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How hot should an E6600 run?

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August 10, 2006 8:51:54 AM

I built my E6600-based machine last night using an Asus P5B motherboard (not the deluxe version) and the stock Intel cooler. According to the Asus utility the CPU is running at about 55 centigrade under light load. Is that normal? I expected it to be lower, but I really have no idea how hot or cold these things are supposed to run.

Also the graphics card, a 7600GT, runs at just over 60 centigrade. Is that too hot? It also seems a bit high to me.

It's summer here in the UK but it's really not that hot so it shouldn't affect the machine at all.

Apologoes if these are naive questions but I've spent a lot on this machine and I'm a bit paranoid!

Thanks

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August 10, 2006 10:11:26 AM

55 degrees sounds a bit on the hot side for light load, it shouldn't be doing any damage though, my athlon xp 3000+ used to run at 40-50 while my a64 4200 runs a 34-44, the gpu also sound a bit hot but no where near over heating. My 7800gt runs at 42-52. Have you got case fans? if not it would suggest adding some. also get the cables out of the way so they don't block airflow.
August 10, 2006 10:16:51 AM

Yay, my experiance has some relevance here.

Ok, stop what you are doing, it's time to reseat your cpu, heatsink and fan. Basicaly, I had the same problem first attempt I was getting 90 degrees, second I was getting 55-60 degrees, third attempt and fourth attempt both gave better results. I'm doing a burn in test now and the temp moves between 30-35 degrees. After extensive use during a hot summers day (yesterday) it rose to 40.

Basicaly, the 775 socket is designed terribly with intels heatsink and fan in mind. It does not go into place easily. You do NOT have a full contact between the cpu and heatsink. Terrible terrible deign. Not your fault. But if you leave it, you will be in the same position as me now. Nervous over any slight problem, wondering if your CPU is damaged.
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August 10, 2006 10:26:22 AM

Aha, that could be it. Two of the pins on the heatsink went 'click' when I pushed them in but two didn't. I pushed them quite hard but didn't want to damage the motherboard, and the HS seemed to be firmly attached so I just assumed that they had 'clicked' but just done it quietly.

The thermal contact goo on the bottom of the HS will have gone hard by now though. Do you think that will be a problem? Did you re-apply new thermal paste when you re-seated yours? I don't have any spare and won't be able to get any for a few days.

When I get home I'll be a bit more violent with those pins!

Regards
August 10, 2006 10:36:32 AM

Yes I went and got some cooler master paste. But I would have got some better stuff if it was available. It is amazingly tight to get it in there, I too was worried about breaking the board. Edit: must remove the old stuff no matter what.

Any idea how I can test my cpu for thermal damage? Just successfully run sisofts burn in test, got an overall pcmark05 score of 4500, 3dmark06 cpu score of 2100 but there is some stuttering some games. Whats the best way to test?
August 10, 2006 11:09:39 AM

If it is running you should be fine. The chips have a built in shut off if it gets to hot to prevent damage. Try Prime95 and run the torture test on it to sett if its stable, run it over night(6-8 hours). If it goes without erroring out you should be all set.
August 10, 2006 11:30:09 AM

I built my E6600 rig with an arctic cooling freezer 7 pro and some AS5 paste and am getting max temp of 36 under load. The cooler was a bit of a pain to fit and did require quite a bit of pressure.

You need some Isopropyl alcohol or some specialist stuff to get the harden paste off both CPU and Heatsink when you re-seat but if you dont clean either of them properly your wasting your time.
August 10, 2006 12:09:26 PM

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If it is running you should be fine. The chips have a built in shut off if it gets to hot to prevent damage. Try Prime95 and run the torture test on it to sett if its stable, run it over night(6-8 hours). If it goes without erroring out you should be all set.


Thanks, will do. I'm getting the feeling eveythings ok, but it all depends on the latest minor freeze in something, maybe I expect too much. Prime95, will give that a go. At least the cpu score for 3dmark 06 was in line with THG's test. I'm not the most nerve free person as it is, but a whole new computer with largly new technology that I have no experiance of is just asking for trouble with me.

Thanks for the advice, will set that going tonight :D  8)
August 10, 2006 12:58:56 PM

I've been hearing average idle temps with a good HSF should be low 30's to mid 30's, and load should be lower 40's to mid 40's... This is all with a decent HSF/Thermal paste and decent air-flow in case hopefully, and no overclocking. If your temp goes above 50, then something is probably wrong, although its nothing to be worried about. I forgot what the thermal limit of the Core 2 is, probably somewhere around 65 or so (Don't go past 65 for an extended period of time... like the redline of your car)
August 10, 2006 10:52:50 PM

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Yes I went and got some cooler master paste. But I would have got some better stuff if it was available. It is amazingly tight to get it in there, I too was worried about breaking the board. Edit: must remove the old stuff no matter what.

Any idea how I can test my cpu for thermal damage? Just successfully run sisofts burn in test, got an overall pcmark05 score of 4500, 3dmark06 cpu score of 2100 but there is some stuttering some games. Whats the best way to test?



It may not be the CPU. It sounds like your CPU is fine. How does it run non-game applications i.e word processor, internet browser etc?

-Your video card may have a problem.
-Your power supply may be insufficient to supply the video card under the high loads induced by games.
-you may (but shouldnt if you let the software set it) have your refresh rate set improperly
-If your using a LCD moniter (older), you may be running into refresh rate problems with that.

Peace
August 10, 2006 11:00:37 PM

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I built my E6600-based machine last night using an Asus P5B motherboard (not the deluxe version) and the stock Intel cooler. According to the Asus utility the CPU is running at about 55 centigrade under light load. Is that normal? I expected it to be lower, but I really have no idea how hot or cold these things are supposed to run.

Also the graphics card, a 7600GT, runs at just over 60 centigrade. Is that too hot? It also seems a bit high to me.

It's summer here in the UK but it's really not that hot so it shouldn't affect the machine at all.

Apologoes if these are naive questions but I've spent a lot on this machine and I'm a bit paranoid!

Thanks


Hi, 50C even on the stock cooler sounds too high. From Intels specs it should be ok up too 60C but your very close. I have an E6600 and at stock it didnt get above 35C at full load for an hour. At idle it was 29C. Even OC i have only seen my e6600 reach 40C at full load and it idels at 31C. I have very good cooling and am using a huge aftermarket cooler. Maybe its worth you investing in one it only cost me £25. You might want to try reseating you cooler with some better thermal paste as well.

Oh my X1900Xt gets up too 80C! but is a HIS so its OC to the max :p 
August 10, 2006 11:21:59 PM

I have an E6400 and it idles around 30 Celsius, w/ a 3.2Ghz OC, so yeah I think yours is running a bit hot.

... scythe mine cooler on mine :) 
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August 11, 2006 12:42:26 AM

I also have a 4200+ and it idles at 25 C with C&Q enabled and full-bore it gets to 42-45 C with 2500 rpm on the HSF in both cases. The 4200+ can go up to 71 C.

Graphics cards can get and stand to be very warm. My 6200TC with just a heatsink ('cause it's so little) idles at about 45-55 C and gets up to about 65-70 under load. It can go up to 145 C according to NVIDIA.
August 11, 2006 5:04:13 AM

my e6700 idles around 25C, so 55C is WAAAAAAAYYYY too hot for a C2D, reseat it ASAP, use some arctic silver 5 thermal compound, and make sure you install the heatsink and fan properly. ;) 
August 11, 2006 5:38:47 AM

E6600 w. Scythe Ninja runs between 30-ish and 40-ish. Those temps seem ever so slightly on the high side, but I haven't tried the Intel stock cooler, and if Intel think it can run at a safe temperature with that small heat pad with their own cooling solution then I'd be inclined to say it's perfectly okay.
August 11, 2006 5:55:12 AM

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Aha, that could be it. Two of the pins on the heatsink went 'click' when I pushed them in but two didn't. I pushed them quite hard but didn't want to damage the motherboard, and the HS seemed to be firmly attached so I just assumed that they had 'clicked' but just done it quietly.

The thermal contact goo on the bottom of the HS will have gone hard by now though. Do you think that will be a problem? Did you re-apply new thermal paste when you re-seated yours? I don't have any spare and won't be able to get any for a few days.

When I get home I'll be a bit more violent with those pins!

Regards



This is the best way to remove old thermal paste,I've used it several times and it works quite well

http://hardwarelogic.com/news/118/ARTICLE/1154/2006-04-...

It's called Arctic Clean and its cheap enough...the 2 bottle kit will last be enought to clean residual compond for years
August 11, 2006 6:26:14 AM

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E6600 w. Scythe Ninja runs between 30-ish and 40-ish. Those temps seem ever so slightly on the high side, but I haven't tried the Intel stock cooler, and if Intel think it can run at a safe temperature with that small heat pad with their own cooling solution then I'd be inclined to say it's perfectly okay.


my scythe keeps my e6700 idle at 25C man... if you are running 30-40Cish... you're running hot...
August 11, 2006 7:01:04 AM

I think a 5 degree difference at idle isn't exactly 'running hot'. I'm using crappy heat paste (gonna get some AS5 at some stage).
August 11, 2006 10:02:55 AM

Well I've ordered some Arctic Silver 5 and I should have it by Monday. I guess I'll just have to make sure that I don't do anything too CPU-intensive until then!

Thanks for the info people.

Regards
August 12, 2006 5:38:20 AM

Hey my e6600 with ninja idles around 48 C. Is this considered too hot? What would happen if I keep running it like this? I had this pc on for about 6 hours now.
August 12, 2006 4:36:52 PM

My e6600 with Samurai Z cooler in Tsunami case, I also enable SpeedStep that put multipler to x6 instead of default x9 when not loaded. 30C idle 42C under load. It's in a cool morning. If ambient temperature is higher than both might increase about 3C.
August 12, 2006 6:38:47 PM

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Hey my e6600 with ninja idles around 48 C. Is this considered too hot? What would happen if I keep running it like this? I had this pc on for about 6 hours now.


WAAAAY too hot for a 6600 with a scythe ninja... my e6700 with a ninja idles at 24-25C... you should really take the heatsink off, reseat the CPU, and reattach the ninja using some arctic silver 5 thermal compound.
August 12, 2006 6:39:47 PM

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My e6600 with Samurai Z cooler in Tsunami case, I also enable SpeedStep that put multipler to x6 instead of default x9 when not loaded. 30C idle 42C under load. It's in a cool morning. If ambient temperature is higher than both might increase about 3C.


30C seems about right for an average to above average cooler.
August 12, 2006 6:47:07 PM

You guys should include room temps (if possible), just incase.

I mean, if your room is 80F+ (no AC) and comparing it to someones nice 68-70F Air Conditioned room, that will effect HSF cooling.
August 13, 2006 4:05:51 AM

I did that actually. But the thing with ninja is that I'm not sure if the fan should sit vertically or horizontally(looking at it from the top view of MOBO) ? I got a new tube of artic silver 5 so that's no problem.
By the way, I found out that I didn't take off the plastic cover thing from the HeatSink lol so I took it out and it lowered it down to around 35-40 now. Still too hot tho right? My room is hot tho. No AC but just a fan next to me and my PC.

By the way, my PC Probe tells me that my powerfan is under the threshold. Which one is powerfan anyways? lol and how to fix?
August 13, 2006 6:07:50 AM

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I did that actually. But the thing with ninja is that I'm not sure if the fan should sit vertically or horizontally(looking at it from the top view of MOBO) ? I got a new tube of artic silver 5 so that's no problem.
By the way, I found out that I didn't take off the plastic cover thing from the HeatSink lol so I took it out and it lowered it down to around 35-40 now. Still too hot tho right? My room is hot tho. No AC but just a fan next to me and my PC.

By the way, my PC Probe tells me that my powerfan is under the threshold. Which one is powerfan anyways? lol and how to fix?

Silly you, thous temps sound a lot better and should be fine. asus pc probe always seems to say power fan below threshold even if its blowing air out the back, just ignore it.
August 13, 2006 8:00:48 AM

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You guys should include room temps (if possible), just incase.

I mean, if your room is 80F+ (no AC) and comparing it to someones nice 68-70F Air Conditioned room, that will effect HSF cooling.


I know.... seriously. My room is probably 85 - 90F if not hotter (Dorm room + Summer + no AC + 4 desktops and 2 laptops = HOT)

case temp is 42C... and thats with a 120mm fan blowing in from the front and 90mm from side. P4 temp idling is 51C (I'm too afraid to play games)
August 13, 2006 9:32:22 AM

mine runs at 40 under idel i discovered the gigabyte easy turn reported wrong i have got a stock cooler and used artic silver 5, this seems to high to me ?????
August 13, 2006 10:26:34 AM

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Basicaly, the 775 socket is designed terribly with intels heatsink and fan in mind. It does not go into place easily. You do NOT have a full contact between the cpu and heatsink. Terrible terrible deign. Not your fault. But if you leave it, you will be in the same position as me now. Nervous over any slight problem, wondering if your CPU is damaged.


After 10-15 LGA775 heatsink installations this terrible design becomes an usual thing. Even simpler than S754/939. It is always easier to push the pins, when you hold the motherboard in the air, because they do not resist against the table.
August 13, 2006 12:27:45 PM

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I did that actually. But the thing with ninja is that I'm not sure if the fan should sit vertically or horizontally(looking at it from the top view of MOBO) ? I got a new tube of artic silver 5 so that's no problem.
By the way, I found out that I didn't take off the plastic cover thing from the HeatSink lol so I took it out and it lowered it down to around 35-40 now. Still too hot tho right? My room is hot tho. No AC but just a fan next to me and my PC.

By the way, my PC Probe tells me that my powerfan is under the threshold. Which one is powerfan anyways? lol and how to fix?


fan should be on the side of the Ninja... did you read the installation instructions??
August 17, 2006 5:20:03 AM

I have had my E6600 running for about an hr.

My Asus MB tells me the temp is 42 degrees C

Is this too high / will the temp lower in a few hours once the termal grease has sunk in?

I am using AS5 with a Sycthe Ninja.

I have already tried reseating the HS & fan /Reapplied thermal paste

Thanks
August 17, 2006 5:26:50 AM

From Arctic silvers website:

Important Reminder:
Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.


So keep that in mind when you use your computer, you have to turn it off every once in awhile to make sure it cures properly. I personally do not know if it makes that big of a difference or not, but I would try to follow what it says.

E6600 was just ordered 1 hour ago so it should be here Monday (2 day shipping). I will see what mine runs at.
August 17, 2006 12:52:29 PM

Morning,

My new E6600 Rig with the P5B runs at about 43C Idol. I have coolmaster RR-LCH-P9E1 and my room temp is about 79F so it seems about right to me. The coolmaster is not as Uber as the Ninja and I don’t currently have Artic Silver 5 applied right now. Ambient temps have a big impact on the cooling capacity for any cooling solution.

NewEgg Coolmaster

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August 17, 2006 2:11:48 PM

Do you guys think its worth just cleaning off the thermal paste and trying it one more time to see if i get better results?
August 17, 2006 2:13:14 PM

mite as well try, got nuffing to lose
August 17, 2006 4:57:57 PM

OK I gave it another shot. I'm at 38C now when i power on my machine.

I seriously dont think I can take this thing off again and redo it for the 10th time. Is this an ok temp if i dont overclock?
August 17, 2006 6:14:50 PM

38C sounds ok, depends on your room temp. Maybe your case is not ventilated properly, are there enough case fans and are they blowing air OUT of the case? My room temp is around 32-33, and with stock cooler (nightmare to set up, almost whacked out my mobo), my idle temps used to be 36-38 but my case is not that roomy and my bloody Antec PSU has too many wires all over the place (it's a spaghetti mess)...when I overclocked the E6600 to 3.0Ghz, CPU temps were 40-42 idle and running Prime95, it goes up into the mid-50s, shocking if you consider that the Conroes are supposed to be more heat-efficient....even my previous X2 4600+ never went beyond 50 seriously OC'd...

Anyway, I changed my fan to a Zalman9500 where the fan is perpendicular to the board and blows air out of the case fan at the side-back of the case and temps have dropped almost 5C. It was a pain to install though...had to take out the mobo and install a backplate to the back of the board, you might want to get another fan (preferably one that does not require you to install a backplate) if you get worried about temps...