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August 10, 2004 7:11:42 PM

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I am confused, why if I do testing the domain (komputroller.com) that host
in our new DNS servers and the domain (komputroller.ca) that STILL host in
our ISP DNS, show significance different. Of course not the record/IP/ttl
value, etc but like doesn't show SOA, A record and MX record for
komputroller.com, is that because I use W2K DNS and ISP use Unix Bind??
If i check using www.dnsreport.com, looks like it shows ok.
Could somebody clarify this, please??
Thanks.

Joe


FYI, I put the zone file for komputroller.com

;
; Database file komputroller.com.dns for komputroller.com zone.
; Zone version: 16
;

@ IN SOA ns1.multisoftonline.net.
admin.multisoftonline.net. (
16 ; serial number
3600 ; refresh
600 ; retry
604800 ; expire
90000 ) ; minimum TTL

;
; Zone NS records
;

@ NS ns1.multisoftonline.net.
@ NS ns2.multisoftonline.net.
ns2.multisoftonline.net. A 205.150.16.155

;
; Zone records
;

@ A 205.150.16.100
@ MX 10 mail.komputroller.com.
admin A 205.150.16.240
mail A 205.150.16.240
www A 205.150.16.100

*******************************************
A.
How I am searching:
at www.dnsstuff.com on the "Hostname Tests" fill in komputroller.ca, the
following is the results.

Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at d.root-servers.net: Got
referral to NS-EXT.VIX.COM. [took 43 ms]
Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at NS-EXT.VIX.COM.: Got
referral to ns2.uunet.ca. [took 97 ms]
Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at ns2.uunet.ca.: Reports
ns.uunet.ca. [took 50 ms]

Answer:
Domain Type Class TTL Answer
komputroller.ca. SOA IN 86400 ns.uunet.ca. support.ca.mci.com.
{2003122201, 28800, 3600, 604800, 86400}
komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns.uunet.ca.
komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns2.uunet.ca.
komputroller.ca. A IN 86400 205.150.16.88
komputroller.ca. TXT IN 86400 "UUNET Canada Tech Support +1 888 UUNET
OK"
komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns.uunet.ca.
komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns2.uunet.ca.
ns.uunet.ca. A IN 604800 142.77.1.1
ns2.uunet.ca. A IN 604800 142.77.1.5



########################################################
B.
How I am searching:
at www.dnsstuff.com on the "Hostname Tests" fill in komputroller.com, the
following is the results.

Searching for ALL record for komputroller.com at d.root-servers.net: Got
referral to A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. [took 47 ms]
Searching for ALL record for komputroller.com at A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.:
Reports ns1.multisoftonline.net. [took 48 ms]

Answer:

Domain Type Class TTL Answer
komputroller.com. NS IN 172800 ns1.multisoftonline.net.
komputroller.com. NS IN 172800 ns2.multisoftonline.net.
komputroller.com. NS IN 172800 ns1.multisoftonline.net.
komputroller.com. NS IN 172800 ns2.multisoftonline.net.
ns1.multisoftonline.net. A IN 172800 205.150.16.241
ns2.multisoftonline.net. A IN 172800 205.150.16.155

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Anonymous
August 10, 2004 10:42:27 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

In news:uO$Bi1wfEHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Joe <joebio91@hotmail.com> wrote their comments
Then Kevin replied below:
> I am confused, why if I do testing the domain
> (komputroller.com) that host in our new DNS servers and
> the domain (komputroller.ca) that STILL host in our ISP
> DNS, show significance different. Of course not the
> record/IP/ttl value, etc but like doesn't show SOA, A
> record and MX record for komputroller.com, is that
> because I use W2K DNS and ISP use Unix Bind??
> If i check using www.dnsreport.com, looks like it shows
> ok.
> Could somebody clarify this, please??
> Thanks.

Are these the NS records for your domain?
komputroller.ca. 604800 IN NS ns.uunet.ca.
komputroller.ca. 604800 IN NS ns2.uunet.ca.

If they aren't and they are in cache somewhere as your NS records they are
going to be there until TTL runs out or the default ttl of the server they
are on runs out.
Most of the A records in your domain have a ttl of one day, so if you change
an IP it could take up to one day for the new IP to get updated in a DNS
where the old IP is cached.

One day is a pretty extreme TTL for an A record you might want to consider
reducing the ttl to one hour on the A records.




>
> Joe
>
>
> FYI, I put the zone file for komputroller.com
>
> ;
> ; Database file komputroller.com.dns for
> komputroller.com zone. ; Zone version: 16
> ;
>
> @ IN SOA ns1.multisoftonline.net.
> admin.multisoftonline.net. (
> 16 ; serial number
> 3600 ; refresh
> 600 ; retry
> 604800 ; expire
> 90000 ) ; minimum TTL
>
> ;
> ; Zone NS records
> ;
>
> @ NS ns1.multisoftonline.net.
> @ NS ns2.multisoftonline.net.
> ns2.multisoftonline.net. A 205.150.16.155
>
> ;
> ; Zone records
> ;
>
> @ A 205.150.16.100
> @ MX 10 mail.komputroller.com.
> admin A 205.150.16.240
> mail A 205.150.16.240
> www A 205.150.16.100
>
> *******************************************
> A.
> How I am searching:
> at www.dnsstuff.com on the "Hostname Tests" fill in
> komputroller.ca, the following is the results.
>
> Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at
> d.root-servers.net: Got referral to NS-EXT.VIX.COM.
> [took 43 ms]
> Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at
> NS-EXT.VIX.COM.: Got referral to ns2.uunet.ca. [took 97
> ms]
> Searching for ALL record for komputroller.ca at
> ns2.uunet.ca.: Reports ns.uunet.ca. [took 50 ms]
>
> Answer:
> Domain Type Class TTL Answer
> komputroller.ca. SOA IN 86400 ns.uunet.ca.
> support.ca.mci.com. {2003122201, 28800, 3600, 604800,
> 86400} komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns.uunet.ca.
> komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns2.uunet.ca.
> komputroller.ca. A IN 86400 205.150.16.88
> komputroller.ca. TXT IN 86400 "UUNET Canada Tech
> Support +1 888 UUNET OK"
> komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns.uunet.ca.
> komputroller.ca. NS IN 604800 ns2.uunet.ca.
> ns.uunet.ca. A IN 604800 142.77.1.1
> ns2.uunet.ca. A IN 604800 142.77.1.5
>
>
>
> ########################################################
> B.
> How I am searching:
> at www.dnsstuff.com on the "Hostname Tests" fill in
> komputroller.com, the following is the results.
>
> Searching for ALL record for komputroller.com at
> d.root-servers.net: Got referral to A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.
> [took 47 ms]
> Searching for ALL record for komputroller.com at
> A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.: Reports ns1.multisoftonline.net.
> [took 48 ms]
>
> Answer:
>
> Domain Type Class TTL Answer
> komputroller.com. NS IN 172800
> ns1.multisoftonline.net. komputroller.com. NS IN
> 172800 ns2.multisoftonline.net. komputroller.com.
> NS IN 172800 ns1.multisoftonline.net.
> komputroller.com. NS IN 172800
> ns2.multisoftonline.net. ns1.multisoftonline.net. A
> IN 172800 205.150.16.241 ns2.multisoftonline.net. A IN
> 172800 205.150.16.155



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Anonymous
August 11, 2004 3:10:28 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

In news:eeKtzOzfEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> made a post then I
commented below
> In news:uO$Bi1wfEHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> Joe <joebio91@hotmail.com> wrote their comments
> Then Kevin replied below:
>> I am confused, why if I do testing the domain
>> (komputroller.com) that host in our new DNS servers and
>> the domain (komputroller.ca) that STILL host in our ISP
>> DNS, show significance different. Of course not the
>> record/IP/ttl value, etc but like doesn't show SOA, A
>> record and MX record for komputroller.com, is that
>> because I use W2K DNS and ISP use Unix Bind??
>> If i check using www.dnsreport.com, looks like it shows
>> ok.
>> Could somebody clarify this, please??
>> Thanks.
>
> Are these the NS records for your domain?
> komputroller.ca. 604800 IN NS ns.uunet.ca.
> komputroller.ca. 604800 IN NS ns2.uunet.ca.
>
> If they aren't and they are in cache somewhere as your NS records
> they are going to be there until TTL runs out or the default ttl of
> the server they are on runs out.
> Most of the A records in your domain have a ttl of one day, so if you
> change an IP it could take up to one day for the new IP to get
> updated in a DNS where the old IP is cached.
>
> One day is a pretty extreme TTL for an A record you might want to
> consider reducing the ttl to one hour on the A records.
>
>
<snip>

Actually, normally it is, but at one point I was using 7 days for spme A
records since I figure it wasn't going to change for a long time. The only
time I reduced it was when I changed IPs of the resource then put it back up
after the change. It reduced query hits, especially with this one site I was
hosting for this one customer that was getting over 10,000 hits per day.

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Anonymous
August 11, 2004 8:44:22 AM

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J> but like doesn't show SOA, A record and MX record for komputroller.com,

"like" ?

J> is that because I use W2K DNS and ISP use Unix Bind??

No. It's because the "com." content DNS servers provide a complete
answer to "ANY" queries for "komputroller.com.", instead of a referral,
whereas the "ca." content DNS servers provide a partial answer ending in
a referral to "ANY" queries for "komputroller.ca.". The complete answer
provided by the "com." content DNS servers simply doesn't contain all of
the information provided in the complete answer that one would get if
one queries the "komputroller.com." content DNS servers. (But remember:
"ANY" is not "ALL".)

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