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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 09:19:23 AM
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Me and a friend are in a rather heated disuction on weither the case is considered hard ware. we mean in terms of computer hard ware, not just something that u can touch, but the actuall definition of hardware
what do u think (make sure u know that the term "hardware" means) ie, not just something u can touch!!

and a Q from me, how do i add a poll?

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 09:29:16 AM
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Well computer hardware is any part of a computer that u can touch isnt it?????

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 09:38:38 AM
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yeh, but that is not what i mean (jigga is my mate who i'm having this fight about)

i can touch the table is that hardware? in terms of computers its not. it helps the computer by holding it , but it ain't actaull hardware is it?

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dhlucke   04-11-2002 at 09:43:25 AM
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Yeah, I think it's considered hardware in terms of computers. Software is another option and I don't think a case fits that description. Another option is media but I don't think it fits in there either.

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 09:46:23 AM
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I said any part of the computer the table is not part of the computer but the case is.

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dhlucke   04-11-2002 at 09:48:31 AM
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Yeah, the computer table is just furniture.

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 09:51:03 AM
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ok
its obveious that it ain't software
ok. but it is possiable to have somthing that ain't hradware or software

any piece of hardware in the computer is recognised by the computer and has some firmware linked to it (weither it be the bios of cmos)

so if u take a piece of hardware out, (ie sound card, hhd, modem, nic) the computer will know, ie, when u go to hardware, it won't list it,
but it it is all there the computer ill know and communitcate with it

weither u have a case or not the computer don't care.!!
u could hvae ur ocmputer spread out on ur desk, and it will work fine (may not be good for it) but none the less weither the case is present or not, the compuer is not consernd

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 10:08:33 AM
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Woodle do consider a case to be a part of the computer

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 10:31:55 AM
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what do u mean by 'part of the compuer'
do u mean it is actually 'part' of the computer, interacting with the cpu and other components, and has some form of bios or firmware, and is recognised by the operating system?? well in that case no i don't think it is
if u go to device manager or what ever it don't list 'Case'

but saying that, the case is 'hard'. . yes u can touch it! but the concept behind the name 'hardware' don't just mean that its hard. if u list all other hard ware, and then the case, you'll see its the odd one out..

so yes the case benifits the compuer and holds it together and makes it practical, but weither its actually PART of the computer, no, take it away . . the computer don't acknowldge it

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dhlucke   04-11-2002 at 10:46:02 AM
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LOL...you have an interesting point.

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Anonymous   04-11-2002 at 10:53:34 AM
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see i'm not trying to be smart or anything, its just that the every other piece of hard ware (apart from the case) does similar things . .u can think of them.

but the case is the only thing that dosen't. well anyway i just don't think that the case fits the meaning of the word 'hardware'. . like everything else does

which would there fore . . effectivly. . not make it hardware right. . .

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jc14all   04-11-2002 at 04:26:10 PM
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If you are categorizing a build to keep your list simple, I'd say the case = Enclosure, the internal components = hardware, and then add-ons = perpherials, and last of all software. Even though the case is hard, I would understand you more if you referenced it as enclosure.

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Tom_Smart   04-12-2002 at 01:07:48 AM
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Yes the case is hardware. It does interact with the CPU, a good quality aluminium case will shed heat better and keep the CPU and other components cooler in the same way that a heatsink and fan will do.

Although it has a lot of good ideas, beer doesn't know anything about computers!!!

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camieabz   04-12-2002 at 02:41:00 AM
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Hardware is any part of a computer system which you can touch. How many systems have you seen on sale with no case?


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eden   04-12-2002 at 05:04:38 AM
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I'd put it under "Dressing", that'll stimulate Martha Stewart!

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Anonymous   04-12-2002 at 01:23:46 PM
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now this i don't get

u can touch the case, ok u can touch it . . .its hard

ok but when the BIG ppl made the word hardward did u think the just meant everyting u could touch..!????

i would agree with the enclouser post!! sure it covers the CPU but the cpu dosen't even know that its there, it dosen't even have any electrical activity at all . .. not even in the slightest. . . so when u add it up , it can't be hardware,.. if u call the case hardware, ur comparing it to the :

harddrive
NIC
modem
motherboard
CPU
floppy drive
cdrom
chip set
(all of the above has firmware or BIOS commands, or CMOS)

what does the case have in common?? oh it covers it all . ..


well i'm sorry but u can touch the case, but what does it have to do with anything else that is listed above,. . . . nothing . . so when compared it, it ain't anything like hardware. .even though u can touch it

i think that when the meaning of hardare was invented they weren't think of things like the case but more or less things like the above list. . .it is some plain .. how else can it be "hardware"??!!!

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Anonymous   04-12-2002 at 01:30:12 PM
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ok and with that "oh u can touch the case"

well u can touch a hhd and other hardware, but if u take it away, the computer knows and donsen't list it, and if u add the hdd or other hard ware, the computer again will recognise it and list it

the case, man u can run a computer with out a case, i've seen computer run just lying on a table. . . far, and weither the case is there or not the computer don't know or care, sure it may protect it, and give it cooling, so its a protective covering. . it ain't hardware

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Jake75   04-12-2002 at 01:59:52 PM
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Man, you people are just to funny!
People around the world are starving and killing each other and
you are in the midst of a debate wether the case have a right
to be called hardware or not. lol!

I´m not saying this is a bad thing, I´m not a "better" person
myself, I just reflected over it. :smile:

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svol   04-12-2002 at 05:33:45 PM
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The case is connected with your motherboard: power-on switch and reset switch are parts of the case. And there are cases that have a LED number display which display current CPU speed. Also Windows98 in example detects a ACPI system button which is you on/off button.

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Tom_Smart   04-12-2002 at 11:12:31 PM
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heatsink and fan arn't listed in davice manager. take them away and see what happens.

Although it has a lot of good ideas, beer doesn't know anything about computers!!!

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svol   04-14-2002 at 01:04:41 PM
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Good point.

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zpyrd   04-16-2002 at 12:04:53 AM
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Yes it is hardware.

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svol   04-16-2002 at 03:41:24 PM
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And we all listen to zpyrd, so however you turn it: the case is hardware.

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jihiggs   04-19-2002 at 07:03:10 PM
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the case provides grounding, i think its a piece of hardware. the power switch is on the case, so are the lights and the reset button. and power supply isnt listed in device manager either : )

i went to the tomshardware forums and all i got was this lousy signature.

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Crashman   05-08-2002 at 06:16:05 AM
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Of course it's hardware, it serves a electrical function of grounding components and acts as a shield to prevent RFI.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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jihiggs   05-13-2002 at 08:34:34 AM
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damn, youve been bored! how long did you have to dig to find this?

how do you shoot the devil in the back? what happens if you miss? -verbal

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Crashman   05-13-2002 at 09:08:57 AM
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What? Hmm, if a bunch of people already said these things, myabe I should have read all the responses first!

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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TheMaverick   05-13-2002 at 10:30:14 AM
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LOL lots of good points... I think the best was the case being an enclosure however the case may have hard ware built into it like the thing that tells you your CPU speed and the LED's and what not but I would agree with it being more of an enclosure just my 2 cents =)

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