Ok guys, I'm building a computer. I have everything I need besides the motherboard, processor, and RAM. I'm having trouble figuring out what parts are compatible and are in my price range.
Keep in mind I want it to be able to run Oblivion (recommended, http://www.theelderscrolls.com/gam [...] _faq.htm). It has to be compatible (obviously) and you can toy around with the prices as long as it stays 400-450$.
Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section by the way, I didn't know where else to post it.
A couple things:
1) Those links to newegg are broken. I just got a message saying, "We are very sorry, the page that you requested does not exist."
2) What is your total budget for the CPU, mobo, and RAM?
3) Why do you link to a video card if you already have one?
4) What are the complete specs of this PC, inlcluding the parts that you already have?
1. I just fixed the links, check my first post again.
2. My total budget for everything I listed is about 400-450.
3. That's the video card I picked out, I don't actually have one yet.
4. I'm not sure, but I don't think the other things would effect what I'm trying to upgrade on it or fix (the motherboard fried, video card outdated, processor is either fried or outdated, not enough RAM)
4. I'm not sure, but I don't think the other things would effect what I'm trying to upgrade on it or fix (the motherboard fried, video card outdated, processor is either fried or outdated, not enough RAM)
Ouch. That sounds like what happened to me. My computer was an HP; the CPU fried, my mobo fried, and it had an X600, which is the definition of outdated. At least it had 1GB RAM, a PCIe video card, and a SATA hard drive. I bought a new CPU, mobo, case, and PSU.
I wouldn't get that CPU. The whole Prescott series runs very hot. Trust me; my P4 540 (same as the 541, except no 64-bit support) fried. Instead, I'd get an Athlon 64 3800+ (socket AM2), which is both faster, cooler, and uses less power. It's only $10 more than that P4 crap.
All socket AM2 CPUs use DDR2 RAM, but I really don't know much about RAM, so I won't recommend anything.
Also, I don't know much about socket AM2 motherboards; check google for reviews.
For the videocard you suggested, I was choosing from the Oblivion supported video chips (I don't believe that particular one you chose is on there). Is that card as good as the one I chose and going to work with Oblivion?
And one other thing, is that processor there only 110 for today or does "One Day Only" mean something else?
With the eVGA board at $150 after rebate, you've got $300 left. Unfortunately, 1GB of decent memory will cost closer to $90. Here's what seems to be a good deal on some DDR2 at $84 AR:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] Code=85205 That leaves around $210 for CPU+MB. A decent MB will run around $100, so you'll have around $100 for the CPU. Others will likely have some good suggestions for CPU+MB at $210.
With the eVGA board at $150 after rebate, you've got $300 left. Unfortunately, 1GB of decent memory will cost closer to $90. Here's what seems to be a good deal on some DDR2 at $84 AR:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] Code=85205 That leaves around $210 for CPU+MB. A decent MB will run around $100, so you'll have around $100 for the CPU. Others will likely have some good suggestions for CPU+MB at $210.
Ok, thanks. Can anyone tell me what makes one motherboard better than the other and what will be compatible with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103631 (if this is only on sale for today, then I'm gonna have to find another one if it goes up significantly in price, because I'm not ready to buy anything yet).
Thanks for everyone's help, I really have no idea what I'm doing, heh
Ok guys, I'm building a computer. I have everything I need besides the motherboard, processor, and RAM. I'm having trouble figuring out what parts are compatible and are in my price range.
Keep in mind I want it to be able to run Oblivion (recommended, http://www.theelderscrolls.com/gam [...] _faq.htm). It has to be compatible (obviously) and you can toy around with the prices as long as it stays 400-450$.
Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section by the way, I didn't know where else to post it.
Done, I think everyone else here will agree that, it is a much better system than what you were going to get. and This rig will handle Oblivion Just fine.
Done, I think everyone else here will agree that, it is a much better system than what you were going to get. and This rig will handle Oblivion Just fine.
Forget everything and buy them!
What if I decide to downgrade the videocard a little bit, what card(s) can I get that are still compatible?
Actually scratch that, If I go down to the 7600 instead of the 7900, should I think about spending the money elsewhere?
No, if you want to play Oblivion at like at least 30fps+ and playable, go for 7900gt.
With a 7600gt, you won't be satisfied.
7900gt will last you a long time.
Trust me
EDIT: If you REALLY want to get a 7600gt... don't spend any more money on the cpu... when 65nm Athlon processors come out late 2006, buy that, and it will be much better than 90nm ones.
Actually, if you want the best performance in Oblivion, get a X1800XT, it outperforms 7900gt in everything.
Actually, if you want the best performance in Oblivion, get a X1800XT, it outperforms 7900gt in everything.
That's not true, unless the X1800XT is 512mb. Otherwise, each of the cards are about equal. Some games will naturally play better on one brand than the other, of course.
For those posting suggestions: Please INCLUDE SHIPPING COST in your price quotes. It can make a big difference (as in the posts above) to quote (for example) a newegg price w/o the $5 extra for shipping and another price that includes shipping.
Ok, I'm getting this card (I'm pretty sure I don't want the 512mb one)
As for a power supply (my brother just told me the one we have is 350 watts) should that be enough or should I get a better one? If so, can anyone recommend one?
You could always buy an xbox 360 as Oblivion was made for that console, it has DX10 video so it will run at full settings, costs between 350 and 500 depending where you go. The only difference between versions is keyboard/mouse versus controler. Oh that and the tittie mod. mmmm animated boobies...
I hate to break it to you, but unless it is a really good 350W PSU, you probably won't. What brand is it? What are the amps? The amps are in a chart like this:
As for a power supply (my brother just told me the one we have is 350 watts) should that be enough or should I get a better one? If so, can anyone recommend one?
What is the make/model of that power supply? Also, what are the amps on teh 12V rail?
It *might* work. 17A is more than I expected, I was thinking like 12A or 14A...
I've been reading some reviews of the X1800XT and it eats watts like no other. It'll take upto to 9A on load. I think I've known one computer than ran a X1800XT on a 350W... That leaves 8A on load for the CPU, drives, fans, etc...Possible, but there might issues.
Ok, thanks. One more question (I know, when will they stop :-P). If the power supply isn't enough to support everything, will that damage any of my parts? I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Also, I might be overclocking (the processor most likely if I can figure it out)... does that take extra power as well?
Actually, with AM2 dual-channel gives no added benefit. One stick will work just as fast.
On the PSU. It is possible that with a strong enough load it might blow the PSU which in turn might hurt other components. But usually the computer will automatically restart or even shutdown. A shutdown means that it is dead, the PSU at least. Restarts are much more common.
Ok, thank you and everyone else who has helped me, I really appreciate it. I assume the double +12V is better than 1, so I'm going with the one you suggested.
I was just looking at the motherboard and the RAM, and the motherboard says DDR2 800, and the RAM says 667... My guess is that they aren't compatible and I'm gonna need DDR2 800 RAM. Am I right?
I was just looking at the motherboard and the RAM, and the motherboard says DDR2 800, and the RAM says 667... My guess is that they aren't compatible and I'm gonna need DDR2 800 RAM. Am I right?
It just means the motherboard will support up to ddr2 800, ddr2 667 should work fine.
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