video card performance

I read that if you put artic silver on your gpu and get good mem heatsinks and make sure you have a good fan you can get more out of your vid card? overclocking wise even if some card dont oc well?

Also if you dont have vista then there no advantage to dx10 cards?

Better to use Artic Ceramique than Arctic Silver for the VPU.

As for DX10 Cards, well it's not that it's DX10 that makes it better but that they will be more powerful (more fill rate / bandwidth / etc.), just like the GF7800/X1800 vs GF6800/X800 vs R9700 vs R8500/GF4ti.

So based on all the early info it's likely that the R600 and G80 will be more powerful than any DX9 solution out there. That we call them DX10 cards instead of NextGen is causing some confusion IMO.

The cards should get a boost from DX10, but think of it like this, the Next gen will be (arbitrarily) 50% faster than current top of the line, then once DX10 comes out there will be a performance boost of 10-50% (depending on app). So think of the DX10 part as gravy, but the raw horsepower of the new processors will be better too.

Initially, but once there are DX10 budget card solutions, it will be similar to comparing an X1300 and an X850 Pro for example. The X850 Pro is much faster, but doesn't have all the tech that the X1300 does. That might be a bad example, but you get the idea.

No that's not what I said, there's no 'ANY DX10' in my statement. The G80 and R600 will likely beat any DX9 solution, however a mid-range DX10 and entry level DX10, and S3 and Intel DX10 option will likely not outperform the current mid range even. NEXT GEN CARDS will only likely outperform the card it's replacing in the hierarchy. Potentially there will be some overlap of future middle versus current high end, but that's not for a while.

No, like I said, it's not about the DX10 alone.

As for waiting or buying that's your call.


PS, stop calling it a DX10 card, you obviously can't handle that. Call them NextGen cards, you're obviously very confused.

I think you're thinking of it too linearly. I'll try this way, maybe it'll help:

- Numbered card's are last generation's card. '1' being a budget card, '5' being the top of the line. These cards have older technology (such as DX9).

- Lettered cards are this generation's card. 'A' being a budget card, 'E' being a top of the line. These cards have newer technology (such as DX10).

Now to rank them based on speed, this is generally what it'd look like.

E > D > 5 > C > 4 > B > 3 > A > 2 > 1

Maybe that's not the best way to explain it, but that's the only way I can think of to visually represent it.