I been trying to find the am2 x2 5000+for a few weeks and no retailer seams to have one. Was this a paper launch?
I been trying to find the am2 x2 5000+for a few weeks and no retailer seams to have one. Was this a paper launch?
I been trying to find the am2 x2 5000+for a few weeks and no retailer seams to have one. Was this a paper launch?
I been trying to find the am2 x2 5000+for a few weeks and no retailer seams to have one. Was this a paper launch?
There are two arguments to this, a bull view and a bear view ---
a) The price drop created such a huge demand that they are selling out and supply cannot keep up.
b) The yields are sooooo low that they simply cannot more manufacture more than a few thousand, again supply cannot keep up with demand.
Here is the ticket. Prior to AM2 launch, the highest speed AMD processor was 2.6 GHz, which was an FX-60. Upon AM2 release, and the FX-62 release the top bin part was a 2.8 GHz FX-62 and the 2.6 GHz became the X2 5000+ (i.e. the prior refresh top bin speed). We can easily assume that the 2.8 GHz is a low yielded high speed top bin, and this is why AMD charges the price they charge --- the question is, at this refresh, did they get design/process to populate the 2.6 GHz sufficiently to call this part a mainstream high yielding part.....
We won't know for a few more months, at least not until demand satiates sufficiently to see if supply catches up --- if not, then this suggests that they have pegged out the 90 nm process not at 2.8 GHz but more like at 2.6 GHz.
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I been trying to find the am2 x2 5000+for a few weeks and no retailer seams to have one. Was this a paper launch?
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual core processors up to 5000+
one of the admins from where?? Newegg??I'm buying one and one of the admins said they are getting a new shipment soon... like this week. The in stock says 2-5 days, so crossing fingers it will be available.
Ok, we'll see ... doesn't change the fact that you cannot find any 5000+ CPUs.
But the build date on an E6600 is Aug 10th.... if you check HP ...
Actually, I am just razzing up Baron again --- his claim is that they are all going to OEMs and that is not the case, the OEMs don't have them so they don't list them --- it is still supply and demand, I like your alternative explanation better. Opty's are giving them the higher profit margin --- if they are testing out good enough, man throw that sucker in the Opty pile. This would be smart.
Hector Ruiz once said in so many words --- I will screw the consumer to move more into enterprise. So to speak. He knows where the green flows.
Worst than that --- if you build an HP AMD system you only get the option of DDR2-533, yuck what's this all about --- 533 is gonna suck with any X2 processor, not to mention that the memory divider will down clock that further (not an even multiple of 200) --- darn, HP is ripping people off.
I look at the DDR2 controversy the same I way I looked at the DDR latency vs. speed ratings. As an example,
PC2100 was the best latency and size.
PC2700 had good latency and 4GB chips
PC3200 had good latency but only 2GB chips
WHen PC3200 first came out the latency was OK, but as it went on the latency got better and enabled more speed from the DDR bus.
DDR2 533 will run at DDR latencies which gives a good experience. Of course HP should offer the 667 and 800 but I guess they're cheap.
My DDR is running at 3-3-3-8 and I have no issues.
one of the admins from where?? Newegg??I'm buying one and one of the admins said they are getting a new shipment soon... like this week. The in stock says 2-5 days, so crossing fingers it will be available.
to just stay within 20% of Core 2 Duo, you need that DDR2-800 with the tight timings... forget the budget RAM, you need to pony up another 400-500 bucks beyond the MB and CPU to get the best memory.