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measekite wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
Who's next? Well you idiot if you'd bother to try and read and then
understand you wouldn't be asking such a stupid question.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120610,00.asp
Frank
measekite wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
Who's next? Well you idiot if you'd bother to try and read and then
understand you wouldn't be asking such a stupid question.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120610,00.asp
Frank
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measekite wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
-Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
measekite wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
-Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
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> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
I thought I remembered the name "PrintRite" IIRC I used their ribbons
in my Star NX-1000 rainbow dot matrix. The store that carried the OEM
version must have kept them on the shelf too long and they were very
dry. But a slightly cheaper brand at a local office store looked very
decent.
> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
I thought I remembered the name "PrintRite" IIRC I used their ribbons
in my Star NX-1000 rainbow dot matrix. The store that carried the OEM
version must have kept them on the shelf too long and they were very
dry. But a slightly cheaper brand at a local office store looked very
decent.
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zakezuke wrote:
>>The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>>dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>
>
> I thought I remembered the name "PrintRite" IIRC I used their ribbons
> in my Star NX-1000 rainbow dot matrix. The store that carried the OEM
> version must have kept them on the shelf too long and they were very
> dry. But a slightly cheaper brand at a local office store looked very
> decent.
>
Did the NX-1000 use the cartridge that was about a foot long?
Maybe I used PrintRites in my Star NX-2430, which was about twice the
price of something like a Canon iP4000 today. It used very nice sized
cartridges, kind of square looking with a peak for the ribbon. We also
had a Fujitsu with ultra-ridiculously small ribbon cartridges. They
would be virtually dry after a few dozen pages. Naturally, I re-inked
all my ribbon cartridges even then. At the time I was writing a sci-fi
novel and had to print several 400 page copies for my friends. I had
about 10 NX-2430 ribbon cartridges re-inked and stabilized for a week
for the print job which took several days. Those NX-2430 printers could
take a beating and keep on printing (sorry, Timex, I borrowed your old
slogan). Today's printers produce far better printout but are also more
prone to failure, either mechanical or printhead.
So Epson is going after dot-matrix ribbon cartridge makers? Isn't that
a bit late - like 15 years too late?
-Taliesyn
zakezuke wrote:
>>The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>>dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>
>
> I thought I remembered the name "PrintRite" IIRC I used their ribbons
> in my Star NX-1000 rainbow dot matrix. The store that carried the OEM
> version must have kept them on the shelf too long and they were very
> dry. But a slightly cheaper brand at a local office store looked very
> decent.
>
Did the NX-1000 use the cartridge that was about a foot long?
Maybe I used PrintRites in my Star NX-2430, which was about twice the
price of something like a Canon iP4000 today. It used very nice sized
cartridges, kind of square looking with a peak for the ribbon. We also
had a Fujitsu with ultra-ridiculously small ribbon cartridges. They
would be virtually dry after a few dozen pages. Naturally, I re-inked
all my ribbon cartridges even then. At the time I was writing a sci-fi
novel and had to print several 400 page copies for my friends. I had
about 10 NX-2430 ribbon cartridges re-inked and stabilized for a week
for the print job which took several days. Those NX-2430 printers could
take a beating and keep on printing (sorry, Timex, I borrowed your old
slogan). Today's printers produce far better printout but are also more
prone to failure, either mechanical or printhead.
So Epson is going after dot-matrix ribbon cartridge makers? Isn't that
a bit late - like 15 years too late?
-Taliesyn
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property and
we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
message."
Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people who
now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property and
we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
message."
Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people who
now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
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"Taliesyn" <taliesyn4@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> So Epson is going after dot-matrix ribbon cartridge makers? Isn't that
> a bit late - like 15 years too late?
>
Print-rite do inkjet carts too http://www.print-rite.com/ (assuming that's
the same company).
.. o O (......hmm.. a branded 3rd party manufacturer.....)
...and I've just noticed they also make a 'Bottom Fill Station' - the mind
boggles.
"Taliesyn" <taliesyn4@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> So Epson is going after dot-matrix ribbon cartridge makers? Isn't that
> a bit late - like 15 years too late?
>
Print-rite do inkjet carts too http://www.print-rite.com/ (assuming that's
the same company).
.. o O (......hmm.. a branded 3rd party manufacturer.....)
...and I've just noticed they also make a 'Bottom Fill Station' - the mind
boggles.
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Anna Daptor wrote:
>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>
>>
>
>
>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
>he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property and
>we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
>message."
>
>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people who
>now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>
>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>
>
MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
>
>
>
Anna Daptor wrote:
>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>
>>
>
>
>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
>he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property and
>we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
>message."
>
>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people who
>now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>
>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>
>
MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
>
>
>
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measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>
> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
> UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
> CHEAP.
Stop yelling you big eared schmuck!
hahahaha...
Frank
measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>
> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
> UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
> CHEAP.
Stop yelling you big eared schmuck!
hahahaha...
Frank
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Anna Daptor wrote:
>
>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>
>>
>>
>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
>>he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property
>>and we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
>>message."
>>
>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>
>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>
>
> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG UP
> A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
actually makes sense.
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Anna Daptor wrote:
>
>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>
>>
>>
>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair competition,"
>>he says. "We believe in respecting other people's intellectual property
>>and we expect other people to respect ours and so we'd like to send that
>>message."
>>
>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>
>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>
>
> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG UP
> A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
actually makes sense.
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"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
> news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>> Anna Daptor wrote:
>>
>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>
>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>>
>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>
>>
>> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>> UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>> CHEAP.
>>
>
> Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
> actually makes sense.
Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to a
functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school kids.
>
>
>
"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
> news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>> Anna Daptor wrote:
>>
>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>
>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>>
>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>
>>
>> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>> WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>> UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>> CHEAP.
>>
>
> Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
> actually makes sense.
Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to a
functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school kids.
>
>
>
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Burt wrote:
>"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0nJse.28013$iy2.13025@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
>
>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>>>Anna Daptor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>>
>>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>>>
>>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>>>WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>>>UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>>>CHEAP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
>>actually makes sense.
>>
>>
>
>Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
>it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to a
>functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school kids.
>
>
Writing back to this jerk does not merit any more of my time.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Burt wrote:
>"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0nJse.28013$iy2.13025@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
>
>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>>>Anna Daptor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>>
>>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the people
>>>>who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson inks?
>>>>
>>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>>>WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>>>UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>>>CHEAP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence that
>>actually makes sense.
>>
>>
>
>Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
>it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to a
>functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school kids.
>
>
Writing back to this jerk does not merit any more of my time.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Frank wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY
>> STILL WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER
>> THEY CLOG UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE
>> CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
>
>
> Stop yelling you big eared schmuck!
> hahahaha...
> Frank
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Frank wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY
>> STILL WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER
>> THEY CLOG UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE
>> CARTS ARE CHEAP.
>
>
>
> Stop yelling you big eared schmuck!
> hahahaha...
> Frank
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Burt wrote:
>
>>"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:0nJse.28013$iy2.13025@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>Anna Daptor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the
>>>>>people who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson
>>>>>inks?
>>>>>
>>>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>>>>WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>>>>UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>>>>CHEAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence
>>>that actually makes sense.
>>>
>>
>>Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
>>it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to
>>a functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school
>>kids.
>>
>
> Writing back to this jerk does not merit any more of my time.
Promise?
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Burt wrote:
>
>>"Anna Daptor" <Anna@radio.active.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:0nJse.28013$iy2.13025@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>news:niJse.3623$NU5.1280@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>Anna Daptor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:wqGse.3522$NU5.1644@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"It's important to send a message out that we [Epson] are serious about
>>>>>defending our intellectual property and also protecting fair
>>>>>competition," he says. "We believe in respecting other people's
>>>>>intellectual property and we expect other people to respect ours and so
>>>>>we'd like to send that message."
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh dear. How long before most if not all the other 3rd party ink cart
>>>>>manufacturers pull out of the market? Do Epson really believe the
>>>>>people who now are using 3rd party inks would switch to using Epson
>>>>>inks?
>>>>>
>>>>>They'd be in for a big shock if that is their idea....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>MOST OF THEM ARE WAITING FOR THE MOTHER OF ALL CLOGS. THEN THEY STILL
>>>>WILL NOT SWITCH TO EPSON. THEY WILL GO BUY A CANON AND AFTER THEY CLOG
>>>>UP A PRINTHEAD OR TWO THEY WILL THEN GO TO HP AND THINK THE CARTS ARE
>>>>CHEAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Huh? Any chance of a translation on that - preferably into a sentence
>>>that actually makes sense.
>>>
>>
>>Ann - This clown claims that he has an MBA from Stanford! If that is true
>>it is time to close this hallowed institution's doors and let it revert to
>>a functioning farm. I've seen better writing skills from middle school
>>kids.
>>
>
> Writing back to this jerk does not merit any more of my time.
Promise?
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
Art
Taliesyn wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>
>
>
>
> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
> dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>
> -Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
>
>
I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
Art
Taliesyn wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>
>
>
>
> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
> dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>
> -Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
>
>
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:31:24 GMT, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
The EU has a untie dumping Law and All carriages must be refillable, ie not
chipped.
I think you will find that the EU will fine Epson because of its stupid
actions.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:31:24 GMT, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
The EU has a untie dumping Law and All carriages must be refillable, ie not
chipped.
I think you will find that the EU will fine Epson because of its stupid
actions.
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
Let's hope so.
Art
Tony wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:31:24 GMT, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
>
>
>
> The EU has a untie dumping Law and All carriages must be refillable, ie not
> chipped.
>
> I think you will find that the EU will fine Epson because of its stupid
> actions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Let's hope so.
Art
Tony wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:31:24 GMT, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>
>
>
>
> The EU has a untie dumping Law and All carriages must be refillable, ie not
> chipped.
>
> I think you will find that the EU will fine Epson because of its stupid
> actions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
Arthur Entlich wrote:
> I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
> Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
> brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
> refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
> Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
> Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
They have the right to design their equipment (including carts) any way
they want and you have a right not to buy it. They claim their design
benefits their printer. They are under no obligation to design a
printer that uses refillable carts. You are right. You are not a lawyer.
>
> Art
>
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> measekite wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>> dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>>
>> -Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
>>
>>
Arthur Entlich wrote:
> I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
> Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
> brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
> refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
> Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
> Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
They have the right to design their equipment (including carts) any way
they want and you have a right not to buy it. They claim their design
benefits their printer. They are under no obligation to design a
printer that uses refillable carts. You are right. You are not a lawyer.
>
> Art
>
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> measekite wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=1&u=/pcworld/20050617/tc_pcworld/121430
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The complaints against this one manufacturer are related largely to
>> dot-matrix printers, according to the article.
>>
>> -Taliesyn (last used a dot matrix last century ;-)
>>
>>
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
measekite wrote:
> You are not a lawyer.
He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
Frank
measekite wrote:
> You are not a lawyer.
He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
Frank
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
I wovld get worried abovt the lawsvit. Epson began this abovt 5 years
ago when the first chip cartridges were released by Mvlti-Union, the
problem is really that Epson has thrown enovgh money at the svits that
Mvlti-Union jvst gave vp.
For all those worried abovt svpply, don't. There are so many working
designs for Epson compatibles, that don't infringe on patents, that
Epson is still screwed any way. Mvlti-Union had too mvch invested in
their original designs, so they wanted to force Epson to back-off which
is why they fovght the svits. Now thovgh, they realized it is cheaper
to simply pay Epson off and release new non-infringing designs.
However, yov can bet that the Chinese government will take an even
harder line with Epson now and fvrther restrict trade of OEM cartridges
in China, which is what REALLY made Epson file against Mvlti-Union in
the first place. Mvlti-Union was flooding the US with compatibles and
Epson covldn't get a decent share in China. Since these two covntries
are the biggest markets for consvmables, Epson decided if they covldn't
do bvsiness in China they wovld keep Mvlti-Union from dealing in the
US. Epson is now trying to go after importers in Evrope, the No. 3
market for consvmables. Expect svits in Sovth America soon, as well.
HP is also in the Game again, sving several US companies for ink patent
infringements.
The real problem is not that these companies are necessarily in the
right, its jvst that these companies have lots of money to bvrn in
litigation.
Yov shovld all thank measekite, he is helping pay for this.
I wovld get worried abovt the lawsvit. Epson began this abovt 5 years
ago when the first chip cartridges were released by Mvlti-Union, the
problem is really that Epson has thrown enovgh money at the svits that
Mvlti-Union jvst gave vp.
For all those worried abovt svpply, don't. There are so many working
designs for Epson compatibles, that don't infringe on patents, that
Epson is still screwed any way. Mvlti-Union had too mvch invested in
their original designs, so they wanted to force Epson to back-off which
is why they fovght the svits. Now thovgh, they realized it is cheaper
to simply pay Epson off and release new non-infringing designs.
However, yov can bet that the Chinese government will take an even
harder line with Epson now and fvrther restrict trade of OEM cartridges
in China, which is what REALLY made Epson file against Mvlti-Union in
the first place. Mvlti-Union was flooding the US with compatibles and
Epson covldn't get a decent share in China. Since these two covntries
are the biggest markets for consvmables, Epson decided if they covldn't
do bvsiness in China they wovld keep Mvlti-Union from dealing in the
US. Epson is now trying to go after importers in Evrope, the No. 3
market for consvmables. Expect svits in Sovth America soon, as well.
HP is also in the Game again, sving several US companies for ink patent
infringements.
The real problem is not that these companies are necessarily in the
right, its jvst that these companies have lots of money to bvrn in
litigation.
Yov shovld all thank measekite, he is helping pay for this.
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
See, a demonstration of your ingnorance. Firs our Sension no name brand
sells for $2.29. Second the manufacturer/formulator of our all of our
inkjet inks (Image Specialists) is clearly posted on all of websites.
Our premium inkjet cartridges sell for $7.00. Duh.
Is this really all you have time to do. Well since being nice hasn't
done anything, let me put it in a language you can understand.
You're a no name piece of s***t, and if you really felt the way you
feel, you wouldn't hide behind an alias, and have to switch e-mail
addresses every couple of months.
Nobody here takes you seriously, you're a just a f***cking joke that
has stopped being even remotely amusing. But like I said before, keep
right on, we get a spike in sales after every one of your idiotic
posts. You have done nothing but help our NG based sales, especially
since you have never used a single one of products. Believe me if you
had, I would have your address posted on this group so some of your
"best friends" here could pay you a little "visit".
I'm sorry you're so s***t poor from buying all those OEM cartridges
that you can't afford our products. But that is really your fault,
isn't it.
This will be my last post on this NG, it is just a big waste of time
now for me, I'll let you sell my products for me with your rants. If
anyone wants to get some real advice about printers, I can be reached
at 1-888-825-0759 or 1-804-674-6921 Monday through Friday from 10 AM to
5 PM EDT (3 PM to 10 PM GMT).
BTW since I'm taking the opportunity, We have released the following
new products for those not wasting their money on OEM:
Sponge Free Cartridges for Refilling (Canon BCI-6 equivalent)
http://www.printheadexpress.com/catalog/easyfill_universal_bci-6_blanks_for_canon_4351003.htm
We now provide aftermarket supplies for Canon printers and OEM print
heads, at lower prices than our main full service website. The new
website is called PrintHeadExpress.com
http://www.printheadexpress.com/index.html
Good-bye to everyone (except of course measekite, our new favorite
salesman).
John Mills
http://www.weink.com/
http://www.printheadexpress.com/
See, a demonstration of your ingnorance. Firs our Sension no name brand
sells for $2.29. Second the manufacturer/formulator of our all of our
inkjet inks (Image Specialists) is clearly posted on all of websites.
Our premium inkjet cartridges sell for $7.00. Duh.
Is this really all you have time to do. Well since being nice hasn't
done anything, let me put it in a language you can understand.
You're a no name piece of s***t, and if you really felt the way you
feel, you wouldn't hide behind an alias, and have to switch e-mail
addresses every couple of months.
Nobody here takes you seriously, you're a just a f***cking joke that
has stopped being even remotely amusing. But like I said before, keep
right on, we get a spike in sales after every one of your idiotic
posts. You have done nothing but help our NG based sales, especially
since you have never used a single one of products. Believe me if you
had, I would have your address posted on this group so some of your
"best friends" here could pay you a little "visit".
I'm sorry you're so s***t poor from buying all those OEM cartridges
that you can't afford our products. But that is really your fault,
isn't it.
This will be my last post on this NG, it is just a big waste of time
now for me, I'll let you sell my products for me with your rants. If
anyone wants to get some real advice about printers, I can be reached
at 1-888-825-0759 or 1-804-674-6921 Monday through Friday from 10 AM to
5 PM EDT (3 PM to 10 PM GMT).
BTW since I'm taking the opportunity, We have released the following
new products for those not wasting their money on OEM:
Sponge Free Cartridges for Refilling (Canon BCI-6 equivalent)
http://www.printheadexpress.com/catalog/easyfill_universal_bci-6_blanks_for_canon_4351003.htm
We now provide aftermarket supplies for Canon printers and OEM print
heads, at lower prices than our main full service website. The new
website is called PrintHeadExpress.com
http://www.printheadexpress.com/index.html
Good-bye to everyone (except of course measekite, our new favorite
salesman).
John Mills
http://www.weink.com/
http://www.printheadexpress.com/
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:57 -0700, Frank <fb@nospam.com> wrote:
>measekite wrote:
>
>> You are not a lawyer.
>
>He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
You are a dipshit also. Measekite is agreeing with Arthur's statement
that he is not a lawyer. You ignore the previous sentence, "You are
right."
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:57 -0700, Frank <fb@nospam.com> wrote:
>measekite wrote:
>
>> You are not a lawyer.
>
>He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
You are a dipshit also. Measekite is agreeing with Arthur's statement
that he is not a lawyer. You ignore the previous sentence, "You are
right."
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:07:40 GMT, Arthur Entlich
<e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote:
>I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
>Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
>brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
>refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
>Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
>Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
Darn those people in charge of enforcing the Sherman and Clayton
legislation are asleep at the wheel. Please do us all a favour and go
wake them up so that they could do their job.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:07:40 GMT, Arthur Entlich
<e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote:
>I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that if a company cannot produce an
>Epson compatible cartridge for each of Epson's printers (or any other
>brand) without infringing on their patents, or if they cannot be
>refilled (as Epson has designed their newer cartridges not to be) then
>Epson is in violation of anti-trust legislation like the Sherman and
>Clayton which do not allow tying or consumable to hardware.
Darn those people in charge of enforcing the Sherman and Clayton
legislation are asleep at the wheel. Please do us all a favour and go
wake them up so that they could do their job.
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
Frank wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>> You are not a lawyer.
>
>
>
> Frank
Frank wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
>> You are not a lawyer.
>
>
>
> Frank
Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)
Ototin wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:57 -0700, Frank <fb@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> You are not a lawyer.
>>>
>>>
>>He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
>>
>>
>
>You are a dipshit also. Measekite is agreeing with Arthur's statement
>that he is not a lawyer. You ignore the previous sentence, "You are
>right."
>
>
We all know about Frankie Crankie da CockRoach whose brain is Blankie.
Ototin wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:57 -0700, Frank <fb@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>measekite wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> You are not a lawyer.
>>>
>>>
>>He never claimed to be a lawyer dipshit.
>>
>>
>
>You are a dipshit also. Measekite is agreeing with Arthur's statement
>that he is not a lawyer. You ignore the previous sentence, "You are
>right."
>
>
We all know about Frankie Crankie da CockRoach whose brain is Blankie.
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