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hi:

the hard drive on my dektop just quit working (not sure how, found that out after i came back from vacation). obviously i didn't turn the sytem off.

what likely causes this? the motherboard seems to be fine once i plugged in a new hard drive and it boots up from new drive (i assume lighting would kill both).

how could i provent this happen again? i am thinking 1) buy a nice surge protector (assuming it was lighting). 2) turn it off when i am not around (not so nice idea if i want to use it as unix server). or it just a bad drive (it is damn new, only less than two years old and i didn't use that system that mcuh since i have working laptop).

thanks

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try plugging it back in and see if it works. Sometimes its just a wire issue, wire not in all hte way, etc. Could just be a fluke. Also, Surge protector would help protect the whole pc not just harddrives and is really recommended.

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You can check the warranty on the drive too - it may still be under the manufacturer's warranty. Also you can run diagnostic tools that are manufacturer specific or you can get a bunch of them w/ the ultimate boot cd.

I'd turn it off for sure if I went on vacation... and get a surge protector if you don't have one already! Unless you want to see your capacitors' guts all over your dead computer.

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thnaks. what i have now is really cheazy (surge protector) and i am gonna get something nice.

i guess that motherboard is lot of tougher than the hard drives in terms of withsatnding the surge (i assume it was surge, otherwise i can't see how it went bad)

Reply to ipfreak
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I doubt it was a surge or your power supply unit would have made for some good 4th of july fireworks. Normally, when that goes, everything in the pc will recieve 100volts. So i don't think thats waht killed it.

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I agree w/ weilin. I doubt it was a power surge or lightining. if it was, you're entire system would be fried.

be more specific on what u mean by "it doesn't work" and we can further help you.

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hmmm, first i noticed the system just hung right after bios checking; biso could see the drive but wd utility could not format that drive. when the system reboots, i can hear the clicks from the drive...

i gave it up, too busy to deal with it (really not worthy of time). just bought a seagate and hopefully it will be good. not that much of money but the losss of information was annoying

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oh the infamous hd click. Ya the drive is a goner, if there's anything worth saving on that drive, now would be the time to take it to geek squad or something to have the data recovered. The clicking is caused by the hd constantly resetting the platters becuase there's a section of it that the system can't read. Causes of that are, but not limited to, failing drive motor, expanding/contracting/cracked drive read/write head from heat or extreme cold, or screwed up gear. Either way, its time for a new drive. As i see it, since you have ur pc on the whole time, it would most likely be becuase of excessive heat that might have fractured the drive's read/write head.

Reply to weilin

You'd think that everything in your house would be fried after it getting hit by lightning. A surge protector isn't going to magically save your equipment from that much potential (voltage). I figure that if lightning can travel all the way from clouds to the ground that it could probably travel accross that little gap that a surge protector provides for insulation (assuming the proper conditions are met).

Aren't surge protectors only meant for spikes in power generation (due to loss of load and the frequency jumping up)?

Echoplex

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yes it may be your hdd you mentioned it was 2 years old

Reply to sirheck
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two years old? well in terms of usage, it probably only.. say about two three months? most of time i use my laptop and besides, i wasn't at home for almost a year.

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oh the infamous hd click. Ya the drive is a goner, if there's anything worth saving on that drive, now would be the time to take it to geek squad or something to have the data recovered. The clicking is caused by the hd constantly resetting the platters becuase there's a section of it that the system can't read. Causes of that are, but not limited to, failing drive motor, expanding/contracting/cracked drive read/write head from heat or extreme cold, or screwed up gear. Either way, its time for a new drive. As i see it, since you have ur pc on the whole time, it would most likely be becuase of excessive heat that might have fractured the drive's read/write head.



Just FYI, Geek Squad does not have the tools, parts, nor the necessary facilities to recover data from a drive that has experienced a hardware failure. Nor do they have the technical know-how.

For that kind of data recovery an outfit like Ontrack Data Recovery among others can get the data back.

Peace

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hi:

what likely causes this? the motherboard seems to be fine once i plugged in a new hard drive and it boots up from new drive (i assume lighting would kill both).

how could i provent this happen again? i am thinking 1) buy a nice surge protector (assuming it was lighting). 2) turn it off when i am not around (not so nice idea if i want to use it as unix server). or it just a bad drive (it is damn new, only less than two years old and i didn't use that system that mcuh since i have working laptop).

thanks



There is very little if anything that you can do to prevent a hard drive from failing.

A hard drive is a *mechanical* device. In some ways, a very sophisticated one. Being mechanical in nature, it is subject to wear and tear. Some drives will experience accelerated wear due to minute deviations from the specs during manufacturing.

One of the few things you can do is to enable "S.M.A.R.T" in your BIOS. This causes your BIOS to interrogate the drives present about their health. After a fairly quick self test, each drive will report its status to the BIOS. If something is wrong on any drive (and presuming the drives can perform a S.M.A.R.T self test) then you'll get a message during POST letting you know that a given drive is about to fail. The typical message is "Drive x failure is imminent. Backup your data immediately". Heed the warning, drives that issue it usually don't last much longer.

You can purchase SCSI drives. SCSI drives are tested much more rigorously than IDE drives. Less of them reach the market having minute problems that grow into big problems.

Backup your data often no matter what kind of drive you have.

HTH.

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