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August 8, 2006 6:50:43 AM

Hi,

Can someone pls show me or direct me to showwhere where I can get some sample settings?

Is it possible to run a 667Mhz DDRII ram on 800MHz with a little bit increase in voltage?

Thanks in advance.
August 8, 2006 9:11:44 AM

I think he means on any configuration, be it c2d or am2 or p4 or whatever. I personally don't know if it can go that far, but there might be the lucky guy somewhere that gets that special ram kit that can go farther than most of its type.
August 8, 2006 11:44:14 AM

Sorry for not being clear in my previous mail,

here is my systems

. Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 (AM2) motherboard
. Single core Orleans 3800+ AMD CPU
. 4G 667 DDR2 RAM
. Inno 3D 7600GT
. Sound blaster x-fi sound card
. 2 * 19" Viewsonic LCD

My questions are, how can I overclock my cpu, what are the settings? Can I overclock my ram?

Thanks in advance.
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August 8, 2006 12:00:56 PM

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My questions are, how can I overclock my cpu, what are the settings?


In the BIOS, you should see a setting called "CPU Frequency" (or at least that's what it's called in my BIOS). The default will be 200; it's the base clock which is used to determine the CPU, RAM, and HTT (I'll explain later what HTT is) frequency. Your CPU is 2.4GHz; that speed is found by multiplying that base clock by the CPU multiplier of 12 (12*200=2400MHz). So if you raise that base clock to, say, 250MHz, then you'll have a 3GHz CPU (12*250=3000).

Athlon 64s don't have a conventional FSB; they use what's called HyperTransportTechnology (HTT) to the other parts (I think HDD, RAM, and some other stuff?) of the system. On socket 939 and AM2 (not excluding AM2 Semprons), HyperTransport runs at 1GHz (2GHz DDR). The HTT speed is determined by multiplying that base clock by a number up to 5 (5 is the default).

Sorry for the incomplete post; I have to leave home now. I'll finish my post later today.
August 8, 2006 5:17:10 PM

hello,i also have an Orleans 3800(2400mhz) so i decided to reply.


here is what i did : - cpu voltage at 1.552
- multiplier at 9
- HTT at 300
- memory at 385,7mhz with the divider at 7
- the htt multi is at 3 since going to 4 would be too much
- RAM is running at 1.9v(default 1.8v)

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so this gives me exactly 2700mhz which is 300mhz overclock from the original.i wouldnt go more than 1.6v on the CPU so this is what i settled for until AMD releases the 0.65 micron cpus.
other parts that i have in the PC ---> - mainboard: ASUS M2N32-SLI DELUXE
- memory: 2GB (1GB x 2) super talent T800UX2GC4,with timings running at CL 4-4-3-8
- PSU is a 530W Tagan
- cpu cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro which is very good middle performance cooler,gives me about 24-26 when idle and 49-51 when full load.
rest of my setup doesnt matter for the overclocking...video,hdd etc
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in your case having an Gigabyte board i have no idea how high can the HTT go,i bought the asus cause i knew for sure that it can be pushed up to 333 so i can just wish you luck with the Gigabyte board.

be sure to have a good cpu cooler the AMD one that comes in the package is pretty weak imo.
useful progs when overclocking are CPU-Z,core temp,your mainboard control progs that come with the motherboard, i hope Gigabyte provides just as good ones as Asus does,never had a GB board so no idea...
i would say your cpu has no problem running just as high as mine(2700) you just gotta see and combine the HTT multi with the memory,no idea how far can you go with your GB board and memory...

wish you good luck m8 :) 
August 8, 2006 6:03:04 PM

Thanks.

I don't have too much experience on oc'ing Athlon 64, my last CPU was a 2500+ barton and it can be oc'd to 3200+ with ease.

Anyway, I tried some different setting, the best I can get is 226 * 12, I increaed the Ram voltage by 0.025 and the CPU voltage to 1.4v

Now I am getting extra 10%, all the applications are working fine.

Thanks everybody.

P.S. I didn't know what that HTT is so I chose auto for most settings.
August 8, 2006 6:59:28 PM

Word on the street is that it's far better to buy fast RAM that can handle an FSB higher than the default for your CPU (and thus take any FSB increases in its stride) than it is to try and overclock any RAM by such a high amount you are suggesting (you're talking an almost 20 percent overclock here!).

In short, given the price difference you shoulda bought DDR2-800 with good timings. That way you wouldn't have this problem because you could be increasing your FSB and still keeping good timings without needing to increase voltage and risk nuking your RAM.

It also means (as MB rightly suggested) that when you get a CPU that needs DDR2-800 as standard then you would have some scope for increasing the FSB to overclock that.
August 9, 2006 8:18:25 AM

I managed to find a detailed review on how to o/c an AMD processor from your "pove here" link.

I now know how to tweak the HTT thing, hehe. Going to push it to the limit tonite.

Thanks again to everyone.
August 9, 2006 9:49:55 AM

Thanks wusy.

I have a few more questions.

1/ The default voltage of Orleans 3800+ is 1.35v, how far it can go? Is 1.5v safe?

2/ For DDR2 Ram, what is the default voltage? How far it can go in terms of increasing voltage?

Thanks.
August 10, 2006 8:46:32 AM

Tried but failed.

Here's what I did

1/ reduce the HTT multiplier from 5X to 4X
2/ increase the fsb frequency from 200 to 250
3/ increase the ram voltage by 0.075
4/ increase the cpu voltage to 1.475

My PC can't even pass the bios stage and o/c has also killed my raid 0.
Sadly, my cpu can't be o/c'd by changing the HTT multiplier.

250*12 = 3G is just too much for my cpu
August 14, 2006 4:07:17 PM

I've got the same problem as the originator, EXCEPT I have NOT been changing the voltages.

ONLY manual 200 X 10x works. That setting yields 2000MHZ. Auto, Standard, oc profile oc by 3% won't boot...no other setting seems to work !

12x200 will boot but hangs once I start Sysandra. Am I outta luck on getting to the possible 2400MHZ or higher?

but no matter what I do..
even standard, auto,
12x *200 -ATRIX CSCI-L8039-C34 Black/Silver SECC steel sheeting FCC class CB&CE approved ATX Mid Tower 4in1 Combo Computer Case 480W (20/24 pin Prescott version) Power Supply -

-ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131024

-MSI NX7300GT-TD256EH Geforce 7300GT 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814127213

-AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3800CNBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103631

-A-DATA V-Series 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VDJKD1A16 - OEM
Item #: N82E16820211139

any ideas?

Thanks,

Chas
August 15, 2006 4:33:34 AM

I have got mine to work @2.76G now :lol: 

Here's my settings,

HTT Multiplier: 5X
FSB freq: 230MHz
CPU Multiplier: 12X
CPU Voltage: 1.425v
Ram Voltage: default + 0.05v

My PC has come through super pi, memtest & burnittest. It's great.
August 15, 2006 3:09:15 PM

Thanks!...I'll try it and let ya know!

Chas
August 15, 2006 4:12:22 PM

Quote:
I have got mine to work @2.76G now :lol: 

Here's my settings,

HTT Multiplier: 5X
FSB freq: 230MHz
CPU Multiplier: 12X
CPU Voltage: 1.425v
Ram Voltage: default + 0.05v

My PC has come through super pi, memtest & burnittest. It's great.

-------end quote

--------------------------see my post in this thread for exact specs.

1.hmmmmm five days earlier you said you couldn't change your HTT multiplyer then you said change it to 5x

2. I can't do 12x as stated originally
3. I can only adjust HTT Freq 200-1000Mhz
4. voltage range for CPU is only 1.025-1.4

5. by Ram Voltage do you mean DDR voltage as per bios ref below?

DDR Voltage [1.90V] default range 1.8-1.95


...do you have an asus m2v board with AMI bios v0504 or 0407???

I appreciate your help, but I think we are comparing apples to oranges

Chas

there is no HTT Multiplier on my
August 15, 2006 4:13:48 PM

Quote:
I have got mine to work @2.76G now :lol: 

Here's my settings,

HTT Multiplier: 5X
FSB freq: 230MHz
CPU Multiplier: 12X
CPU Voltage: 1.425v
Ram Voltage: default + 0.05v

My PC has come through super pi, memtest & burnittest. It's great.

-------end quote

--------------------------see my post in this thread for exact specs.

1.hmmmmm five days earlier you said you couldn't change your HTT multiplyer then you said change it to 5x

2. I can't do 12x as stated originally
3. I can only adjust HTT Freq 200-1000Mhz
4. voltage range for CPU is only 1.025-1.4

5. by Ram Voltage do you mean DDR voltage as per bios ref below?

DDR Voltage [1.90V] default range 1.8-1.95


...do you have an asus m2v board with AMI bios v0504 or 0407???

I appreciate your help, but I think we are comparing apples to oranges

Chas

there is no HTT Multiplier on my
August 16, 2006 1:02:58 PM

Quote:
You misunderstood me.

I said I can change the HTT multiplier from 5 to 4X but I couldn't get my PC to work @4 X 250MHz

Anyway, take a look at the pic.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6430/et5fn8.jpg


Thannks for your input! The pix is great for a Gigabyte Mobo...

Anyone here got an Asus M2v with a single core AMD64 3800+ that has had success with overclocking >2000 MHZ?...WITH that combo?

Thanks, Chas
August 16, 2006 5:41:22 PM

Quote:
I have got mine to work @2.76G now :lol: 

Here's my settings,

HTT Multiplier: 5X
FSB freq: 230MHz
CPU Multiplier: 12X
CPU Voltage: 1.425v
Ram Voltage: default + 0.05v

My PC has come through super pi, memtest & burnittest. It's great.


I'm new to overclocking on the AM2 platform. What did you do to get your RAM running at that speed besides increasing the voltage. Are you using RAM dividers, and could you tell me your settings in BIOS for your RAM? Thanks
August 16, 2006 6:37:37 PM

I did only 3 things

1/ increase fsb
2/ increase ram voltage
3/ increase cpu voltage

rest are set as default.

!