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August 2, 2006 3:04:16 PM

which card is better ? and which one will do a good job till next year ?

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August 2, 2006 3:05:48 PM

7600GT.
August 2, 2006 8:49:42 PM

I agree with prozac26...7600GT
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August 2, 2006 8:49:56 PM

7600GT
August 3, 2006 9:43:11 AM

7600gt is quite alot better
the only other card around the same as the 7600gt is the x1800gto
August 3, 2006 11:26:01 AM

definately 7600gt. in mid-range ati sux..
August 3, 2006 11:45:35 AM

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definately 7600gt. in mid-range ati sux..


Wrong.

The x1800GTO is a fantastic card in the midrange, when the pipleines have been unlocked and it has been overclocked it can reach similar speeds to taht of the x1800xt!!!
August 3, 2006 11:56:48 AM

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definately 7600gt. in mid-range ati sux..


Wrong.

The x1800GTO is a fantastic card in the midrange, when the pipleines have been unlocked and it has been overclocked it can reach similar speeds to taht of the x1800xt!!!

The GTO is good when modded, but the 7600GT is a lot cheaper here in the US. BTW, where are those 3DMark benchies?
August 3, 2006 11:58:57 AM

I am with the last guy. The X1800GTO may be the best bang-for-your-buck today.
August 3, 2006 12:02:52 PM

Well, they're broken :-\. I can't seem to upload them i keep getting a friggin' error message. I can give you the scores i get tho and i can screenie if you want?

3DMark06 7013 Points!

How do i upload pictures onto this forum?
August 3, 2006 12:07:54 PM

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I am with the last guy. The X1800GTO may be the best bang-for-your-buck today.


Over here in the UK they're actually sometimes cheaper than 7600gts!
August 3, 2006 12:08:41 PM

7600GT
August 3, 2006 12:17:55 PM

If you can afford it, the X1800GTO, but if not the 7600GT. Look for Gigabyte's, because that has a silent heatpipe cooler. Tom's did a review of it a little while ago, actually. Also has benchmarks comparing the 7600GT and X1600XT, and the GeForce kicked the poop out of the Radeon.
August 3, 2006 1:18:38 PM

Why get the X1800GTO when you can get an X1900GT for nearly the same price?
August 3, 2006 1:19:46 PM

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Why get the X1800GTO when you can get an X1900GT for nearly the same price?


Cos the x1900GT is slower, and the x1800GTO is amazing when unlocked and overclocked .
August 3, 2006 1:35:39 PM

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Cos the x1900GT is slower, and the x1800GTO is amazing when unlocked and overclocked .


How the hell you figure?

You people seem to forget, its only very specific X1800GTO's (and quite uncommon I might add) that carry a special mofset sink that are able to unlock. I evaluate every card differently, however this isnt one I"m willing to bet $$ on the unlock. So if your able to get that X1900GT, then that should be your goal.
August 3, 2006 1:53:00 PM

Yeah...too bad the X1900GT is $50 more than the X1800GTO, and $100 more than the 7600GT.

7300GT < X1600XT < 7600GT < X1800GTO < X1800XT < X1900GT < 7900GT < X1900XT < 7900GTX < X1900XTX < 7950GX2

This is only an average, keep that in mind.
August 3, 2006 2:14:07 PM

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Yeah...too bad the X1900GT is $5 more than the X1800GTO, and $38 more than the 7600GT.

7300GT < X1600XT < 7600GT < X1800GTO <X1800XL< X1900GT < 7900GT < X1800XT < X1900XT < 7900GTX < X1900XTX < 7950GX2

This is only an average, keep that in mind.

*FIXED
August 3, 2006 2:18:43 PM

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Yeah...too bad the X1900GT is $5 more than the X1800GTO, and $38 more than the 7600GT.

7300GT < X1600XT < 7600GT < X1800GTO <X1800XL< X1900GT < 7900GT < X1800XT < X1900XT < 7900GTX < X1900XTX < 7950GX2

This is only an average, keep that in mind.

*FIXED

Who says the X1900XTX is better then the 7900 GTX?
August 3, 2006 2:30:28 PM

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Yeah...too bad the X1900GT is $5 more than the X1800GTO, and $38 more than the 7600GT.

7300GT < X1600XT < 7600GT < X1800GTO <X1800XL< X1900GT < 7900GT < X1800XT < X1900XT < 7900GTX < X1900XTX < 7950GX2

This is only an average, keep that in mind.

*FIXED

Who says the X1900XTX is better then the 7900 GTX?
It's an opinion.
a b U Graphics card
August 3, 2006 2:39:31 PM

Yeah but that 'FIX' makes much more sense than what was there earlier.

I mean regardless of your preferences putting the X1800XT as < than the X1900GT? 8O
August 3, 2006 2:41:54 PM

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Yeah but that 'FIX' makes much more sense than what was there earlier.

I mean regardless of your preferences putting the X1800XT as < than the X1900GT? 8O

Well, for the most part, from what I've seen, X1900GT ~= X1800XT~= 7900GT. Maybe I'm way off, but I haven't seen any benches where the X1900GT outright beats both of those cards. It does, however, destroy any card in the $180 price range.
August 3, 2006 4:28:43 PM

Forgive me almighty TGGA but I'm going to side with Gary_Busey. The FiringSquad review shows that the X1900GT is almost, if not as, as good as a 7900GT. Yes the X1800XT beats it too but FiringSquad's review did use a 512MB version, which last time I checked was more money than the X1900GT. I'm sure a 256MB version of an X1800XT (much cheaper than the 512MB) will still perform on par if not better than an X1900GT, but I cannot find either a 7900GT or an X1800XT for $185. True, it is a mail-in rebate but if you follow the rebate steps to the letter and keep tabs on it you can successfully get your money back.

$185.00 for a nearly 7900GT class card is an excellent deal for a card that should be able to hold one over until the new DX10 cards are available.
August 3, 2006 6:29:43 PM

I got the impression that the X1900 GT was defnitely an underperformer compared to the X1800 XT and 7900 GT.

I wouldn't bother looking at benches for under 1280x1024 with AA, because all of those cards can handle it in almost every game out there, except maybe Oblivion.

The Firingsquad review doesn't even use AA much... and even then the X1900 GT is dead last in almost every bench at 1280x or higher, isn't it? And that's by

At decent resolutions, the X1900 GT's slow memory haunts it, and the 7900 GT / X1800 XT push ahead... from what I've seen anyway.

But yeah, if we're talking X1800 GTOs, the X1900 GT will beat it any day of the week.
Even if it's unlocked to 16 pipes, GTO memory is so slow they almost never overclock to XT speeds. I doubt an unlocked GTO is all that much better than an X1900 GT, if it is at all.
August 3, 2006 7:53:17 PM

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I got the impression that the X1900 GT was defnitely an underperformer compared to the X1800 XT and 7900 GT.

I'm not quite debating that issue. But would you say you could get "90% of the performance" :wink: of a 7900GT (possibly an X1800XT) for nearly 80% of the cost? For $185.00 (After Rebate) I'm just not sure you're going to find a better card for the money.

Normally I would say get an X1800XT or 7900GT over the X1900GT, but due to this current event the X1900GT could be the better card for the money. Especially this close to DX10 cards. You get a decent mid-range card that should be enough to hold out until the DX10 stuff arrives.

Sure it's a redheaded step-child, but I know one or two of those guys and they're kinda cool sometimes.
August 3, 2006 7:57:57 PM

I didn't even think it was that much slower. I read some benches where in one or two games, it would beat a 7900GT. I'll have to look for those, but for some reason, I had the impression that it was relatively the same performance as an X1800XT or a 7900GT.
August 3, 2006 8:01:14 PM

Here's one of them:

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=550&p=0

It seems that the X1900GT performs best at high resolutions.

Here's a head to head with the 7900GT. They trade blows.

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/GTREVIEW/

This one shows it beating the 7900GT in a couple, but being real slow in FEAR. It's also interesting how it performs more closely to the 7900GT and the X1800XT as the resolution gets higher.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article36.html
August 3, 2006 8:33:10 PM

I don't know why I'm getting a different interpretation from you, but in all those reviews plus firingsquad's, I get the definite impression that the X1900 GT is a marked step down from the 7900 GT and especially the X1800 XT.

As the resolution gets higher, all three probably become CPU bottlenecked a bit in new titles, but there's still a definite 10fps advantage alot of the time over the X1900 GT.

The only review that is the exception to that rule seems to be driverheaven's, where the X1900 GT seems to beat the 7900 GT most of the time... and I'm more inclined to think their single review is flawed a bit rather than think everyone else's is.


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For $185.00 (After Rebate) I'm just not sure you're going to find a better card for the money.


I totally agree with you there, like I said, "if we're talking X1800 GTOs, the X1900 GT will beat it any day of the week."

I'd take an X1800 XT over either of them, anyway. But if you can wait for those rebates that take forever to get to you, the ~$180 X1900 GT is still an awesome deal.
August 3, 2006 8:44:20 PM

I geuss we're just taking different benches into account. I tend not to pay any attention to Doom 3 or Quake 4 benches. I usually look at Far Cry, HL, F.E.A.R and Oblivion if they have it. If I was at home, this would be a good time to make a spreadsheet.
a b U Graphics card
August 3, 2006 8:45:50 PM

Yeah I don't get what people are arguing about (other than price which is different from place to place), peerformance pretty much follows the revision.

While I know that 512MB =/= 256MB, the memory size isn't the limitation in most situations where the XT wins, AND no one picked a memory amount when I commented (which was strictly about performance), Xbit's results are pretty clear;

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/powercol...

As Paul showed, I thin it was him, in an article he linked to, the difference between the 256 and 512 is minimal and the performance gains vis-a-vis the GTs remain regardless of memory size.
August 3, 2006 8:50:32 PM

7900GT is faster, but even in that review, if you look at the highest resolutions, the X1900GT is faster in Far Cry and the two HL benches. It does get mopped by 10 FPS or so in 3 others, but the rest are only <5 FPS slower than the 7900GT. That, IMO, seems pretty good for a $180 card.
August 3, 2006 9:41:11 PM

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That, IMO, seems pretty good for a $180 card.


I think we'd all agree with that statement, Gary. I don't think anyone here is saying there's a better deal at $180.
August 3, 2006 9:43:13 PM

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That, IMO, seems pretty good for a $180 card.


I think we'd all agree with that statement, Gary. I don't think anyone here is saying there's a better deal at $180.

What about an x2 3800+?

:- P
a b U Graphics card
August 3, 2006 9:52:45 PM

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7900GT is faster, but even in that review, if you look at the highest resolutions, the X1900GT is faster in Far Cry and the two HL benches.


Now you're focusing on GT vs GT, I was strictly talking about XT vs X1900GT.

But the X1900GT is a nice card, but I'm only commenting on the previous ranking and still once again nothing to do with price since that's different from region to region (ie the GT isn't a $180 card where I live).
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