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Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 13, 2004 11:31:37 PM

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One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?

One usual method of closing a window is to click
the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
this one leads sometimes to another window referring
to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
leads back to "Security Alert"......

Thank you.
--
William B. Lurie

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Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 1:14:28 AM

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you did not remove the spyware, did you....
weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error

use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
spybot safer-networking.org


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...

>-----Original Message-----
>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>
>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>
>Thank you.
>--
> William B. Lurie
>.
>
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 10:04:39 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
W B L

eagle wrote:
> you did not remove the spyware, did you....
> weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>
> use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
> spybot safer-networking.org
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>
>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>
>>Thank you.
>>--
>> William B. Lurie
>>.
>
>>


--
William B. Lurie
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Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 12:27:49 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Okay, eag..... I had spybot, ran it, it did
not detect Weatherbug. I did find it in Add/
Remove programs and removed it from there.
The problem,however, is not on this main XP
which is still SP1 and will not be updated to
SP2 until I get a drive working with SP2 and no
shenanigans. Like that "Security Alert" window
that I'm waiting for somebody (MVP?) to tell
me what it is, and how to close it.
WBL


eagle wrote:
> you did not remove the spyware, did you....
> weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>
> use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
> spybot safer-networking.org
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>
>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>
>>Thank you.
>>--
>> William B. Lurie
>>.
>
>>


--
William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 3:12:06 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Hi William,

I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up, but
also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It has been
around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very recent
acquisition.

Colin

"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
> follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
> new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
> not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
> the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
> installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
> with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
> addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
> W B L
>
> eagle wrote:
>> you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>> weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>
>> use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>> spybot safer-networking.org
>>
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>
>>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>--
>>> William B. Lurie
>>>.
>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 6:12:02 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Hi, Colin. I could be wrong about Weatherbug as part of latest AIM.
It only showed on my system, however, after I updated to the latest
version of AIM. I don't think I asked for it at all, and I'll do
without it until all other problem go away. (For me that's probably never).

Now that "Security Alert" window. I did some detective work and I'm
pretty sure it is part of the improved security that SP2 gives. I
found in Windows Task Manager two programs running when that
obtrusive window showed.....symwscno.exe and wscntfy.exe ......
Killing the second one killed the window but it wandered back after
15 seconds or so. Killing the first mentioned, it stayed gone. The
next clue is that I found two icons in my try at bottom right,
which opened up to "Windows security alerts", and told me that I
have the firewall not operating (as was my choice) and that my
Norton Anti-Virus is not enabled (also my choice until I'm ready
to go online). So all in all, I think it's a Windows+SP2 problem,
and while I don't like to call it a "bug", I don't know what else
to call a window that SP2 created that I have no way to close.

I have attached a screen shot of that window, by the way.

Maybe with that comment, one of the MVPs will care to step in.....
if they read down this far.

Bill L.

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up, but
> also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It has been
> around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very recent
> acquisition.
>
> Colin
>
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
>>Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
>>follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
>>new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
>>not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
>>the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
>>installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
>>with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
>>addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
>>W B L
>>
>>eagle wrote:
>>
>>>you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>>>weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>>
>>>use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>>>spybot safer-networking.org
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>>
>>>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.
>>>>--
>>>> William B. Lurie
>>>>.
>>>
>>
>>--
>> William B. Lurie
>
>
>


--
William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 6:12:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Normal behavior based on my system is that only one security alert shield
should appear and the balloon will include both the firewall off and
anti-virus off messages. I have seen duplicate tray icons for several
programs that follow some activity, but moving the mouse over one of them
causes it to vanish.

"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:o tklRlhsEHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Colin. I could be wrong about Weatherbug as part of latest AIM.
> It only showed on my system, however, after I updated to the latest
> version of AIM. I don't think I asked for it at all, and I'll do
> without it until all other problem go away. (For me that's probably
> never).
>
> Now that "Security Alert" window. I did some detective work and I'm
> pretty sure it is part of the improved security that SP2 gives. I
> found in Windows Task Manager two programs running when that
> obtrusive window showed.....symwscno.exe and wscntfy.exe ......
> Killing the second one killed the window but it wandered back after
> 15 seconds or so. Killing the first mentioned, it stayed gone. The
> next clue is that I found two icons in my try at bottom right,
> which opened up to "Windows security alerts", and told me that I
> have the firewall not operating (as was my choice) and that my
> Norton Anti-Virus is not enabled (also my choice until I'm ready
> to go online). So all in all, I think it's a Windows+SP2 problem,
> and while I don't like to call it a "bug", I don't know what else
> to call a window that SP2 created that I have no way to close.
>
> I have attached a screen shot of that window, by the way.
>
> Maybe with that comment, one of the MVPs will care to step in.....
> if they read down this far.
>
> Bill L.
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>> I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up,
>> but also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It
>> has been around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very
>> recent acquisition.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
>>>follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
>>>new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
>>>not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
>>>the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
>>>installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
>>>with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
>>>addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
>>>W B L
>>>
>>>eagle wrote:
>>>
>>>>you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>>>>weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>>>
>>>>use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>>>>spybot safer-networking.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>>>
>>>>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>--
>>>>> William B. Lurie
>>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>> William B. Lurie
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 7:29:41 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

That makes sense, Colin. Maybe I had two because
I clicked several times and places to try to close
out the window. I mean, the window that was *empty*
and refused to be closed, I classify as a bug or malfunction.

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Normal behavior based on my system is that only one security alert shield
> should appear and the balloon will include both the firewall off and
> anti-virus off messages. I have seen duplicate tray icons for several
> programs that follow some activity, but moving the mouse over one of them
> causes it to vanish.
>
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:o tklRlhsEHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>>Hi, Colin. I could be wrong about Weatherbug as part of latest AIM.
>>It only showed on my system, however, after I updated to the latest
>>version of AIM. I don't think I asked for it at all, and I'll do
>>without it until all other problem go away. (For me that's probably
>>never).
>>
>>Now that "Security Alert" window. I did some detective work and I'm
>>pretty sure it is part of the improved security that SP2 gives. I
>>found in Windows Task Manager two programs running when that
>>obtrusive window showed.....symwscno.exe and wscntfy.exe ......
>>Killing the second one killed the window but it wandered back after
>>15 seconds or so. Killing the first mentioned, it stayed gone. The
>>next clue is that I found two icons in my try at bottom right,
>>which opened up to "Windows security alerts", and told me that I
>>have the firewall not operating (as was my choice) and that my
>>Norton Anti-Virus is not enabled (also my choice until I'm ready
>>to go online). So all in all, I think it's a Windows+SP2 problem,
>>and while I don't like to call it a "bug", I don't know what else
>>to call a window that SP2 created that I have no way to close.
>>
>>I have attached a screen shot of that window, by the way.
>>
>>Maybe with that comment, one of the MVPs will care to step in.....
>>if they read down this far.
>>
>>Bill L.
>>
>>Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>
>>>Hi William,
>>>
>>>I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up,
>>>but also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It
>>>has been around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very
>>>recent acquisition.
>>>
>>>Colin
>>>
>>>"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>>news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
>>>>follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
>>>>new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
>>>>not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
>>>>the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
>>>>installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
>>>>with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
>>>>addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
>>>>W B L
>>>>
>>>>eagle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>>>>>weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>>>>
>>>>>use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>>>>>spybot safer-networking.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>>>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>>>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>>>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>>>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>>>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>>>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>>>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>>>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>>>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>>>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>--
>>>>>> William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 14, 2004 9:13:48 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

The Security Center, Pest Patrol, and Virtual PC will put a new copy of
their icons at the left end of the line in the Notification Area on my
system if I invoke their respective programs from the Start menu. The
original one turns out to be the phantom. If I invoke them by right
clicking on the tray icon it does not happen. Other programs that have tray
icons don't seem to care how I invoke them.

"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:uTzazQisEHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> That makes sense, Colin. Maybe I had two because
> I clicked several times and places to try to close
> out the window. I mean, the window that was *empty*
> and refused to be closed, I classify as a bug or malfunction.
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Normal behavior based on my system is that only one security alert shield
>> should appear and the balloon will include both the firewall off and
>> anti-virus off messages. I have seen duplicate tray icons for several
>> programs that follow some activity, but moving the mouse over one of them
>> causes it to vanish.
>>
>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:o tklRlhsEHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Hi, Colin. I could be wrong about Weatherbug as part of latest AIM.
>>>It only showed on my system, however, after I updated to the latest
>>>version of AIM. I don't think I asked for it at all, and I'll do
>>>without it until all other problem go away. (For me that's probably
>>>never).
>>>
>>>Now that "Security Alert" window. I did some detective work and I'm
>>>pretty sure it is part of the improved security that SP2 gives. I
>>>found in Windows Task Manager two programs running when that
>>>obtrusive window showed.....symwscno.exe and wscntfy.exe ......
>>>Killing the second one killed the window but it wandered back after
>>>15 seconds or so. Killing the first mentioned, it stayed gone. The
>>>next clue is that I found two icons in my try at bottom right,
>>>which opened up to "Windows security alerts", and told me that I
>>>have the firewall not operating (as was my choice) and that my
>>>Norton Anti-Virus is not enabled (also my choice until I'm ready
>>>to go online). So all in all, I think it's a Windows+SP2 problem,
>>>and while I don't like to call it a "bug", I don't know what else
>>>to call a window that SP2 created that I have no way to close.
>>>
>>>I have attached a screen shot of that window, by the way.
>>>
>>>Maybe with that comment, one of the MVPs will care to step in.....
>>>if they read down this far.
>>>
>>>Bill L.
>>>
>>>Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi William,
>>>>
>>>>I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up,
>>>>but also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It
>>>>has been around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very
>>>>recent acquisition.
>>>>
>>>>Colin
>>>>
>>>>"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
>>>>>follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
>>>>>new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
>>>>>not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
>>>>>the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
>>>>>installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
>>>>>with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
>>>>>addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
>>>>>W B L
>>>>>
>>>>>eagle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>>>>>>weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>>>>>
>>>>>>use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>>>>>>spybot safer-networking.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>>>>>Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>>>>>window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>>>>>window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>>>>>I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>>>>>SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>>>>>it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>>>>>the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>>>>>this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>>>>>to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>>>>>leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you.
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
October 16, 2004 2:10:29 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

My partial correction of the problem, of two days ago,
was not the solution. It may still be some interaction
between the Windows Firewall (which is off) and
Norton's NSW/Anti-Virus. In any case, ccapp.exe could
still be the root cause but Symantec (surprise!) will
not address the problem.

The question remains unanswered, as to how to close
an obtrusive open window which is empty except for its
identification at top, reading "Security Alert"....not
Windows Security Center....and in its upper left corner,
a symbol which might identify its source, like 2 dampled
sine wave cycles or just wiggles. This is satrictly an
SP2 problem. Further comments welcome.....

William B. Lurie wrote:
> That makes sense, Colin. Maybe I had two because
> I clicked several times and places to try to close
> out the window. I mean, the window that was *empty*
> and refused to be closed, I classify as a bug or malfunction.
>
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>
>> Normal behavior based on my system is that only one security alert
>> shield should appear and the balloon will include both the firewall
>> off and anti-virus off messages. I have seen duplicate tray icons for
>> several programs that follow some activity, but moving the mouse over
>> one of them causes it to vanish.
>>
>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>> news:o tklRlhsEHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Hi, Colin. I could be wrong about Weatherbug as part of latest AIM.
>>> It only showed on my system, however, after I updated to the latest
>>> version of AIM. I don't think I asked for it at all, and I'll do
>>> without it until all other problem go away. (For me that's probably
>>> never).
>>>
>>> Now that "Security Alert" window. I did some detective work and I'm
>>> pretty sure it is part of the improved security that SP2 gives. I
>>> found in Windows Task Manager two programs running when that
>>> obtrusive window showed.....symwscno.exe and wscntfy.exe ......
>>> Killing the second one killed the window but it wandered back after
>>> 15 seconds or so. Killing the first mentioned, it stayed gone. The
>>> next clue is that I found two icons in my try at bottom right,
>>> which opened up to "Windows security alerts", and told me that I
>>> have the firewall not operating (as was my choice) and that my
>>> Norton Anti-Virus is not enabled (also my choice until I'm ready
>>> to go online). So all in all, I think it's a Windows+SP2 problem,
>>> and while I don't like to call it a "bug", I don't know what else
>>> to call a window that SP2 created that I have no way to close.
>>>
>>> I have attached a screen shot of that window, by the way.
>>>
>>> Maybe with that comment, one of the MVPs will care to step in.....
>>> if they read down this far.
>>>
>>> Bill L.
>>>
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi William,
>>>>
>>>> I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing
>>>> up, but also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program,
>>>> though. It has been around a long time and if it is part of AIM it
>>>> would be a very recent acquisition.
>>>>
>>>> Colin
>>>>
>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:o 4I4cVdsEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, eagle. I'm a bit at a loss as to how to
>>>>> follow your advice. Weatherbug, I thought, was a
>>>>> new addition to AIM, and I allow it, and it does
>>>>> not disturb my SP1 systems. It does not pop up in
>>>>> the SP2 upgraded system. And to get the SP2 system
>>>>> installed and running, I'm using Selective Startup
>>>>> with only System Services so I wonder if your diagnosis
>>>>> addresses my problem. Could you be more specific?
>>>>> W B L
>>>>>
>>>>> eagle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> you did not remove the spyware, did you....
>>>>>> weatherbug is spyware,. this is your error
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use add/remove programs and spybot toremove.
>>>>>> spybot safer-networking.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22center_fail...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> One of my XP systems just upgraded to SP2----
>>>>>>> Now comes to Desktop with a big superimposed
>>>>>>> window entitled "Security Alert"......but the
>>>>>>> window is empty, and refuses to close by any means
>>>>>>> I am familiar with. Is this window generated by
>>>>>>> SP2 somenow, and if so, how do I (first) close
>>>>>>> it, and (second) stop it from showing up at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One usual method of closing a window is to click
>>>>>>> the "close" or "cancel" button it contains....
>>>>>>> this one leads sometimes to another window referring
>>>>>>> to a file "center_failed.html" which, when closing,
>>>>>>> leads back to "Security Alert"......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie


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May 9, 2005 6:15:18 PM

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Colin Barnhorst Wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> I removed Weatherbug not only for the spyware that started showing up,
> but
> also for the bandwidth it uses. It is a neat program, though. It has
> been
> around a long time and if it is part of AIM it would be a very recent
> acquisition.
>
>
> Hey all- just wanted to correct 2 things- WeatherBug is ABSOLUTELY not
> spyware and we are not a bandwidth hog.
>
> First, I just got back from NetWorld/Interop show in vegas where a lot
> of IT guys tested our program and found out that it uses absolutely
> minimal bandwidth- a 3rd party lab verified for our current version the
> following:
> The bandwidth consumption is:
> Foreground first 1 minute: up to 10kb/sec
> Foreground after 1 minute or Background: 39bits/sec.
> All the background and branding images are cached. If the user clicks
> on a Tab, it will load tiny Web pages and ads may rotate, this may
> increase the bandwidth in the short term, but after that it will use
> the same bandwidth as described above.
> Since most of the users bring WeatherBug to the foreground for only a
> short time, it should not cause any bandwidth issues with the network.
> > > >
> > >
>
> As for the spyware thing- it is 100% false. Let's forget the fact
> that we wouldn't get within 10 miles of InterOp with 18,000 IT pros
> if we had anything to do with spyware....here are some additional
> facts:
> For the record, spyware tracks web surfing activity and sometimes
> reads what is on the user’s hard drive. WeatherBug is not capable of
> tracking your overall web use or deciphering anything on your hard
> drive.
>
> I am not aware of a single spyware detector that lists us- even
> incorrectly- and my team and I test 30-40 of them EVERY SINGLE week.
> 1 or 2 of those 40 DO call us adware but they are going to be removing
> us- Norton started this misidentification about 3-4 months ago when
> they changed their definition of adware but we met with them and they
> should be chaning this. We serve NO Pop ads, and don't serve ads
> based on where you surf or send data to 3rd parties to serve ads.
>
> WeatherBug owns and operates the world’s largest network of weather
> stations and is one of the top 10 Internet properties in daily reach
> according to Media Metrix.
>
> Our data is:
> - viewed by over 80 million households a month, both on-line and
> off-line
> - accessible to The Department of Homeland Security for live,
> real-time plume modeling and weather data, in the event of an attack
> on our country, as well as having weather stations at 15 Coast Guard
> stations, the US Naval Academy, Quantico Marine Base and USAF
> Academy
> - used by dozens of city, county and state emergency managers in
> assessing the impact of current weather conditions on hazardous
> situations and natural disasters,
> - in 8,000 schools across the US, helping teach math, science and
> geography, along with our WeatherBug curriculum which won a
> Smithsonian Laureate and was selected by Media & Methods Magazine as
> 2002’s “Education Technology of the Year,”
> - used by meteorologists at over 100 TV stations to bring
> “neighborhood” weather forecasts and conditions to communities every
> day.
>
> NONE of those folks above, especially the military, would get
> anywhere near us if we were what some of the rumors say we are.
>
> Thanks for giving me a chance to reply and clear up any
> misconceptions. you can write me directly at jay@weatherbug.com if
> you have any questions.
>
> Thanks!
> Jay Hoffman
> WeatherBug Customer Support Manager


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