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August 12, 2006 5:40:02 AM

I'm thinking about getting new speakers, and I'm trying to keep overall costs - w/o SH, under 100$ if possiable.

What do you guys think about this set?
Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

any other suggestions?

Also, if I get a set of new speakers, do you guys think I should get a should card also? Will onboard be good enough or will teh speakers sould like crap?

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August 12, 2006 6:28:36 AM

Most sound cards you could buy, with the exception of the X-Fi would not provide a noticeable improvement over modern onbard sound. If you do have the money for a sound card, you would be much better off to it towards a better pair of speakers.

For the price you pay, the x-530's are good entry level speakers. If you want a nicer set that isn't too much more, check out the logitech Z-5300e's, should be about 150@.
August 12, 2006 9:44:49 AM

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Most sound cards you could buy, with the exception of the X-Fi would not provide a noticeable improvement over modern onbard sound. If you do have the money for a sound card, you would be much better off to it towards a better pair of speakers.

For the price you pay, the x-530's are good entry level speakers. If you want a nicer set that isn't too much more, check out the logitech Z-5300e's, should be about 150@.


I tend to disagree with that, believing you have it in reverse. Most sound cards, including the X-Fi will provide a noticable improvment in sound quality when paired with anything but the cheapest of PC speakers. A SoundBlaster Live! paired with those X-530's will likely sound better than those X-530's paired with SoundMax or Realtek onboard sound, especially if using the onboard sound's analog outputs that are highly susceptible to noise infection from other components on the motherboard.

Is onboard sound passable? Absolutely, IMO. Would I ever consider using it? No. Not when some of the most capable sound cards can be had for ~$25 (Chaintech AV-710: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... ). Even if you're into gaming a dedicated soundcard like the Audigy SE 7.1 can be had for ~$30 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... ).

I don't believe that the majority of onboard audio chipsets can successfully compete with either of these.

Speakers, likely gaming speakers @ ~ $100? As Stealth wrote, I'd say spend $15 more and consider these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683... . They likely offer a noticable improvement over the X-530 set.

Edit: This made me want to listen to my SB Live! (not Live! 5.1 or 24, just flat SB Live! ...an old card). With it plugged into the outboard SpitFire DAC and using the Sennheiser headphones I can't tell the difference between it and the X-Fi, at all (with pure stereo audio). When using the Live!'s DACs with the headphones plugged directly into the card's Front outputs it's really hard to tell the difference, the X-Fi is just a little smoother with more detail. ...but certainly not $100 smoother. Still, either card outpaces onboard sound in areas like S/N ratio and THD as far as DACs are concerned. If the onboard offers digital output and that output is used, Stealth_Blade, you may indeed be correct, perhaps there is no audible difference.
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August 12, 2006 5:41:42 PM

Thanks, I meant to say that the soundcard and speakers together would cost only 100$ without SH. My bad on the confusion. That means I'm going to be getting the x-530's? Anyone have personal experiances with it? How's it sound?
August 12, 2006 6:37:12 PM

I've not heard them before but just about any 5.1 system will give decent you positional audio for games. The X-530's may leave some to be desired for movies or music, but at the price you're likely not expecting perfection. Again, take a look at the Audigy SE 7.1 or the Chaintech AV-710.
August 12, 2006 7:32:33 PM

Its always fun to get new toys. Enjoy. :) 
August 12, 2006 7:55:27 PM

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alright thanks alot, I;m probably gonna order



Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...


dont get that soundcard, u can get audigy 4 oem for 40$

As a "noob" I'm not sure he'll want to spend more for a card with less software/support...but he may...it is a normally much higher-priced card.
August 13, 2006 1:56:50 PM

my friend has and he says he likes it alot. Ive heard them and they sound pretty descent.
August 13, 2006 2:58:19 PM

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my friend has and he says he likes it alot. Ive heard them and they sound pretty descent.


Which card?
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