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August 4, 2006 3:50:26 AM

Its time for me to upgrade my videocard.
As of now I have a crappy $50 card
I use PCI Express x16.
I would like to go with the 7900GT Serires but there are alot of different brands, which do you guys think is the best?
I know some are factory overclocked, are they less stable?

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August 4, 2006 4:43:57 AM

I would say for around $300, the 1800XT or the 7900GT would be your best choices. Personally, my favorite nVidia brands are eVGA and sometimes BFG. The factory overclocked cards are tested for stability so you can be sure they will be fine out of the box but you have to be careful when overclocking them even more.
August 4, 2006 3:12:20 PM

If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.
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August 4, 2006 3:18:30 PM

Quote:
If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.

That's wrong. The X1900XT is much more expensive and performs better. An X1800XT is the 7900GT's competitor, costing the same and performing the same.
August 4, 2006 4:55:55 PM

Quote:
If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.

That's wrong. The X1900XT is much more expensive and performs better. An X1800XT is the 7900GT's competitor, costing the same and performing the same.

Please dont tell me im wrong, i know what i say.

The Gainward 7900 GT with 512MB costs abt the same as the X1900XT.
The 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX's clock, becoming actually better then the X1900XT, or at least equal, understand?
August 4, 2006 4:57:16 PM

Quote:
Its time for me to upgrade my videocard.
As of now I have a crappy $50 card
I use PCI Express x16.
I would like to go with the 7900GT Serires but there are alot of different brands, which do you guys think is the best?
I know some are factory overclocked, are they less stable?


Personally, I wouldn't spend $300 on a vid card right now. I guess if you have the money, why not. I would buy a mid-range card, and wait for the DX10 cards to be released later this year. Just my personal opinion.
August 4, 2006 4:58:35 PM

Quote:
If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.

That's wrong. The X1900XT is much more expensive and performs better. An X1800XT is the 7900GT's competitor, costing the same and performing the same.

Please dont tell me im wrong, i know what i say.

The Gainward 7900 GT with 512MB costs abt the same as the X1900XT.
The 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX's clock, becoming actually better then the X1900XT, or at least equal, understand?

Im going with Gary here. The x1900xt is defintely a lot better than a 7900GT. Course the x1900xt is a little bit more pricy, but overall better in the longrun.
August 4, 2006 5:02:45 PM

Quote:
If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.

That's wrong. The X1900XT is much more expensive and performs better. An X1800XT is the 7900GT's competitor, costing the same and performing the same.

Please dont tell me im wrong, i know what i say.

The Gainward 7900 GT with 512MB costs abt the same as the X1900XT.
The 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX's clock, becoming actually better then the X1900XT, or at least equal, understand?
You never said Gainward. Plus, 512 doesn't make much of a difference from 256 in FPS in games. Since that's the case, you can get a 7900GT for $230 or so. I think the cheapest X1900XT is $330 or so. And why pay for a 7900GT that cost the same as an X1900XT, and only performs as good as one when you overclock it, when you could buy the X1900XT and overclock it and it'd be much better than the 7900GT overclocked? Understand?
August 4, 2006 5:03:03 PM

So I should either:

Wait to upgrade.
And for the other cards which brand should I go with?
August 4, 2006 5:05:50 PM

Quote:
So I should either:

Wait to upgrade.
And for the other cards which brand should I go with?

Go with either a 7900GT or an X1800XT, both perform about and cost about the same. Evga, Sapphire, ATI, XFX, Powercolor, HIS, Asus are all pretty good brands. You can pretty much go to NewEgg.com and pick the cheapest X1800XT or 7900GT and you'll be ok.
August 4, 2006 5:34:38 PM

What's the rest of your system?

What games do you play?

What resolution do you play your games at?
August 4, 2006 5:36:32 PM

Quote:
So I should either:

Wait to upgrade.
And for the other cards which brand should I go with?


If you're willing to wait, I'd hold out for a DX10 card. In regards to your question about overclocked cards, I bought a 7900 GT KO (factory overclocked), and my card was toast. eVGA sent me a replacement (along with a free copy of HL2: Lost Coast!). Aside from this one RMA, I've been happy with eVGA, both with their cards and their service.
August 4, 2006 5:45:10 PM

Quote:
If u want a high end card u need to buy the 7900 GT (512Mb version) or the X1900XT wich both cost the same.
If u overclock the 7900 GT, they will also perform the same.

That's wrong. The X1900XT is much more expensive and performs better. An X1800XT is the 7900GT's competitor, costing the same and performing the same.

Please dont tell me im wrong, i know what i say.

The Gainward 7900 GT with 512MB costs abt the same as the X1900XT.
The 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX's clock, becoming actually better then the X1900XT, or at least equal, understand?
You never said Gainward. Plus, 512 doesn't make much of a difference from 256 in FPS in games. Since that's the case, you can get a 7900GT for $230 or so. I think the cheapest X1900XT is $330 or so. And why pay for a 7900GT that cost the same as an X1900XT, and only performs as good as one when you overclock it, when you could buy the X1900XT and overclock it and it'd be much better than the 7900GT overclocked? Understand?

I said 512Mb, they cost more.
Your right abt the performance, makes me think abt getting it and selling it in a year..
You can overclock the 7900 GT over 250Mhz, u can only over the X1900XT at 25Mhz, thats why.
August 4, 2006 5:53:11 PM

I don't know where you're getting that from but you can get ~100mhz gains on both the core and memory of an x1900xt. It's about the same with a 7900GT, but you can get more like ~150mhz gain on the memory.
August 4, 2006 10:53:23 PM

What's the rest of your system?
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
2x1GB Corsair RAM
ASUS A8N Preminum Mobo


What games do you play?
CSS
Battlefeild 2
Call of Duty
Alot of war games and FPS.

What resolution do you play your games at?
I would like to play as big as possible.

I would like to pick it out of these, unless you can provide a direct link.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCat...
August 5, 2006 2:39:05 PM

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?Compar...

These three are the ones I'm now considering, I know MSi is usally pretty reliable, but the other two look promising too.


I'd go with MSI, being a user of 2 of their high performance cards(7900GTX) Plus you get that nice rebate on top of it.
August 5, 2006 6:46:23 PM

I would go with the least expensive X1800XT or 7900GT you can find this close to DX10 cards coming out. You've already got a decent system so either of those cards will compliment it nicely. You may want to save even more money and just get a 7600GT to hold you over until the next generations cards arrive but I wouldn't go any lower than that.
August 5, 2006 9:31:34 PM

Is there a substantial difference between the 7600GT and the 7900GT? Is it even worth the $130 price difference? I do planon going with the 8th geforce generation after the price goes down after its release, maybe a year from now or so?
August 6, 2006 8:19:43 AM

If you're going to wait a year, then I would go for either the 7900GT or the X1800XT.

If you planned on getting a next gen card when they come out then I would go with a 7600GT. IIRC, rumor has it that DX10 capable cards are supposed to be out before the end of the year. If I am wrong then I'm sure someone will come along and correct me.
August 6, 2006 12:10:34 PM

Nothings guaranteed: Spend what you want on your GPU to get the most performance from your dollar is what I'm saying.

That aside: I won't put personal preference into this.

@ Track and Gary

Dont dare to compare two GPU's on a theoretical level. The possibility of a 7900GT making GTX speeds is no where near an absolute. I think we'd all be suprised how many dont make it that far without added cooling solutions or voltage increases. That, in turn making it possible to do some permanent damage to your GPU.

@ Gary. 100mhz gain on an X1900XT? Yes, but what exactly are you going to have to do to achieve this overclock? Many GPU's wont make 100mhz over core, heck many might not even make 50mhz on the standard cooling solution. So everybody needs to try to aim their comparisons on the stock performance levels.
August 7, 2006 12:23:38 PM

No one should even think about overclocking using a stock cooler. It's just not smart. So, it'd be considerably less if they used a stock cooler, yes, but when I think overclock, I think aftermarket cooling solution.
August 7, 2006 2:13:29 PM

you can get a x1900xt on new egg for 289.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

the 7900gt can be OC'd to GTX speeds, but the x1900xt can be OC'd to x1900xtx speeds.

here's benchmarks to prove the x1900xt beats the 7900gt 512.

http://www.technic3d.com/?site=article&action=article&a...

plus the 7900gt's track record isn't very good if you go with the 256.
only the new evga models have low RMA status.
the rest have bad memory and voltage. do a google search on artifacting 7900gt's.

the x1800xt 512 are being phased out fast. i think newegg has one and it's over 400.00, so i wouldn't go that route.

my first choice would be the x1900xt, i own the card and it smokes..
second would be the new model evga 7900gt, due to the life time warrenty, and 90 day step up program.
3rd the x1800xt.. reasons it's 3rd, is because it's only 50 bucks cheaper than the x1900xt. it don't have the warrenty nor the 90 stepup that the evga cards have...

good luck..
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