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Windows XP Pro and Services - What really needs to run

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October 10, 2004 11:20:46 PM

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I would like to know exactly what services in XP Pro absolutely need to run.
I use XP Pro on my home computer as I have 4 units on the network.

I also use the computer for online gaming and need to have as much ram as
possible available for the game itself.

What services are actually ABSOLUTELY neccesary to use XP Pro and connect to
the internet.

Computer Specs -

AMD 1.3 ghz Athlon
512mb Ram
nVidia GeForce 4 MX 5200 video - 128mb ram
Windows XP
Office XP

Also- how do I set up a Virtual Private Network so that others can connect
to each other via the VPN tunnel? I own several domains and want to set one
up for secure communications and file transfer over the internet.

Charles Dudley
www.gamers-webhost.com
October 10, 2004 11:20:47 PM

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"Chuck" <chuck@gamers-webhost.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to know exactly what services in XP Pro absolutely need to
run.
> I use XP Pro on my home computer as I have 4 units on the network.
>
> I also use the computer for online gaming and need to have as much ram as
> possible available for the game itself.
>
> What services are actually ABSOLUTELY neccesary to use XP Pro and connect
to
> the internet.
>
> Computer Specs -
>
> AMD 1.3 ghz Athlon
> 512mb Ram
> nVidia GeForce 4 MX 5200 video - 128mb ram
> Windows XP
> Office XP
>
> Also- how do I set up a Virtual Private Network so that others can connect
> to each other via the VPN tunnel? I own several domains and want to set
one
> up for secure communications and file transfer over the internet.
>
> Charles Dudley
> www.gamers-webhost.com
>
>

Maybe this --> http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm will help you.

Joe
October 10, 2004 11:20:47 PM

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Here are some sites that you may find useful
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist....


"Chuck" <chuck@gamers-webhost.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to know exactly what services in XP Pro absolutely need to
run.
> I use XP Pro on my home computer as I have 4 units on the network.
>
> I also use the computer for online gaming and need to have as much ram as
> possible available for the game itself.
>
> What services are actually ABSOLUTELY neccesary to use XP Pro and connect
to
> the internet.
>
> Computer Specs -
>
> AMD 1.3 ghz Athlon
> 512mb Ram
> nVidia GeForce 4 MX 5200 video - 128mb ram
> Windows XP
> Office XP
>
> Also- how do I set up a Virtual Private Network so that others can connect
> to each other via the VPN tunnel? I own several domains and want to set
one
> up for secure communications and file transfer over the internet.
>
> Charles Dudley
> www.gamers-webhost.com
>
>
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Anonymous
October 10, 2004 11:24:17 PM

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"No@Spam" <Nobody@Nowhere> wrote in message
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> Here are some sites that you may find useful
> http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
> http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
> http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist....
>
>
> "Chuck" <chuck@gamers-webhost.com> wrote in message
> news:iYfad.1563$275.615@trndny01...
>> I would like to know exactly what services in XP Pro absolutely need
>> to
> run.
>> I use XP Pro on my home computer as I have 4 units on the network.
>>
>> I also use the computer for online gaming and need to have as much
>> ram as
>> possible available for the game itself.
>>
>> What services are actually ABSOLUTELY neccesary to use XP Pro and
>> connect
> to
>> the internet.
>>
>> Computer Specs -
>>
>> AMD 1.3 ghz Athlon
>> 512mb Ram
>> nVidia GeForce 4 MX 5200 video - 128mb ram
>> Windows XP
>> Office XP
>>
>> Also- how do I set up a Virtual Private Network so that others can
>> connect
>> to each other via the VPN tunnel? I own several domains and want to
>> set
> one
>> up for secure communications and file transfer over the internet.
>>
>> Charles Dudley
>> www.gamers-webhost.com
>>
>>
>

Blackviper's site is a sledgehammer approach and *will* result in great
fear, uncertainty, and doubt when the computer fails to perform its
appointed tasks. Joe's post references the eldergeek, perhaps the best
recommendations. Only make one change at a time, though.

Q
Anonymous
October 10, 2004 11:32:12 PM

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There isn't a "Core Service" list, it depends on the Hardware and the
configuration of your PC. Service's are heavily interdependent. It also
depends on your Network & Protocols. WIA will run if you config is
using a Digital Imaging device. Themes aren't necessary if you are using
Windows Classic.
Actually, to contradict myself there probably is a core of say 19-22
services that if stopped would cause XP to not perform correctly.
On my own system I have 36 active services, 8 of them are Symantec
and 2 are LaserJet services. It's really a complicated issue and there
isn't any single setup that works for everybody.
Also, there is more to it than what appears in the Services listing in
the MMConsole. If you look in the Registry's HKLM, CurrentControl
Set/Services you'll see many more items listed.
Best suggestion is read up & Back up before twiddling with Service
Start modes.

"Chuck" <chuck@gamers-webhost.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to know exactly what services in XP Pro absolutely need to
>run. I use XP Pro on my home computer as I have 4 units on the network.
>
> I also use the computer for online gaming and need to have as much ram as
> possible available for the game itself.
>
> What services are actually ABSOLUTELY neccesary to use XP Pro and connect
> to the internet.
>
> Computer Specs -
>
> AMD 1.3 ghz Athlon
> 512mb Ram
> nVidia GeForce 4 MX 5200 video - 128mb ram
> Windows XP
> Office XP
>
> Also- how do I set up a Virtual Private Network so that others can connect
> to each other via the VPN tunnel? I own several domains and want to set
> one up for secure communications and file transfer over the internet.
>
> Charles Dudley
> www.gamers-webhost.com
>
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 10:07:55 PM

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> Actually, to contradict myself there probably is a core of say 19-22
> services that if stopped would cause XP to not perform correctly.
> On my own system I have 36 active services, 8 of them are Symantec
> and 2 are LaserJet services. It's really a complicated issue and there
> isn't any single setup that works for everybody.

By way of reference, I've got 18 services that are "started" and
four of them are non-Microsoft services. However, I've probably
cut my services down to the bone, below the number of the average
computer user. I have no trouble doing all that I need to do, and
surfing the Internet as well.
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 10:07:56 PM

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I wonder what gain you were hoping to achieve by cutting your services "down
to the bone." Yes, I've read all the hype on several web sites. Hype it is.
If a user's system is so underpowered and/or fragile that they need need to
look to Windows services to help their computer's performance, they've got
other problems. And what future problems will you complain about in this and
(in view of your lack of judgement) many other groups that can be traced to
a short-sighted interference with the operating system?

Ted Zieglar

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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>> Actually, to contradict myself there probably is a core of say 19-22
>> services that if stopped would cause XP to not perform correctly.
>> On my own system I have 36 active services, 8 of them are Symantec
>> and 2 are LaserJet services. It's really a complicated issue and there
>> isn't any single setup that works for everybody.
>
> By way of reference, I've got 18 services that are "started" and four of
> them are non-Microsoft services. However, I've probably cut my services
> down to the bone, below the number of the average computer user. I have no
> trouble doing all that I need to do, and surfing the Internet as well.
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 10:11:59 PM

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> Blackviper's site is a sledgehammer approach and *will* result in great
> fear, uncertainty, and doubt when the computer fails to perform its
> appointed tasks. Joe's post references the eldergeek, perhaps the best
> recommendations. Only make one change at a time, though.

But the BlackViper site give you a good idea of what you actually
*need* to have running, the bare minimum.
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 10:12:00 PM

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I like it for troubleshooting, but I usually don't like to run skinny.

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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>> Blackviper's site is a sledgehammer approach and *will* result in great
>> fear, uncertainty, and doubt when the computer fails to perform its
>> appointed tasks. Joe's post references the eldergeek, perhaps the best
>> recommendations. Only make one change at a time, though.
>
> But the BlackViper site give you a good idea of what you actually *need*
> to have running, the bare minimum.
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 11:06:34 PM

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> I wonder what gain you were hoping to achieve by cutting your services "down to the bone." Yes, I've read all the hype on several web sites. Hype it is. If a user's system is so underpowered and/or fragile that they need need to look to Windows services to help their computer's performance, they've got other problems. And what future problems will you complain about in this and (in view of your lack of judgement) many other groups that can be traced to a short-sighted interference with the operating system?
>
> Ted Zieglar

What you call "short sighted interference with the operating
system" I call taking control of my own computer. I don't give a
flying damn what Microsoft thinks should be running at startup on
my computer -- I want to run what I need to run for my own
particular situation. And, as a general principle, the less you
have running, the less likelihood there is for software conflicts,
and the fewer system resources you will use. As it happens, I have
a fast computer with a full gig of RAM memory, but I don't ever
want a fat computer.
Anonymous
October 11, 2004 11:06:35 PM

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You've fallen for the hype, my friend. Lock stock and barrel.

Don't be surprised if weeks or months from now some problem will "suddenly"
strike your system, which you will undoubtedly blame on Microsoft.

Ted Zieglar

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message
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>> I wonder what gain you were hoping to achieve by cutting your services
>> "down to the bone." Yes, I've read all the hype on several web sites.
>> Hype it is. If a user's system is so underpowered and/or fragile that
>> they need need to look to Windows services to help their computer's
>> performance, they've got other problems. And what future problems will
>> you complain about in this and (in view of your lack of judgement) many
>> other groups that can be traced to a short-sighted interference with the
>> operating system?
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>
> What you call "short sighted interference with the operating system" I
> call taking control of my own computer. I don't give a flying damn what
> Microsoft thinks should be running at startup on my computer -- I want to
> run what I need to run for my own particular situation. And, as a general
> principle, the less you have running, the less likelihood there is for
> software conflicts, and the fewer system resources you will use. As it
> happens, I have a fast computer with a full gig of RAM memory, but I don't
> ever want a fat computer.
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