn, but i cant learn by trial and error.
So is it really all that hard to setup a motherboard? I mean its just like connecting all the different appliances into it and inserting new material - everything has a single special place and all u have to do is put it in, dosent seem like rocket science. Plus, it costs like 30$ or more to have it done in a lab, wich i have to drive to.
If you have the knowledge of what part is what, and where it roughly belongs in your case, you can handle it. I learned by using a DIY guide on the net that had some pictures to help explain and basically learned from there. Like others said, just read a quick guide and move from there. If you spent $2000 on a computer and are too lazy to read a five page guide to keep your investment safe from static shock and hardware malfunction, I have trouble understanding.
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Yes, everything has it's place and it's not rocket science. But then again, I dunno, I'm prolly not the right person to ask, I have always built my own machines, I've never bought a pre-built. I was nervous as hell after building my 1st machine, but only because is was new, but after I plugged everything in, flipped the switch, and the fans spun, the drive whirred, the machine posted, and it searched for a boot device, I was done and hooked on building my own forever!
If you've got a system now, crack open the case and have a look inside, just by observing what's inside you can learn alot about what is connected to where and how. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined, can use a screw driver, have some common sense, patience, and are willing to learn, then who cares what your friend says. Whether you choose to listen to them or try it out on your own is your decision. If they were any kind of friend, they'd give you a hand. If not, seriously, there are scads of on-line guides that walk you through the process of how to build your own machine, it's crazy how many there are, read a few of them and you will see the similarities of the process.
But hey, for $30 to have someone do it for you might be worth the drive.
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So ask him to show you how to do it.
track, your friend is talking rubbish.
i bult this comp i am using. it was my first one and tbh as long as you take care especially with the ports at the back you can install a mobo easily enough. your mobo will also have a manual which explains how to connect everything and where everything goes.
i always say if you can wire up a plug and get a vcr and tv working you can build a comp. it is very easy with today's plug and play. of course i have been upgrading comps for a few years so i had already got a bit of experience and i had an old comp die on me and took that apart so i had an idea how to put one together.
just make sure to get a elctro static wrist strap to prevent frying your new mobo and you'll be fine. remember patience is a virtue.
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electro-what?
im worried hes gonna break pins when he moves he processor.
sorry i mean an anti static wirst strap. basically if there is a build up of static on yourself and you touch a compnent you could fry the electronics and render one of you purchase useless. also even if they work they could have damage that over the months and years could lessen performance.
basically they are straps which fit on your wrsit and you attach it to your case so as to maintain a electrical balance. if you use wone it acts as a safe guard.
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Go here and read through this step by step.
http://sysbuild.corsairmemory.com/ [...] id=2&sid=1
| Quote : Id love to "learn through the process" but i have a 2,000$+ system, not a 486.
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Good God kid, building a computer is not like building an engine.
If you can assemble a LEGOS toy and know how to use a screw driver, you can assemble a computer.
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http://www.albatron.com.tw/english [...] pro_id=160
there you go. be careful with ur parts and dont spill shit on them. the rest is simple. you might need a new powersupply. look into it if ur pc is old.
Hey, Legos are MUCH more complicated!
You don't need a anti-static wrist strap unless you live in a really dry region. Just plug the ps in before starting, keep the power switch on the back off, and touch it before starting, and don't more around alot.
I've built thousands of PC's and never damaged a part by doing that one simple thing. Now I do use one on the network equipment I touch but that's cause it costs over 100k usually
| Quote : sorry i mean an anti static wirst strap. basically if there is a build up of static on yourself and you touch a compnent you could fry the electronics and render one of you purchase useless. also even if they work they could have damage that over the months and years could lessen performance.
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And where can i get these?
| Quote : I just bought a new PCI-E, socket 478 motherboard in order to be able to buy a new graphics card.
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http://www.albatron.com.tw/english [...] pro_id=160
there you go. be careful with ur parts and dont spill **** on them. the rest is simple. you might need a new powersupply. look into it if ur pc is old.
I dont need a motherboard.
After i install everything into the case, im going to have to boot it up right?
I still have my copy of Windows XP Pro, but i was told it would no longer work.. also, im going to need to change the "BIOS" whatever those are, and install drivers, and oh man! this is too complicated. Even if i get over the physical part of putting them all in, i still have to install things using Windows.
you can get anti static wrist straps from most comp shop/hardware stores.
i am not sure about the windows thing. you may ahve to have it activated over the phone but i would try it anyway.
unless there are any problems you won't have to update your bios(basic input output system). if you need help how to do it just ask. with some mobo's it can be done through windows.
also just relax installing drivers and windows is very simple.
If you haven't run your xp product number through MS's clearing house in the last 6 months, it will register unless it's an oem from the like of HP, IBM, Dell, etc.
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what?
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I got a better idea than going out and buying static wrist straps.
Use a bag! graphics cards, hard drivers, sound cards, even the motherboards come with anti static bags, just wrap it round your hand, its bound to work. Thats what I did.
| Quote : sorry i mean an anti static wirst strap. basically if there is a build up of static on yourself and you touch a compnent you could fry the electronics and render one of you purchase useless. also even if they work they could have damage that over the months and years could lessen performance.
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I got a better idea than going out and buying static wrist straps.
Use a bag! graphics cards, hard drivers, sound cards, even the motherboards come with anti static bags, just wrap it round your hand, its bound to work. Thats what I did.
To confuse matters even more, as long as you ground yourself out to the case, psu, or another discharge point before handling any electronic parts, you don't even need a wrist strap or an anti-static bag.
ye i know you can just touch something grounded but seeing as how cautious and unsure the guys was i felt it aws better to be safe than sorry. there is also the phschological reassurance of wearing one. mayube it is just me but for my new build i used one as i didn't wan't to make a mistake.
for all other upgrades before hand i had just touched the case with both hands before starting.
Ditto. My compy in my sig was my first homebuild. The only other computer I've owned was a notebook...so I didn't really get to play with any of the hardware inside.
Did someone build this computer for you or did you buy it from Dell or somebody? That will make the biggest difference in whether you can replace the motherboard or not.
Yeh, i got it built for me. I didnt know much abt it back then, wich was 2 years ago.
OK, then yes, you can replace the motherboard. The case is most likely ATX, as is the motherboard and power supply. If you don't feel comfortable replacing it, ask a friend to help you, or even have him do it while you watch.
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I dont have a friend who can do that.
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Is this "lab" of yours going to re-install Windows and mobo drivers for you too? If not, you'll be stuck doing it anyhow. Swapping mobo's usually requires a re-install of Windows (your best option too). One of the benefits of building your own is that you will know exactly what software is residing on your system.
Like others have said, if you can read a manual and have some patience, then you can build your own computer.
If you don't think you can, don't.
Remember, whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right.
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Is this "lab" of yours going to re-install Windows and mobo drivers for you too? If not, you'll be stuck doing it anyhow. Swapping mobo's usually requires a re-install of Windows (your best option too). One of the benefits of building your own is that you will know exactly what software is residing on your system.
Like others have said, if you can read a manual and have some patience, then you can build your own computer.
Of course they will, dont u know what a computer lab is?
Right now i have another problem, i lost the xp cd. ive moved twice since i bought it 3 years ago and, well..
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Sorry, no computer labs which you speak of around here, other than college computer labs, unless our terminology is different. Only thing we got around here is Best Buy, Circuit City, and such, and I wouldn't trust them to sell me a computer let alone install software.
Losing the CD isn't good. You can always borrow a friend's assuming you've written your CD-key down somewhere.
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Sorry, no computer labs which you speak of around here, other than college computer labs, unless our terminology is different. Only thing we got around here is Best Buy, Circuit City, and such, and I wouldn't trust them to sell me a computer let alone install software.
Losing the CD isn't good. You can always borrow a friend's assuming you've written your CD-key down somewhere.
Yeh, i used to live in the US. I do remmember there not being any computer labs. Here there are hundreds of little computer stores, other then huge corporations and most of them can also fix and install different stuff. Where do u take ur computer when its broke?
CD key.. yes of course, i tatooed it to my arm for safe keeping.
Well, if my computer is broke I fix it myself. I built it so I know it better than most. There are a few local computer shops, but they charge $$$.
As for the cd-key, putting it in a safe place just seems an obvious thing to do. I always make a backup or two of the original cd and write the cd key down. You never know when your original cd will get scratched rendering it useless or even misplace your cd.
What what? That was a simple enough statement.
To the OP, if you are associated with a school or company with a volume license, they will usually give you a license to use for "work" or "school", ask IT about it. I only use volume licenses for my stuff, that way I can't loose my key since you can look it up online at MS
What do u mean "associated" and who will give me the key?
I cant just go to MS's site and ask for a key, heck id have better luck trying to find it on some illegel site.
If you are a student/faculty at a college for example, or if you work for a company that requires you to use a computer, ask them if they have a license for working at home for example. If you aren't associated like this then you won't be able to get a volume license, it's just an option.
If you work at a non-profit you can get a license for something like 5 bucks.
Or you can ask if your school is a member of the MSDNAA. It's Microsoft's program that gives free or cheap copies of software to students at certain schools. See if yours is listed.
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That's a great suggestion and actually how I got my copy of 64bit WinXP, can't beat the price either, at student discount rate of $6!!!!!! No lie...
OMG!
Just forget the comment about the anti static stuff and the one about having the PSU plugged in; Just use google and some common sense.
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That's a great suggestion and actually how I got my copy of 64bit WinXP, can't beat the price either, at student discount rate of $6!!!!!! No lie...
I got my version of XP Pro for £2 which turns into about $3.40. No lie...
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That's a great suggestion and actually how I got my copy of 64bit WinXP, can't beat the price either, at student discount rate of $6!!!!!! No lie...
I got my version of XP Pro for £2 which turns into about $3.40. No lie...
Kind of hard to believe u when u have a Core 2 Duo CPU, while the rest of us are normal ppl..
| Quote : Or you can ask if your school is a member of the MSDNAA. It's Microsoft's program that gives free or cheap copies of software to students at certain schools. See if yours is listed. |
That's a great suggestion and actually how I got my copy of 64bit WinXP, can't beat the price either, at student discount rate of $6!!!!!! No lie...
I got my version of XP Pro for £2 which turns into about $3.40. No lie...
Kind of hard to believe u when u have a Core 2 Duo CPU, while the rest of us are normal ppl..
Oh but I bought the OEM of MCE
Dont diss MCE because I like to watch TV as well as game, so its perfect, anyways I dont see any difference between this and pro except more stuff. (~£70-£80)
No domain support, unless you "modify" it.
XP Pro $8, it's not the upgrade like the title says, it's a full oem cd.
In order to install the motherboard im going to have to opent he PSU case and tamper around in there, could that be dangerous?
And how do i know what cables im supposed to buy?
do not open the psu whatever you do. those things are lethal if you mess around with them.
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