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As expected, Measekite continues his disrespectful rant, calls me names, and
alters my message. While he has every right to disagree, he has no right to
call me a liar.
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> Burt wrote:
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>>"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> The person who is writing this also frequents those other groups spreading
> his gospel. In the other groups he called himself fotofreek.
Measekite also frequents other groups. He accuses me of spreading my gospel
(I have now been elevated to the status of St. Mark) and rightly identifies
me as fotofreek on the Nifty-stuff forum. On this NG I use my own first
name as opposed to Measekite who hides behind a fake sign-on name while
spouting his obscenities and misinformation (his gospel).
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>>Read the user manual that came with your printer. It tells you to run the
>>cleaning cycles if the test pattern indicates that one or more jets is not
>>delivering ink.
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> It says nothing about using generic ink that will clog the head to begin
> with.
Measekite's rant. All aftermarket inks do not clog printheads, and all
clogs are not caused by aftermarket inks. He tries to blame every printer
malfunction on aftermarket inks and asks everyone who posts a message about
a print head clog if they use only OEM inks. I have noticed that of those
who bothered to answer the question, the majority of them have used only OEM
inks. He exposes his lack of knowledge and experience with these materials
and his extreme bias.
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>>When the cleaning cycles don't restore the printer to proper function what
>>do you do? The manual doesn't help, nor does calling tech support. You
>>can take the printer to a repair facility at considerable cost, junk it
>>and buy a new one, or learn what these "tinkerers" have figured out to
>>clear a head clog. On a grand scale, Thomas Edison and the Wright brothers
>>were "tinkerers."
>
> You got to be kidding. Out of your league pal.
Just what I said, in a more reasoned way, in the next two sentences. Please
re-read the entire paragraph. BTW, I was not extolling the value of my
participation in the Nifty forum, I was describing several others who are
the "tinkerers" who have evaluated aspects of this very narrow subject of
carts and inks and come up with answers to the problems that the
manufacturers do not address.
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>>On an extremely small but helpful scale, "tinkerers" have helped all of us
>>solve hardware and software problems through forums and newsgroups when
>>manuals and tech support were inadequate. I am not comparing the
>>contributions made by brilliant inventors in the past to someone who
>>figured out how to clear a badly blocked printhead.>>
>
> ha ha ha
This is the typical kind of response that Measekite uses to try to demean
people and their postings
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>> I am only saying that it takes an inquiring mind, analytical thought, a
>> bit of tinkering, and some luck to come up with the solution to these
>> annoying problems. Thank goodness for the "tinkerers."
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>>2) Those of us who refill our carts on this NG don't use "generic"
>>inks.
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> All non OEM inks are generic. There are two types of generic ink -
> printer specific and printer non specific.
WRONG. Generic inks are sold to be used in a variety of manufacturers'
printers. Printer-specific inks are formulated for particular
manufacturers' printer models. Don't play with words, Measekite.
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>>Generic ink is sold by Costco and some other firms and is touted as
>>suitable for printers of all manufacturers. "One size fits all." These
>>are usually to be avoided. We use inks that are specifically formulated
>>for our brand and model of printers. They are not "no-name" products.
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> Bullshit. The label of ink ou use does not have a name and the vendor you
> get it from does not disclose the mfg/formulator on their website no will
> they tell you who it is. It is NO NAME. You are a stubborn old fool not
> to admit that.
WRONG. Several of the vendors, when asked, do tell what is in their carts.
AND - I may be old, and I may be stubborn, but a fool I am not. Only a fool
resorts to name calling in a discussion. That's you, Measekite.
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>> Formulabs is one of the world's largest ink manufacturers. MIS inks have
>> been available and used successfully for many years. It is no more
>> "no-name" than the large appliances that Sears sells under the Kenmore
>> label.
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> Sears will tell you that Kenmore is made by Whirlpool.
Find that information on an advertising circular or catalog and I will give
you a swig of your favorite aftermarket ink. AND - not all Kenmore items
are manufactured by Whirlpool.
>
>>Sears contracts with major appliance manufacturers to produce units
>>labeled as Kenmore. The manufacturer is not disclosed.
>
> You are a liar.
Again, an accusation with a perjorative term.
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>>This does not detract from their value or usefulness, nor does it make
>>Sears unethical. MIS inks in Canon printers work every bit as well as OEM
>>inks from my own personal experience.
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> There are many other people who had headclogs. Gimmme a break.
I can only relate my own personal experience, and you have none in this
area. You also disregard the many reports from people who have head clogs
from OEM inks. Again, the bias comes through.
>
>>3) No one on the Nifty forum makes money from ink sales or has a vested
>>interest in any of these businesses.
>
> How do you know. We got rid of WeStink on this forum who admitted he
> makes money in this business and he admitted to this ng that his only
> interest in giving advice is to further his business.
WE didn't get rid of Weink, you chased him away with your biased and
slanderous diatribe. Obviously he is in business to make a living. He did,
however, give some valuable advice on his last post. He identified the ink
in his CRU carts as Formulabs and corrected your erroneous information about
the cost of that item. You had described the price of another prefilled
cart that, as I recall, had Image Specialist ink in it. Both of these inks
are good products.
>
>>If any vendor choses to post a notice regarding his product he identifies
>>himself as the vendor.
>
> More Lies. Maybe he works for Tyco or Adelphia
Again, I am called a liar. One vendor did post on the Nifty site and the
moderator added a note that, while the information was of some value to the
group, he does not permit postings that are advertisements for products.
AND, what does any of this have to do with Tyco or Adelphia? Just another
way to slander by association with these firms.
>
>>Often times this information is in response to someone's question about
>>the product and the response is helpful. Anyone who posts a blatant sales
>>pitch on the Nifty forum is politely told not to do it any more.
>
> Just go undercover. You must think the readers were born yesterday. Well
> not all of them.
We now delve into conspiracy theory. Measekite will now tell us that there
were ten gunmen responsible for the Kennedy asassination and that J. Edgar
Hoover proved that Martin Luther King was a communist. Get real, Measekite.
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>>There are a few people who run cart refilling businesses who give tips and
>>advice to participants on that forum on how to successfully do their cart
>>refilling.
>
> The truth leaks out.
Before you cut my post up to interject your smart-ass comments read the
whole message.
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>> They don't identify their places of business and do a real service to the
>> forum.
>>
>>4) Measekite wants objectivity. What is more objective than people
>>reporting both positive and negative aspects of products they have
>>personally used. Measekite is the least objective person on this NG.
>
> Bullshit. I just do not like these whore to get away with anything. And
> this old fart supports them.
I support no one. If I have used a good product I will let others know it.
More name calling.
>
>> He vilifies the vendors (with whom he has never done business),
>> denigrates their products (although he has never used them), calls me and
>> others on the NG names, and purposely cuts up and changes our posts to
>> distort the message that is intended to help others. He doesn't have the
>> decency to leave a lie alone that is intended to help, nor does he treat
>> others with respect. If he were to be respectful to others on the NG
>> they would, in turn, be respectful to him.
Again, Measekite stupidly changes my post by changing the word "message" to
"lie". This NG is extermely helpful and is frequented by many wonderful
people who give generously of their time to help solve problems. It is a
shame to see it highjacked by the likes of a Measekite. Too bad it is not
moderated. He would have to find another place to play his childish games.
The kinds of messages he constantly posts on this NG are not tolerated on
the Nifty forum. It may be a forum of "tinkerers," but it has some valuable
information and all the participants are respectful and civil.
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