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E6300 and E6400 Difference?

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August 1, 2006 11:07:43 PM

Is there any difference beside the clock speed.

I mean if i were to overclock my E6300 to the same clock speed as the E6400 would everything be the same?

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August 1, 2006 11:16:45 PM

if everything is same cept clock speed how can performance be different if i overclock it to same clock speed
August 2, 2006 12:50:35 AM

i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?
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August 2, 2006 1:16:24 AM

You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.
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August 2, 2006 1:17:44 AM

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i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?


Technically, yes. But when you are overclocking you are increasing the fequency of the CPU instead of the multiplier whichs causes the CPU to work harder, so to speak.

In the end, the difference shouldn't be very big, but in my opinion (non professional) the E6400 at stock speed of 2.13GHz will be slightly cooler than the E6300 overclocked to 2.13GHz.
August 2, 2006 1:18:25 AM

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You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.


how would u save a few dimes when e6600 is much more expensive. the extra 2mb cache isnt' very noticeable in gaming
August 2, 2006 9:22:42 AM

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You would be wise to save a few dimes and get the E6600. Reason is the 6300 and 6400 have 2mb of cache and performance reflects that. The E6600 is only 300 dollars and a much faster chip, that is if you can get yours hands on any of them. Demand is high. the 6600 will at least keep you happy for a much longer time. And the 6600 is faster then even the faster AMD chips right now. So it's a real deal.


how would u save a few dimes when e6600 is much more expensive. the extra 2mb cache isnt' very noticeable in gaming
Little difference. On average, about 3.5% difference, and ranging from 0-10%, which you can't even notice.
Is the diffrence much greater when using slower memory?
August 2, 2006 9:31:32 AM

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Is there any difference beside the clock speed.

I mean if i were to overclock my E6300 to the same clock speed as the E6400 would everything be the same?
In fact the E6300 will be as good or better than a stock E6400, as the FSB will be @ 304 vs 266 for the E6400. That's not much difference, but it should slightly outperform the E6400. It might run 1-2C hotter, but i doubt it, and stability shouldn't be an issue... assuming your RAM can run @ 608 MHz, and you have a decent motherboard.
August 2, 2006 11:14:57 AM

one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.
August 2, 2006 11:21:14 AM

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one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
August 2, 2006 11:28:09 AM

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one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speed
August 2, 2006 11:30:13 AM

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one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.
August 2, 2006 11:33:47 AM

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one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuff
August 2, 2006 11:39:19 AM

Quote:
one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuffPass... :wink:


I'm just teasing ya, i saw all the fails you gave out yesterday. :) 
August 2, 2006 11:49:53 AM

Quote:
one has higher multiplier= easier to OC.

Fail..


He didn't ask about potential maximum overclock. He asked if he overclocked the E6300 to E6400 speeds, would they perform on par.
=/ only i say fail.

if they ran at same clockspeed, different FSB then E6300 would be faster since its FSB will be higher. but if you can sumhow unlock the multi on E6300 and bump it up to X8 then yes the E6300 will be a tad hotter then E6400 but they will pretty much the same speedFail....

That's pretty much what i said.

=/ give a guy who just woke up a break, thought he meant potential OC and stuffPass... :wink:


I'm just teasing ya, i saw all the fails you gave out yesterday. :) 

:p  it all started on another forum
August 2, 2006 12:10:57 PM

But the Question Comes to be Which Series the 2Mb or the 4Mb L2 Cache Conroe Processers are hitting the 4Ghz line? From what i've seen the 4mb L2 are being taken to WorldRecord Benchmarks Rather than the Budget Conroes. I don't know what which one will Be better but i bet my 2 cents that getting the E6600 in a overclockers perspective will be the better choise(overclocking potential)
August 2, 2006 12:15:21 PM

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But the Question Comes to be Which Series the 2Mb or the 4Mb L2 Cache Conroe Processers are hitting the 4Ghz line? From what i've seen the 4mb L2 are being taken to WorldRecord Benchmarks Rather than the Budget Conroes. I don't know what which one will Be better but i bet my 2 cents that getting the E6600 in a overclockers perspective will be the better choise(overclocking potential)
He didn't even mention the 6600, or 4 GHz. He was just comparing the E6300 and E6400....Nothing more!
August 2, 2006 12:37:17 PM

Oh, I was answering some other Question just being pitched around. Yea' I'd suspect It's better For The Overclockers To buy the bottom of the Bin and just Overclock to the higher Levels. for the 2Mb line the 6300 O/C'd to 6400ish levels maybe a bit more if your getting cool enough tempratures. The Money you can save from overclocking can get you a better Cooling element or complete cooling system. For him the E6300 is best O/C'd rather than stock E6400, If he desides he wants a bigger cache he can get the E6600
August 2, 2006 6:16:13 PM

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i c so , in terms of stability when overclocked, the two chips should be around same temperature, etc if they are clocked at the same speed?


Technically, yes. But when you are overclocking you are increasing the fequency of the CPU instead of the multiplier whichs causes the CPU to work harder, so to speak.

In the end, the difference shouldn't be very big, but in my opinion (non professional) the E6400 at stock speed of 2.13GHz will be slightly cooler than the E6300 overclocked to 2.13GHz.

Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup. :D 
August 2, 2006 6:19:21 PM

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Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup. :D 


I don't agree with you.

As a general rule, inside of the same architecture: The faster clock speeds go the higher temps will go.

High temps won't slow your computer down (except SpeedStep, etc), it will make it unstable and crash.
August 2, 2006 6:41:50 PM

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Meaning that the cooler you are the faster you run. Performance is on the side of cooler things. If you get a e6300 and don't overclock it you should have a nice setup. :D 


I don't agree with you.

As a general rule, inside of the same architecture: The faster clock speeds go the higher temps will go.

High temps won't slow your computer down (except SpeedStep, etc), it will make it unstable and crash.

Thank you for that!

Then there should be no reason why gRapz wouldn't want to get a e6400 and overclock it to the max for hishest performance in the dollar range.
August 2, 2006 7:09:09 PM

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Thank you for that!

Then there should be no reason why gRapz wouldn't want to get a e6400 and overclock it to the max for hishest performance in the dollar range.


I agree with you about overclocking. Overclock those bad boys so that they're still stable yet providing even more performance. Core 2 Duo users are going to want to carefully choose their mobo if overclocking is their intention.
August 2, 2006 7:15:16 PM

Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.
August 2, 2006 7:20:17 PM

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Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.


In frequency, but the lack of the 4MB L2 cache will hurt performance in some applications.
August 2, 2006 7:32:11 PM

Actually, the really interesting questions is whether 6300 and 6400 have different dies, or are the same die as 4MB models with half of cache faulty/disabled.

I could imagine that if these are with faulty caches, 6400 should overclock quite well..
August 2, 2006 8:37:58 PM

Would you be able to say that P5B, being a new board and all and giving it the benefit of the doubt and the adequate timing of the BIOS update, which indeed is expected to fix most of Overclocking issues will easily become the new 'Budged mother board' for the e6300/e6400 'Budget processor' ?
August 2, 2006 9:18:50 PM

965 DQ3 Gigabyte is good too

the P5B from asus, i read has problems with raid
August 2, 2006 9:34:08 PM

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Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.


In frequency, but the lack of the 4MB L2 cache will hurt performance in some applications.I wonder if the higher FSB needed to reach 6600-6700 speeds will help negate the performance penalty of not having the 4MB cache? I would think it should offset it to some extent.
August 3, 2006 10:12:53 PM

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Both are very good overclocking cpu and could match the E6600 and E6700.


In frequency, but the lack of the 4MB L2 cache will hurt performance in some applications.I wonder if the higher FSB needed to reach 6600-6700 speeds will help negate the performance penalty of not having the 4MB cache? I would think it should offset it to some extent.

Although I can't find it now, I have read some reviews with both E6300 and E6400 being overclocked to over the frequency of the E6600 and both have managed to beat the E6600 in some gaming benchmarks. But due to it's 2Mb L2 cache the E6300 and E6400 steps out at most applications like encoding and etc. But for gamers and overclockers the Core 2 lower end cpu can be overclocked to even match or exceed the performance of the E6600, FX-60, FX-62 and X2 5000.
August 3, 2006 10:23:11 PM

heh , you see, my point is not to overclock it beyond the x6800, but rather just overclock it to e6400's clock speeds or at the most e6600's. so i get the feeling that my money is worth the buck, i mean why spend more money on a e6400 when u can get a e6300 which is exactly the sam except lower clock speeds when u dont' plan to overclock it too much
August 4, 2006 3:24:36 AM

yeah, the E6300 for me is by far the most-bang-for-the-buck cpu there is. :wink:
August 4, 2006 6:27:23 PM

/mini thread hijack

E6300 Vs E6400

Potential vs price

im planning on an upgrade, is it worth spending the extra (im trying to keep costs as low as possible and i know its not that bigger difference in price) on the E6400, or will i be fine with the E6300? (i cant afford the E6600)

im planning to overclock it atleast a little and slap a zalman cooler on there
mainly for gaming/media/work
August 4, 2006 8:17:04 PM

The E6300 is plenty enough for gaming and other software applications. Even at stock settings, the E6300 performs exceptionally well like that of X2 4400 or 940. But with overclocking you can achieve further performance especially in gaming applications. The Core 2 are very cool running cpu compare to it's predecessors and can be easily overclock to over 20 percent and without any risk of overheating. The stock cooler can even cool the Core 2 at overclocking and with an after-market heatsink fan like the Zalman 9500 it would be running fast and cool. You can't go wrong with the E6300 for it's performance-to-cost ratio and not to mention it's overclocking potential would easily put this chip to the top in terms of value. Go for it.
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