Post Upgrade and trouble with DNS Registering

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

Dear Ace:
upgraded my NT4 PDC to w2kadv ad integrated DNS
today.
I still have these errors and am not sure If I should yank the
dns server and reinstall that or what.
Honest DNS is there and running, I can ping jewelntserver,
jewelntserver.jewelconsulting.org,
but I can't ping jewelntserver.org (the domain).

only one nic in the machine.

it passes the first simple DNS test, but the recursive
test fails, but thats meaningless because there is no way for the
machine to get out to the internet yet, it and its clients
are all on one lan on the 10 subnet.

I dont know how to follow the instructions given in the
second error message. I dont know how to add
these records.


I have deleted the (.) root zone.


Here is an ipconfig readout.

C:\winnt:ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jewelntserver
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : jewelconsulting.org
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DE-530+ PCI Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-C1-FB
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50

C:\winnt:


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5781
Date: 6/25/2004
Time: 4:20:50 PM
User: N/A
Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed
because no DNS servers are available.
Data:
0000: b4 05 00 00 ´...


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5773
Date: 6/25/2004
Time: 4:25:52 PM
User: N/A
Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
Description:
The DNS server for this DC does not support dynamic DNS.
Add the DNS records from the file
'%SystemRoot%\System32\Config\netlogon.dns'
to the DNS server serving the domain referenced in that file.
Data:
0000: 2c 23 00 00 ,#..


also my dde service is hanging on start but ends up running.

and for some reason w2kadv disables write caching
on drive C, is that normal?

Thank you,
James W. Long


--
James W. Long
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More about post upgrade trouble registering
  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    In news:o8mdnRxzCJ-EPkHdRVn-hg@wideopenwest.com,
    James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    mine
    > Dear Ace:
    > upgraded my NT4 PDC to w2kadv ad integrated DNS
    > today.
    > I still have these errors and am not sure If I should yank the
    > dns server and reinstall that or what.
    > Honest DNS is there and running, I can ping jewelntserver,
    > jewelntserver.jewelconsulting.org,
    > but I can't ping jewelntserver.org (the domain).
    >
    > only one nic in the machine.
    >
    > it passes the first simple DNS test, but the recursive
    > test fails, but thats meaningless because there is no way for the
    > machine to get out to the internet yet, it and its clients
    > are all on one lan on the 10 subnet.
    >
    > I dont know how to follow the instructions given in the
    > second error message. I dont know how to add
    > these records.
    >
    >
    > I have deleted the (.) root zone.
    >
    >
    > Here is an ipconfig readout.
    >
    > C:\winnt:ipconfig /all
    >
    > Windows 2000 IP Configuration
    >
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jewelntserver
    > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    >
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : jewelconsulting.org
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DE-530+ PCI
    > Ethernet Adapter
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-C1-FB
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    >
    > C:\winnt:
    >
    >
    >
    > Event Type: Warning
    > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > Event Category: None
    > Event ID: 5781
    > Date: 6/25/2004
    > Time: 4:20:50 PM
    > User: N/A
    > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > Description:
    > Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
    > failed because no DNS servers are available.
    > Data:
    > 0000: b4 05 00 00 ´...
    >
    >
    > Event Type: Warning
    > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > Event Category: None
    > Event ID: 5773
    > Date: 6/25/2004
    > Time: 4:25:52 PM
    > User: N/A
    > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > Description:
    > The DNS server for this DC does not support dynamic DNS.
    > Add the DNS records from the file
    > '%SystemRoot%\System32\Config\netlogon.dns'
    > to the DNS server serving the domain referenced in that file.
    > Data:
    > 0000: 2c 23 00 00 ,#..
    >
    >
    > also my dde service is hanging on start but ends up running.
    >
    > and for some reason w2kadv disables write caching
    > on drive C, is that normal?
    >
    > Thank you,
    > James W. Long


    If you're getting these two errors and not being able to ping
    jewelntserver.org, then its telling me the LdapIpAddress, which looks like:

    jewelconsulting.org
    (same as parent) A 10.0.050

    appear to be missing and tells me that registration is not occuring.

    You don't manually add those records. The Netlogon service does that for
    you.

    Main question: Did you allow updates on the zone?

    As for the recursive test, you need a Forwarder for that to pass. You also
    need a default gateway to get to the forwarder, so when you do allow
    Internet connectivity, that test will pass.

    James, want me to remote into this thing?


    --
    Regards,
    Ace

    Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    rights.

    Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

    HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    pig. --
    =================================
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    woa I better back up.

    first I had to enable dynamic updates.
    I determined it was a just a standard primary zone.
    I restarted net logon.
    - bang got all the info.
    then I set the zone as ad integrated.
    so I see "default first zone name" in some places.
    (are those ok to leave as is?)
    many less error messages now, many less. just a few remain.

    why would dde hang in a start pending state?
    best I can figgure is it wasnt started when it was needed
    but subsequently suceeded. how can I fix that?

    and that one about irpstacksize really bothers me.
    I cranked it up 4 notches, no difference.

    I hope I am on the right track.

    Thanks
    James W. Long.


    "James W. Long" <JamesLong@wowway.com> wrote in message
    news:o8mdnRxzCJ-EPkHdRVn-hg@wideopenwest.com...
    >
    > Dear Ace:
    > upgraded my NT4 PDC to w2kadv ad integrated DNS
    > today.
    > I still have these errors and am not sure If I should yank the
    > dns server and reinstall that or what.
    > Honest DNS is there and running, I can ping jewelntserver,
    > jewelntserver.jewelconsulting.org,
    > but I can't ping jewelntserver.org (the domain).
    >
    > only one nic in the machine.
    >
    > it passes the first simple DNS test, but the recursive
    > test fails, but thats meaningless because there is no way for the
    > machine to get out to the internet yet, it and its clients
    > are all on one lan on the 10 subnet.
    >
    > I dont know how to follow the instructions given in the
    > second error message. I dont know how to add
    > these records.
    >
    >
    > I have deleted the (.) root zone.
    >
    >
    > Here is an ipconfig readout.
    >
    > C:\winnt:ipconfig /all
    >
    > Windows 2000 IP Configuration
    >
    > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jewelntserver
    > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    >
    > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    >
    > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : jewelconsulting.org
    > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DE-530+ PCI Ethernet
    > Adapter
    > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-C1-FB
    > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    >
    > C:\winnt:
    >
    >
    >
    > Event Type: Warning
    > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > Event Category: None
    > Event ID: 5781
    > Date: 6/25/2004
    > Time: 4:20:50 PM
    > User: N/A
    > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > Description:
    > Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed
    > because no DNS servers are available.
    > Data:
    > 0000: b4 05 00 00 ´...
    >
    >
    > Event Type: Warning
    > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > Event Category: None
    > Event ID: 5773
    > Date: 6/25/2004
    > Time: 4:25:52 PM
    > User: N/A
    > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > Description:
    > The DNS server for this DC does not support dynamic DNS.
    > Add the DNS records from the file
    > '%SystemRoot%\System32\Config\netlogon.dns'
    > to the DNS server serving the domain referenced in that file.
    > Data:
    > 0000: 2c 23 00 00 ,#..
    >
    >
    > also my dde service is hanging on start but ends up running.
    >
    > and for some reason w2kadv disables write caching
    > on drive C, is that normal?
    >
    > Thank you,
    > James W. Long
    >
    >
    > --
    > James W. Long
    >
    >
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    no I got it mostly,
    read my next post

    we musta posted almost same exact time

    :-)

    James W. Long

    "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
    <PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
    message news:%23FqVQhwWEHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    > In news:o8mdnRxzCJ-EPkHdRVn-hg@wideopenwest.com,
    > James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    > mine
    > > Dear Ace:
    > > upgraded my NT4 PDC to w2kadv ad integrated DNS
    > > today.
    > > I still have these errors and am not sure If I should yank the
    > > dns server and reinstall that or what.
    > > Honest DNS is there and running, I can ping jewelntserver,
    > > jewelntserver.jewelconsulting.org,
    > > but I can't ping jewelntserver.org (the domain).
    > >
    > > only one nic in the machine.
    > >
    > > it passes the first simple DNS test, but the recursive
    > > test fails, but thats meaningless because there is no way for the
    > > machine to get out to the internet yet, it and its clients
    > > are all on one lan on the 10 subnet.
    > >
    > > I dont know how to follow the instructions given in the
    > > second error message. I dont know how to add
    > > these records.
    > >
    > >
    > > I have deleted the (.) root zone.
    > >
    > >
    > > Here is an ipconfig readout.
    > >
    > > C:\winnt:ipconfig /all
    > >
    > > Windows 2000 IP Configuration
    > >
    > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : jewelntserver
    > > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : jewelconsulting.org
    > >
    > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    > >
    > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : jewelconsulting.org
    > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DE-530+ PCI
    > > Ethernet Adapter
    > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-C1-FB
    > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.50
    > >
    > > C:\winnt:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Event Type: Warning
    > > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > > Event Category: None
    > > Event ID: 5781
    > > Date: 6/25/2004
    > > Time: 4:20:50 PM
    > > User: N/A
    > > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > > Description:
    > > Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records
    > > failed because no DNS servers are available.
    > > Data:
    > > 0000: b4 05 00 00 ´...
    > >
    > >
    > > Event Type: Warning
    > > Event Source: NETLOGON
    > > Event Category: None
    > > Event ID: 5773
    > > Date: 6/25/2004
    > > Time: 4:25:52 PM
    > > User: N/A
    > > Computer: JEWELNTSERVER
    > > Description:
    > > The DNS server for this DC does not support dynamic DNS.
    > > Add the DNS records from the file
    > > '%SystemRoot%\System32\Config\netlogon.dns'
    > > to the DNS server serving the domain referenced in that file.
    > > Data:
    > > 0000: 2c 23 00 00 ,#..
    > >
    > >
    > > also my dde service is hanging on start but ends up running.
    > >
    > > and for some reason w2kadv disables write caching
    > > on drive C, is that normal?
    > >
    > > Thank you,
    > > James W. Long
    >
    >
    > If you're getting these two errors and not being able to ping
    > jewelntserver.org, then its telling me the LdapIpAddress, which looks
    like:
    >
    > jewelconsulting.org
    > (same as parent) A 10.0.050
    >
    > appear to be missing and tells me that registration is not occuring.
    >
    > You don't manually add those records. The Netlogon service does that for
    > you.
    >
    > Main question: Did you allow updates on the zone?
    >
    > As for the recursive test, you need a Forwarder for that to pass. You also
    > need a default gateway to get to the forwarder, so when you do allow
    > Internet connectivity, that test will pass.
    >
    > James, want me to remote into this thing?
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Ace
    >
    > Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    > rights.
    >
    > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    > Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
    >
    > HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    > pig. --
    > =================================
    >
    >
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    In news:l9mdnRDMhbL5LUHd4p2dnA@wideopenwest.com,
    James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    mine
    > woa I better back up.
    >
    > first I had to enable dynamic updates.
    > I determined it was a just a standard primary zone.
    > I restarted net logon.
    > - bang got all the info.
    > then I set the zone as ad integrated.
    > so I see "default first zone name" in some places.
    > (are those ok to leave as is?)
    > many less error messages now, many less. just a few remain.
    >
    > why would dde hang in a start pending state?
    > best I can figgure is it wasnt started when it was needed
    > but subsequently suceeded. how can I fix that?
    >
    > and that one about irpstacksize really bothers me.
    > I cranked it up 4 notches, no difference.
    >
    > I hope I am on the right track.
    >
    > Thanks
    > James W. Long.
    >
    >

    IPStacksize? DDE? What are the event id #s?


    --
    Regards,
    Ace

    Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    rights.

    Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

    HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    pig. --
    =================================
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    Dear Ace:


    Had to change it to native mode also like you said.

    just 2 errs now. tracking....

    :-)

    that dde error is 7022.


    "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
    <PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
    message news:eB$Gx2wWEHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    > In news:l9mdnRDMhbL5LUHd4p2dnA@wideopenwest.com,
    > James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    > mine
    > > woa I better back up.
    > >
    > > first I had to enable dynamic updates.
    > > I determined it was a just a standard primary zone.
    > > I restarted net logon.
    > > - bang got all the info.
    > > then I set the zone as ad integrated.
    > > so I see "default first zone name" in some places.
    > > (are those ok to leave as is?)
    > > many less error messages now, many less. just a few remain.
    > >
    > > why would dde hang in a start pending state?
    > > best I can figgure is it wasnt started when it was needed
    > > but subsequently suceeded. how can I fix that?
    > >
    > > and that one about irpstacksize really bothers me.
    > > I cranked it up 4 notches, no difference.
    > >
    > > I hope I am on the right track.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > James W. Long.
    > >
    > >
    >
    > IPStacksize? DDE? What are the event id #s?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Ace
    >
    > Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    > rights.
    >
    > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    > Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
    >
    > HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    > pig. --
    > =================================
    >
    >
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    In news:9-ydndHGE5DXVEHdRVn-uA@wideopenwest.com,
    James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    mine
    > Dear Ace:
    >
    >
    > Had to change it to native mode also like you said.
    >
    > just 2 errs now. tracking....
    >
    > :-)
    >
    > that dde error is 7022.


    HI James,

    Did you check www.eventid.net ?

    http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7022&eventno=111&source=Service%20Control%20Manager&phase=1

    --
    Regards,
    Ace

    Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    rights.

    Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

    HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    pig. --
    =================================
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    Ace:
    Nice Link!
    Thank you!
    James
    {burnt for tonight}

    "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
    <PleaseSubstituteMyActualFirstName&LastNameHere@hotmail.com> wrote in
    message news:ebrnqVzWEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    > In news:9-ydndHGE5DXVEHdRVn-uA@wideopenwest.com,
    > James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    > mine
    > > Dear Ace:
    > >
    > >
    > > Had to change it to native mode also like you said.
    > >
    > > just 2 errs now. tracking....
    > >
    > > :-)
    > >
    > > that dde error is 7022.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > HI James,
    >
    > Did you check www.eventid.net ?
    >
    >
    http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7022&eventno=111&source=Service%20Control%20Manager&phase=1
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    > Ace
    >
    > Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    > rights.
    >
    > Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    > Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
    >
    > HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    > pig. --
    > =================================
    >
    >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

    In news:rc2dnSIpof6nnUDdRVn-jA@wideopenwest.com,
    James W. Long <JamesLong@wowway.com> posted their thoughts, then I offered
    mine
    > Ace:
    > Nice Link!
    > Thank you!
    > James
    > {burnt for tonight}
    >

    Yes, heading to bed!

    --
    Regards,
    Ace

    Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties and confers no
    rights.

    Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
    Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

    HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken; A lifetime commitment for a
    pig. --
    =================================
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