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August 11, 2006 4:07:29 AM

Is RAID 0 Really worth the extra money?

I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s - OEM

It was $100. Should I get another one and run Striping RAID with 320s?

Is it worth it for me? And is there that much of a performance boost?...If so how noticable is it, does it load windows, games, ect alot faster?


Please share your knowledge and opinions. :) 

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August 11, 2006 4:27:45 AM

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Is RAID 0 Really worth the extra money?

I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s - OEM

It was $100. Should I get another one and run Striping RAID with 320s?

Is it worth it for me? And is there that much of a performance boost?...If so how noticable is it, does it load windows, games, ect alot faster?


Please share your knowledge and opinions. :) 


Minimal speed boost +/- 3-4% on most apps.

Mirror for data redundency - for $100 it's damn cheap insurance.
August 11, 2006 4:44:58 AM

I noticed a nice improvement with two spinpoint 250's on my mobo's nvraid. Games do load quicker and extracting zip's is a LOT quicker. Moving large amounts of data to my fileservers is easier, I can send to 2 at a time and still saturate their gig links (I have dual gig on my machine into a cisco 3560) :) 

Data redundancy is not a point to consider unless you beat up your machine, I've had raid 0's running for many years without a problem, get good drives and you have nothing to worry about. Oh yeah, BACKUP, raid1 is NOT a backup!
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August 11, 2006 1:59:48 PM

Quote:
Is RAID 0 Really worth the extra money?

I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s - OEM

It was $100. Should I get another one and run Striping RAID with 320s?

Is it worth it for me? And is there that much of a performance boost?...If so how noticable is it, does it load windows, games, ect alot faster?


Please share your knowledge and opinions. :) 


Usually you don't hear people asking if raid 0 is worth the money. I would say a majority of us have more than just a straight drive, meaning more than one in a raid. I would say Raid itself is worth it, then I would say raid 0 is great, but if you have no proactive way of backing up data, whether it be nightly or weekly, then your just risking all that data for only less than 10% performance increase. Raid 0+1 is worth the money, as well as 5 & 10. But still I would advise you back up your data someplace off your current system. NAS's and larger external drives are cheap and great for umbrella insurances that would complement raid 0. Remember, controllers fail just as much as drives do.
August 11, 2006 2:34:32 PM

These fools that say there is only a minimal speed boost have been smoking something. There is a huge speed boost as far as loading apps/games and transferring files. Each disk is only moving half of the data so, together they can move the same amount of data in half the time. I would say thats a big difference. Like the other guy said, buy the other disk for the increase in space and enjoy the benefit of more speed also.
August 11, 2006 2:41:24 PM

I may be smoking something, BUT I ant no fool. :lol:  The average test still only show 10% improvement over straight disk, but that 10% is limited to the type of drive the test was on. Just remember those numbers are applied system wide ( just not really on gaming).
August 11, 2006 2:42:57 PM

I recently used three of those 320gb drives for my new Raid 0 and I can say I have been impressed by the load times for my games as well as the speed at which my larger files have been opening.
August 11, 2006 2:47:57 PM

It never works out to moving twice the data in the same time, at least not in practice. In theory, perhaps, but rarely in real life.

Personally I've stopped messing with it because the increase in performance for my uses are minimal and not worth the effort or cost.
August 11, 2006 7:46:59 PM

If your looking for gaming performance then RAID will not produce any noticable difference to you. You may have some befefit in loading games (not playing, not frame rates, just level loading) but its going to be marginal with respect to the $$ you put into it. If you go RAID 0 then you also consider the problem that if just 1 of your drives goes bad, you lose all your data.

Now, if you want data redundancy, a completely different reason to have RAID, you may go with a RAID 5 solution or something similar but thats a bit of a different setup.

Bottom line, Period, RAID is not where you want to throw your $$ with respect to gaming. In fact, RAID really isnt a performance enhancer at heart (in my opinion), its more geared towards data redundancy. If you dont believe me please search this forum, this is like the 20th time there has been a thread on this subject and they all conclude the same thing.

Cheers...
August 11, 2006 7:49:33 PM

Get yourself a nice 10k 16mb buffer WD Raptor. Nice drive, wicked fast. I would personally throw my $$ at a raptor before considering RAID 0 :) 

Just my opinion...
August 11, 2006 9:01:21 PM

And I would throw it at a couple of my spinpoint 250's in RAID0, 6 months and going strong, and it's faster than a single raptor.

Seriously, if you want this for gaming, a hard drive crash (very unlikely) isn't a huge concern as long as you backup.

Plus it's cheaper for 500GB than getting a 500GB HD.
August 11, 2006 10:41:49 PM

I think RAID 0 for space is a big bonus, and the speed is also good. I'm getting 2 WD 250gig SE 16 RAID editions and putting em in RAID 0. If i were to get raptors which i probably wouldn't considering the price i would only buy one since i don't need that speed or price. I would buy a single raptor and a storage drive with about 320 gigs.
August 11, 2006 10:53:01 PM

Well for a basic raid 0 get 2 80Gb 7200rpm drive and set it up. Then use your 320 as your backup and storage.
August 11, 2006 11:00:29 PM

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Well for a basic raid 0 get 2 80Gb 7200rpm drive and set it up. Then use your 320 as your backup and storage.


For very basic raid yes, but also bigger disks perform better since info is closer to the edge of the disk and is accessed faster. 250gig or 320's are best for this. After that they just add platters and price :wink:
August 12, 2006 5:48:13 PM

nice post
I was initially thinking that I would do RAID 0 and have crazy boost in performance. but sounds like people are saying do RAID 0 is SPACE first and SPEED is bonus.

so I am going to use my 250GB - 7200Rpm, 16MB, 3gb/sec SATA as primary
(RAID1) and a little older 114GB IDE as backup.

nothing fancy..but it will float by boat.
August 12, 2006 6:25:31 PM

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nice post
I was initially thinking that I would do RAID 0 and have crazy boost in performance. but sounds like people are saying do RAID 0 is SPACE first and SPEED is bonus.

so I am going to use my 250GB - 7200Rpm, 16MB, 3gb/sec SATA as primary
(RAID1) and a little older 114GB IDE as backup.

nothing fancy..but it will float by boat.


For a total of 3? I'm just not quite sure what you said. I think you mean 2 250gigs and another disk right? because you can't use 2 different disks in RAID 1
August 12, 2006 6:28:12 PM

eek
that's not what what I meant to say
-basically
1 SATA drive
1 IDE - as backup
August 12, 2006 6:41:03 PM

Then you aren't doing RAID1 right?
August 12, 2006 6:42:00 PM

Quote:
eek
that's not what what I meant to say
-basically
1 SATA drive
1 IDE - as backup


Well with that you won't be able to do RAID of any kind. You might want to just do JBOD, and move important files on to the back up drive. Not as convienient as RAID 1, but gets the job done. :wink:
August 12, 2006 6:53:08 PM

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And I would throw it at a couple of my spinpoint 250's in RAID0, 6 months and going strong, and it's faster than a single raptor.

Seriously, if you want this for gaming, a hard drive crash (very unlikely) isn't a huge concern as long as you backup.

Plus it's cheaper for 500GB than getting a 500GB HD.



It aint faster then a 150 GB Raptor ........maybe they can keep up, but beat a 10K raptor? :lol: 
I've got a 36 GB raptor for the moment, but my next build WILL include a single 150GB Raptor rather then 2 midrange drives in raid...
For data storage (games porn movies...etc... , I got :
1 Maxtor Onetouch 3 Turbo (1TB)
1 Maxtor Onetouch 2 (300 GB)
2 Maxtor Onetouch (250 GB)
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Internal drives
1 WD Raptor 36 GB
1 WD 160 GB
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Maybe its cheaper , but there IS a real chance your array will crash......
If you dont need alot of storage , but pure performance , better go for a single raptor...
August 12, 2006 7:07:25 PM

thanks for the tip
and yes you're correct, its not RAID at all.
August 12, 2006 9:46:08 PM

I shall refer you here:

Keeps on par with wussy and his cheetahs

His array is faster than any two raptors, and mine keeps very close, the only sore point is accesstime, which if you are only transfering a bunch of media files, is irrelivant.
August 13, 2006 7:26:34 AM

Same card as my 2320, just different connectors, I only have 4 WD 320's, need to get me 4 more!
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