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Radeon X1900 XT 512MB VS GeForce 6900 GT KO 512MB

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August 13, 2006 7:43:24 PM

Which card do you guys think is better. Does the extra memory on the cards really matter performance wise?

the Radeon or the GeForce



I like the fact that the GeForce is a single slot. But I heard AVIVO makes Radeons look really nice. My current card is a 6800GT 256MB.
August 13, 2006 7:47:23 PM

I would go with Nvidia, but both are extremely good. Im just an Nvidia fan.
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2006 7:49:20 PM

The X1900XT is a far superior card, it's about equal to the 7900GTX not the 7900GT.

I actually don't understand people liking single slot coolers unless it is all they can use in their system. The dual slot X1900 cooler blows all the hot air out of the case, this single slot 7900GT circulates all the heat into the case.

Other issues cancel each other out. 7900GT burns less power and makes less heat, yet they burn up from heat issues more and again circulate the heat inside the case. Not sure on that exact 7900GT, but Digit0life tests noise and the 7900GT's are the loudest card according to them.

Edit, by the way, this card is equal to a 7900GT and is $200 no rebates.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
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August 13, 2006 7:52:24 PM

69...yummy
August 13, 2006 7:58:42 PM

Whoa thanks for the input guys, I had no idea that the Radeon cooler draws the heat out, I just thought they made it huge for kicks and giggles 8O. But serously do y'all think that a 512MB card is a good choice?
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2006 8:04:37 PM

The X1900XT is an outstanding choice, and $315 no rebates is a very nice price. If I didn't have a X1800XT already I would buy that card myself.

By the way, if you have not bought from Buy.com, this click through savings will make that $315 only cost you $300.
http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=88301879&adid...

Otherwise, the MSI X1900XT on Neweggs site is a bit cheaper but after a $100 rebate. And again, let me add, the X1800XT for $200 no rebates would save you $100 and give you the same features as the X1900XT but with 7900GT performance.
August 13, 2006 8:11:54 PM

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69...yummy


I can't tell if your a dude or a chick.... you talk like oth sometimes and your pic makes me unsure... THIS IS NOT A FLAME :? :wink:
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2006 8:20:48 PM

LOL, I would have assumed horny young male. Never imagined it was a chick. 8)
August 13, 2006 8:28:37 PM

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LOL, I would have assumed horny young male. Never imagined it was a chick. 8)

LOL, ya thats what i thought at first but some things it says make me wonder that maybe its a horny young girlwho i believe are secretly hornier than young men 8) ) but i could be wrong and in for a flame :wink:
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2006 8:36:10 PM

Ah don't say such stuff. I'm happily married and don't even want to hear how you came to those secretive conclusions.

The OP is going to think this place is messed up or full of 14 year olds (no offense anyone). Someone makes a typo and everyone gets all giddy. :oops: 
a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2006 8:39:02 PM

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would you honestly take a 7900gt over a 1900xt

I was going to comment on that myself but decided he's entitled to his opinion (no matter how rediculous it is) :twisted:

Seems lots of NV fans are just nuts about the 7900GT. Imagine someone saying they would take a X1800XT over an equally priced 7900GTX! 8O
August 13, 2006 8:55:04 PM

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Which card do you guys think is better. Does the extra memory on the cards really matter performance wise?

the Radeon or the GeForce



I like the fact that the GeForce is a single slot. But I heard AVIVO makes Radeons look really nice. My current card is a 6800GT 256MB.


The x1900xt is far superior to the 7900GTKO. That price is pretty good too anyway. Go for it.
August 13, 2006 9:20:11 PM

Yes the X1900XT is a far superior card and it's about equal to the 7900GTX. I,ve done some research because that is one of the cards i,m looking at. but for that price I would wait because because the X1950 is coming out soon and the price for the X1900XTX is going to be the same price as the X1900XT. They had them for that price at newegg a week ago, but not anymore so i,m waiting for them to drop the price again.
August 13, 2006 10:32:10 PM

X1900XT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7900GT. Simple as that.
August 13, 2006 10:38:05 PM

Sapphires ATI cards always own... they're much cheaper than their competitors and the performance is usually on par with everyone else's. The only thing about ATI cards is that they use more power and run hotter.

I'm getting rid of my X800GTO and going for the dual slot Sapphire X850XT I found for the same price. Can't wait for that to get here.:) 
August 13, 2006 11:13:49 PM

if the 7900 gt is tweaked and locked right, like its older brother, the GTX, then the gt will match the x 1900 series graphic cards.
August 13, 2006 11:14:47 PM

x1900xt.. but considering that the card u have now isnt all that bad (for the age) u can just wait until DX10 comes out.. ur call mate
August 14, 2006 12:23:19 AM

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69...yummy


I can't tell if your a dude or a chick.... you talk like oth sometimes and your pic makes me unsure... THIS IS NOT A FLAME :? :wink:

its a pun on the thread title..
August 14, 2006 12:31:41 AM

Well I am kind of doing an super upgrade for my computer. I am planning on getting an E6400 Conroe, a new motherboard ( havent decided on the best one yet), new RAM, and a new video card. I think that a Radeon X1900 XT will be able to run DX10 games just fine, so I am not worried about that. Right now thanks to all of your suggestions, I am leaning towards the Radeon.

PS. Yes I do know there is no GeForce 6900 GT, it was a typo. So lets forget about that, mkay? :roll:
August 14, 2006 12:42:08 AM

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X1900XT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7900GT. Simple as that.


Not exactly:









FULL REVIEW

Sure at stock, the 7900GT loses, but when OC'ed it puts a resonable fight, but all in all X1900XT is overall just better. Just saying...

~Ibrahim~
August 14, 2006 12:49:22 AM

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X1900XT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7900GT. Simple as that.


Not exactly:









FULL REVIEW

Sure at stock, the 7900GT loses, but when OC'ed it puts a resonable fight, but all in all X1900XT is overall just better. Just saying...

~Ibrahim~

Wowzer! That surprised me. If he overclocks though, he will get those numbers. Otherwise the x1900xt is still the reigning contender.
August 14, 2006 12:56:34 AM

X1900XT will destroy the 7900GT in everything.
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 1:17:08 AM

yeah, but that is no fsaa! Who buys these cards and doesn't turn on the eye candy? Just like AnaNVtech to bench at such settings. I tell ya, play close attention to what Anand doesn't say.

Anyway, look over the digit-life charts, the X1900Xt spanks the 7900GT, especially once res is turned up and eye candy is turned on.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/index.html


Hey, contrast Anand's BF2 16x12 scores to FS's 16x12 4x/16x scores. X1900XT almsot doubles the 7900GT and no overclcok is going to make up those grounds.
August 14, 2006 1:32:39 AM

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Sure at stock, the 7900GT loses, but when OC'ed it puts a resonable fight, but all in all X1900XT is overall just better. Just saying...

I was talking about stock, since I didn't mention overclocking...
August 14, 2006 1:40:31 AM

7900gt max oced with full volt mod kicks 2x 7900gt in sli (stock of course)
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 1:45:06 AM

Honestly, that doesn't say much for SLI then. 8O Does a stock 7900GTX beat SLI 7900GT? Not often I'd think.

And what percentage of full voltmodded 7900GT's get RMA'ed in under 2 weeks? :wink:
August 14, 2006 1:49:14 AM

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how many nvidia cards blow air 100% out the back. ATI cards may indeed run hotter but since the GPU's can take a bit of heat it don;t matter. what does matter is hot air being circulated in a case. also i am not sure they use tons more power than their nvidia counter parts.

i always thought the heat and power arguments were old an disproven myslef.


I know, I was just saying the power use is the only real disadvantage with ATI cards. And the slight better performance isn't the only reason I'm getting rid of my X800GTO, that exhaust is the bigger reason I'm getting the X850XT instead.:) 
August 14, 2006 2:13:46 AM

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yeah, but that is no fsaa! Who buys these cards and doesn't turn on the eye candy? Just like AnaNVtech to bench at such settings. I tell ya, play close attention to what Anand doesn't say.

Anyway, look over the digit-life charts, the X1900Xt spanks the 7900GT, especially once res is turned up and eye candy is turned on.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/index.html


Hey, contrast Anand's BF2 16x12 scores to FS's 16x12 4x/16x scores. X1900XT almsot doubles the 7900GT and no overclcok is going to make up those grounds.
Exactly what I was thinking.
August 14, 2006 2:53:14 AM

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And what percentage of full voltmodded 7900GT's get RMA'ed in under 2 weeks? :wink:


Word. Threads on other forums lead to this conclusion also.
August 14, 2006 3:07:59 AM

lol 7900gt @ 800/1800~2000 PAWNS ALL HEADS IN ITS PATH
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 3:15:01 AM

Yup, but I just noticed yesterday, that huge 10+ page thread on the evga forums Called something like "Tally of those with bad 7900's" has been removed from their forums. :evil:  The link now points to the 7900 series sticky but shows a server error at the top.

That was an amazing read. I read every single post over a 1-2 week period. There must have been a hundred bad 7900's with some peoplle on their 4th RMA'd card! i don't doubt many of them got them and immediately tried to OC the stink out of them as was their intensions...not going to accept one that didn't OC well and willing to do a GW ( :p  ) and kill it quickly while it's easy to return. But still, I was amazed eVGA actually let that thread continue instead of pulling an XFX. :wink:



WOW unlike the last few times I tried the link and got redirected, it now shows up again: OK, now I respect evga again. Read it before it's gone. ;) 
http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TO...
August 14, 2006 3:16:08 AM

what did xfx do?
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 3:16:52 AM

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lol 7900gt @ 800/1800~2000 PAWNS ALL HEADS IN ITS PATH


LOL, and how many of the hundreds of posters in that link above hope to get such a card but instead got on a first name basis with the RMA department. :roll: :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 3:21:02 AM

Well, they claim it got too expensive to keep the forums going so they shut them down with little notice. BUT, they had been swamped with recent people startign threads about faulty 7900's so rumor has it that's why they shut them down. Coincedence or shady act, I can not say, but there are those crying foul. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99...

Do you have a 800/1800 7900GT? That's amazing.
August 14, 2006 3:31:26 AM

lol getting illusions of grandeur here hahaha, i don't have one..but shamino does lol?
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 3:39:58 AM

LOL, I was about to ask for your e-autograph and any of your extra OC'in equipment :lol: 

Got a link to some of Shamino's performance scores on such a card?
August 14, 2006 4:14:48 AM

800/1800 would almost perform as well as my 7800GTs in 3DMark06! 8O
August 14, 2006 1:49:40 PM

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Have you read over that link?
http://www.evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TO...

There's like 15 per page and 10 pages. I think the OP did a great job with asking the numbered questions. Take note at just how many people had 3-4 RMA'd cards. 8O


I RMA'd three 7900GTX's and a 7900GT, then turned and walked away. To their credit, I was ready to escape the eVga gravitational pull after the second bad card but their CS folks kept me in the game till the 4th death. Four months I wasted!
August 14, 2006 3:11:48 PM

wow i was planning on getting a 7900gt, but they got so many problems...
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 8:40:29 PM

He did it on air! 8O Very impressive.
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2006 8:42:16 PM

Ouch, 4 cards, that's just horrible. :evil:  Did you have to pay return shipping each time or did eVGA pick up that tab?
August 14, 2006 8:51:10 PM

Well, is the GTX a contender for the X1900XT? I think it is, though the GTX has much higher price. Some GTs, specifically eVGA's Superclocked, can hit GTX speeds and beyond. Keyword is "some". With the Superclocked card at stock, you're 80Mhz away from stock core of the 7900GTX and a measley 20Mhz away on the memory...I don't think it is that far off, but again, I say go with the X1900XT without a doubt in my mind.

I think eVGA has finally gotten rid of that bad batch of cards, not sure what the problem was, anyways...I feel for you guys with the 3+ RMAs, I know it must be hard. X1900XT FTW!

~Ibrahim~
August 15, 2006 2:47:54 PM

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Ouch, 4 cards, that's just horrible. :evil:  Did you have to pay return shipping each time or did eVGA pick up that tab?


I paid all shipping to eVga, they paid shipping back to me. Due to the value of the cards, I shipped insured with signature release. Ouch! It was a shock, really, the DOAs. A few years ago, I installed something like 45 eVga cards in image processing PCs and every one was perfect. That's always been my nvidia experience. Guess I got spoiled.
a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2006 2:56:06 PM

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Ouch, 4 cards, that's just horrible. :evil:  Did you have to pay return shipping each time or did eVGA pick up that tab?


I paid all shipping to eVga, they paid shipping back to me. Due to the value of the cards, I shipped insured with signature release. Ouch! It was a shock, really, the DOAs. A few years ago, I installed something like 45 eVga cards in image processing PCs and every one was perfect. That's always been my nvidia experience. Guess I got spoiled.

Yep.. was the same for me and my XFX XXX 7900GTX 512MB. I rma'd it twice before going for an Asus 7900GTX 512MB for my secondary PC.

My primary PC runs an ATi card.. it's just a better all around card. The 7950GX2's don't tickle my fancy. It would feel like a downgrade going from an x1900XTX to a 7950GX2 due to the loss in image quality. G80 or R600 will be my next upgrade. All depends on features, image quality and performance... I could care less about price, heat or noise as all my cards are Thermo-electrically water-cooled.
August 15, 2006 3:34:10 PM

Get the ati card, while their FPS aren't as high at lower res as nvidia crank everything up and the fps don't fluctuate as much as nvidia.

Also i had a 7900 GTX for 5 days and then it died. which is why i have an ATI.
August 15, 2006 4:33:14 PM

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Yep.. was the same for me and my XFX XXX 7900GTX 512MB. I rma'd it twice before going for an Asus 7900GTX 512MB for my secondary PC.

My primary PC runs an ATi card.. it's just a better all around card. The 7950GX2's don't tickle my fancy. It would feel like a downgrade going from an x1900XTX to a 7950GX2 due to the loss in image quality. G80 or R600 will be my next upgrade. All depends on features, image quality and performance... I could care less about price, heat or noise as all my cards are Thermo-electrically water-cooled.
What the hell are you doing not running Crossfire with a Core 2 Duo at 3.8GHz?! :wink:
a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2006 10:44:48 PM

Ouch. that's alot of shipping charges. Same reason I stopped buying newegg refurbs (open box).

That's quite a few bad 7900's right here on Tom's. I know I have seen 2-3 other people post about a bad one. Shoot say we have 10 bad cards at Tom's, it would take 90 good ones to have a 10% failure rate. 8O (excuse the simple math). We would be lucky to have 90 people post in the graphics forums, never mind 90 GF7900 owners. Not that it matters much, I'd just be curious to know what our THGC failure rate is. I'd definately like to see the actually numbers for eVGA, BFG, XFX, etc.

I'd say start a poll asking 7900 series owners how many bad cards they have had 0,1,2,3,4,5+......but we all know that would not work. Every fanatic would say they had a few and every NVidiot would say zero, even if they only owned 9600se's or fx5500's. :wink: :lol: 
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