Which is the better app? ATI TRAY TOOLS or CCC?

Cast your vote.

ATI TOOLS

lol, this should be funny.

i thought about starting a thread like this and considering you got your ass handed to you in that other thread i didn't think you'd be that stupid.

come on then, explain why it is better, this should be a laugh.

I use both CCC and ATI Tray Tools, but the Tray Tools are quicker in most cases.

i am sure many people on here might not like me or don't even know me but i know you will find taking on the ape on his home turf as it were will find you no friends. also anyone who knows sorjner will kow he is a nice knowledgable person.

also, i know that you cluthc at straws mentioning the resources

just so everyone knows, this guiys claims the great grape ape is a noob and he thinks he knows more than the ape.

this boy is a troll and not a very good one. but i do like riling him since he speaks rubbish.

And just for the recored I dont give a damn about arguing against GreapApe or his friend Sojiner either. Im not gonna be their little bitch like you and bow down too them just because they have been here longer

They might give good advice in other areas but in this topic just like you they are dead wrong. Hell yeah I will argue it too, Im not a little bitch like you with no facts to back anything up.

See this is the kinda **** I am talking about with you right here. You want me to give facts which I do! and then you do nothing but try to beat around the topic at hand and draw the attention away from you and to other board members because your too much of a pussy to defend yourself.

I want too ask where the hell are your facts? you have givin no facts not once ounce of facts as too why you think I am so wrong.

Come on strangestranger! tell me why I am wrong with the above Post! Give me your facts instead of trying to draw in other board members to fight your own fight for you! GAWD you are pathetic!!!

So you're the great one, huh? Seems like you're good at giving opinions without facts, that is reviews, of any kind to back up your claims. And you resort to name calling and such when you are stymied. You need to do some growing up and getting your head on straight before you take on the likes of the GreatGrapeApe and others. By the way, flaming everybody only proves how little you know and are.

Oh wow what do we have here? another one of StrangeStrangers blind and dumb friends

Its real fukin funny how you say I have given no facts when the fact is I am the only one posting in this topic that has given any facts at ALL!

And I see your another bitch whipped little grapeape cocksucker

You guys are truely fukin pathetic when you are to afraid to speak against grapeape and sojiner even when they are wrong and you fukin know it


And Strangestranger I am still waiting on your facts To tell me why I am wrong about my above post regarding ATI TRAY TOOLS

You fukin clowns that keep telling me I have provided no facts are obviously fukin blind as a bat because I am the only one that actually has given any facts at all.

Here ya go poor blind man since I guess you obviously did not take out the time to read what I posted before you went running off at the mouth.

ATI TRAY TOOLS does not slow your system down like CCC.
ATI TRAY TOOLS does not use the resources that CCC uses.
ATI TRAY TOOLS offers better and easier Game profile Settings.
ATI TRAY TOOLS has more options and allows DX3D to be used with Triple Buffering.

The list goes on and on............ anyone that can not see the benefit of using ATI TRAY TOOLS over CCC is either completely in denial and stupid or a complete nublet like yourself who does not know any better.



THE ABOVE WOULD BE SOMETHING CALLED FACTS I FIGURED I BETTER POINT IT OUT TOO YOU SINCE YOUR SO BLIND.

IF ANYONE WOULD LOVE TOO POST SOME FACTS PROVING ME WRONG ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES OF ATI TRAY TOOLS VS CCC THEN PLEASE DO SO.

so your saying i should use another program becasue it sues slightly less resources even though i won't see a real world benefit i doing so. have you ever felt like checking into a loony bin by any chance.

one i know that the CCC does not use tons of resources and does not slow comps down. i have tried ati tray tools on another comp and decided to stick with the offical ATI drivers and interface.

oh and i do not overclock. i have not felt the need.

on previous comps i have tried things like radlinker and ati tools but in the end felt i don;t need them.

the increase you see is most likely all in your head. i am sure you convince yourself other wise. but how do you test it. i know that 3dmark will never give you the same score 2 times in a row and i know oblivion never genreatesa the same scene the same way twice so how do ytou test that.

look, if it makes you feel all big and 1337 using your third party software go for it but don't act like it is the best.

Geez....you're like a little kid screaming the same redundant thing, over and over to his parents

I WANT A MONKEY!
I WANT A MONKEY!
I WANT A MONKEY!

You've called names to everyone in the thread who hasnt agree'd with you, and the argument isnt even important.

Step back and look at what you're arguing about, then look at the way you are acting....Your folks should put you on a timeout from the internet.

Screaming and repeating yourself redundantly will never make you a good debater, and you'll agree with me once you've grown up a little.

@ everyone:
for those that want to see how this thread got started, look here and you will see the logical prowess of our own resident monkey lover. (he linked from there to here, I figured I would return the favor. lol)

the progression is actually quite humorous, especially on the second page as he is edited b/c he can't keep the vein in his head from throbbing... GrapeApe's literal woodshed beating of him is the star of the show though by far.

I am home now for this fine saturday (as Grape put it) and thought I would sally forth over to see how ol' rob here was doing... obviously the same. 8O I expect this thread to be edited thoroughly soon as well based on that experience.

EDIT: just for clarification, his very first post on this forum was an insult! It was that first one in that other thread, and he started right off calling stranger a "nublet"... lol. At this moment he has 24... all of similar calibre. That is obviosly the best way to win friends and influence ppl.

Yeah, Glad I didn't waste any more time on this yesterday, the Stamps won the football game and the beer and bud was fanstatic a great Saturday, in fact just got up.

Like I said in the other thread you're like a dog with a bone, ignoring what people wrote in order to create your paper tiger/red herring argument thread, to try and justify your actions in the other thread. You point out where this is wrong, you ignored it in the other thread, but it doesn't surprise me because it's pretty straight forward;

Actually CCC has alot of good uses, and when properly tweaked works very well, if still marginally slower than CP. And while you say it's just for Nublets, really the only people it makes the most difference to is those looking to get 1 bunghoiliomark more than their previous score.

If you're a performance junkie, and wanna tweak every electron then ATiTrayTools or ATiTool are very useful apps. However, for THAT thread we were discussing this wasn't someone asking how to OC the heck out of his system but someone just asking about setting profiles for games, and surprise surprise most people recommended ATiTrayTools for it's management capabilities, but also mention that CCC has some basic tools to do the job if you want to start out slow first. You want him to run before he can even crawl.

I think anyone who bothers (waste of time watching you flame-out) to read the thread as sojrner linked to, will see you lose your argument and apparently your mind. It looks like I missed some especially convincing arguments/statements you had as they were edited out. Musta been killer-logical.

Anywhoo, I'm sure if you do still read/reply here you'll have something equally juvenille to add, but I'm not going to bother replying to it as the previous thread shows you obviously can't stay within the boundaries of the forum so you'll only try to drag everyone else down to your level.

You people talk like ATI TRAY TOOLS is to hard for newbies to learn and that they should stay with CCC for a couple of years or something I am a newbie as well and you know whats funny? I had CCC installed for about 3 days and then someone introduced me to ATI TRAY TOOLS, best thing that ever happened to me since becoming an ATI fan 8) It took me all of about 10-15 minutes to get familiar with the tool and it was actually less complicated than that over bloated crap that CCC offers you.

Really people, ATI TRAY TOOLS is easier to use than CCC and just like that robs guy stated the profile setup is far better with tray tools.

no-one here is saying that tray tools sucks. We are not even saying that n00bs should stick w/ it... rather we are just saying that ccc is not as bloated as all the detractors would like to believe (uses no more than anything else when minimized); it does everything you need, including minor oc'ing w/o the need for 3rd party hacks; it is stable...

With those ideas in mind (there are probably others too) the only compelling reasons to use tray tools is that
A: if you want more robust oc'ing beyond the "stock" functionality (atiTool).

B: if you like the profile implementations better then ccc.

C: if you just subjectively prefer the tray tools gui, or really dislike .net (some just can't get over that, and that is fine)

D: if you are a troll and live on bungholio marks for your e-peni$ compensation.

Those are the reasons I could come up w/ off the top of my mind right now... there may be one I missed but you get the idea. Basically tray tools is a great app, but not worth ripping on ccc over. Too many fanbois and flamers are just saying "ccc sucks and tray tools is the only thing you should use! If not then you suck like ccc." When others are saying that to be accepted you must use tray tools or else you are a n00b it is just juvenile.

That is what the argument has been against from my perspective. In may ways, and for many ppl ccc is easier then any 3rd party app as many out there are overwhelmed when trying to find and dl these apps... ccc is easy to find (ati.com) and obvious to even the bassest of n00bs. If you got tray tools first and you like it, rock on. Many ppl just do not need/want it. It is just not worth getting worked up over whic
h is better as that is a subjective debate at best.


Ok cool 8) I see what you mean for the most part. I noticed you have a dual core, do you like it? I am going to sell my Sandiego 4000+ which I have overclocked at 2950ghz and purchase a X2 4800 and then overclock it.

I know I will not see much difference right now but it seems like next year will be all about multi threaded games.

VIDEO CARD SOFTWARE MAKES ME ANGGRRYYYYY!!![/best Hulk impression]

that seems to be the problem. everyone thinks ccc sucks (for whatever reason, maybe someone told them and they just believed it...) and they never try it... then they just keep perpetuating the belief that ccc blows w/o first hand experience. Not saying you do that at all, just making a point off of what you said there.

att is fine, but so is ccc. Both good for different reasons.

EXACTLY!

I posted this before, many things can be set without launching it. sure some thing like some video tweaks I need to open it, but many can be done without launching;



Is the plain display driver and ATT faster? Yeah a bit, but it's not as bad as it was and really not worth going mental over, and definitely worth getting people all worried about IMO.

Personally found the difference in actual gaming pretty much negligeable so it's easier just to install the defaults and leave everything in place (I leave ATiTool and Rivatuner there for my needs [I don't like that ATT sometime needs more recent versions to work well without issue]).