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Anonymous
January 28, 2005 12:17:00 AM

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Hey all. Having just recovered from leprosy er...corprus disease, I went
hunting for a bunch of 'restore attribute potions.'

What is the difference between the cheap, bargain, quality, standard,
exquisite, and so forth restore potions? For restoring health and fatigue
it makes sense, but even the bargain ones seem to restore my attributes
to full, assuming that a change in colour (red --> beige) is indicative of
that.

Or am I screwing myself horribly?

Thanks,
Colin
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 6:53:25 AM

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"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote in message
news:41f95891@news.nucleus.com...
> Hey all. Having just recovered from leprosy er...corprus disease, I went
> hunting for a bunch of 'restore attribute potions.'
>
> What is the difference between the cheap, bargain, quality, standard,
> exquisite, and so forth restore potions? For restoring health and fatigue
> it makes sense, but even the bargain ones seem to restore my attributes
> to full, assuming that a change in colour (red --> beige) is indicative of
> that.
>
> Or am I screwing myself horribly?
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
>

Weight of potion -- the cheaper the heavier.
Thirinel
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:38 AM

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:17:00 GMT, "Colin B."
<cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote:

>Hey all. Having just recovered from leprosy er...corprus disease, I went
>hunting for a bunch of 'restore attribute potions.'
>
>What is the difference between the cheap, bargain, quality, standard,
>exquisite, and so forth restore potions? For restoring health and fatigue
>it makes sense, but even the bargain ones seem to restore my attributes
>to full, assuming that a change in colour (red --> beige) is indicative of
>that.

The dearer ones restore more points, but this is only important if
you've lost that many in the first place. If you've only lost 2 points
from an attribute, there's no sense getting an exquisite potion to cure
it, as most of its effect would be wasted. On the other hand, if some
magic-user has cut your strength by 40 points, that cheap potion you
were carrying just isn't goint to do the job.
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Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:39 AM

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Greg Johnson <greg.gsj@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:17:00 GMT, "Colin B."
> <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey all. Having just recovered from leprosy er...corprus disease, I went
>>hunting for a bunch of 'restore attribute potions.'
>>
>>What is the difference between the cheap, bargain, quality, standard,
>>exquisite, and so forth restore potions? For restoring health and fatigue
>>it makes sense, but even the bargain ones seem to restore my attributes
>>to full, assuming that a change in colour (red --> beige) is indicative of
>>that.
>
> The dearer ones restore more points, but this is only important if
> you've lost that many in the first place. If you've only lost 2 points
> from an attribute, there's no sense getting an exquisite potion to cure
> it, as most of its effect would be wasted. On the other hand, if some
> magic-user has cut your strength by 40 points, that cheap potion you
> were carrying just isn't goint to do the job.

OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points and
I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
chance to restore? I could have sworn that my values were much higher than
I've restored them to, but they won't go any further with more potions.

Thanks,
Colin
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:40 AM

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Colin B. wrote:

> OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points and
> I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
> drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
> chance to restore?

You can drink several potions, and the effects will add up. There is no
limitation in restoring attributes. You could restore say 10 points with
a spell, and twice another 5 points with two cheap-o potions.


> I could have sworn that my values were much higher than
> I've restored them to, but they won't go any further with more potions.

Only way would be to reload an older savegame and compare the values.
You see when your stats are at maximum again when they are not displayed
in red anymore. Then you are back to your original value. If this
original value is indeed off - it would be a very rare thing, never
happened to me -, then load a previous savegame and note down your
values on some paper. Load back your latest game, open the console and type:

player->setagility 60

for example, to restore your agility to 60, if that had been your real
value.

However, restoring attributes generally works fine. Im not saying
Morrowind has no bugs, it has plenty. But at least this particular thing
seems to work.


Peter
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:40 AM

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Colin B. wrote:
>
> OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points and
> I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
> drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
> chance to restore? I could have sworn that my values were much higher than
> I've restored them to, but they won't go any further with more potions.
>
before restoring you should take off any items which permanently add
boni (bonusses ?) to any attributes as some restoring techniques do not
recognize that
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:40 AM

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Yes, you can keep guzzling.
If you get a disease though, even though you can restore you ability, such
as strength or intelligence, you will still have the disease.
You will need to use a cuse common disease or cure blight disease potion to
fix this, otherwise people won't want to talk to you.


"Colin B." <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote in message
news:41f970df@news.nucleus.com...
> Greg Johnson <greg.gsj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:17:00 GMT, "Colin B."
>> <cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey all. Having just recovered from leprosy er...corprus disease, I went
>>>hunting for a bunch of 'restore attribute potions.'
>>>
>>>What is the difference between the cheap, bargain, quality, standard,
>>>exquisite, and so forth restore potions? For restoring health and fatigue
>>>it makes sense, but even the bargain ones seem to restore my attributes
>>>to full, assuming that a change in colour (red --> beige) is indicative
>>>of
>>>that.
>>
>> The dearer ones restore more points, but this is only important if
>> you've lost that many in the first place. If you've only lost 2 points
>> from an attribute, there's no sense getting an exquisite potion to cure
>> it, as most of its effect would be wasted. On the other hand, if some
>> magic-user has cut your strength by 40 points, that cheap potion you
>> were carrying just isn't goint to do the job.
>
> OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points and
> I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
> drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
> chance to restore? I could have sworn that my values were much higher than
> I've restored them to, but they won't go any further with more potions.
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:41 AM

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> > OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points
and
> > I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
> > drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
> > chance to restore?
>
> You can drink several potions, and the effects will add up. There is no
> limitation in restoring attributes. You could restore say 10 points with
> a spell, and twice another 5 points with two cheap-o potions.

Though thinking about it, if you have the spell, why bother carrying potions
around? Well, I guess if it's a Power rather than a spell, it saves you
from having to rest for a day to cast it again. I recall that Almalexia
rewards you with such a power at one point. Myself, I Enchanted a ring with
Restore 15 points each of Strength, Endurance, Agility, and Speed. Covers
most situations. I've yet to see any enemy attack me with something that
drained any of my other stats. There are some diseases which do, but since
curing the disease restores your stats, there's no need.
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 11:44:42 AM

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Darrel Hoffman wrote:

>>>OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points
>
> and
>
>>>I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
>>>drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
>>>chance to restore?
>>
>>You can drink several potions, and the effects will add up. There is no
>>limitation in restoring attributes. You could restore say 10 points with
>>a spell, and twice another 5 points with two cheap-o potions.
>
>
> Though thinking about it, if you have the spell, why bother carrying potions
> around? Well, I guess if it's a Power rather than a spell, it saves you
> from having to rest for a day to cast it again. I recall that Almalexia
> rewards you with such a power at one point. Myself, I Enchanted a ring with
> Restore 15 points each of Strength, Endurance, Agility, and Speed. Covers
> most situations. I've yet to see any enemy attack me with something that
> drained any of my other stats. There are some diseases which do, but since
> curing the disease restores your stats, there's no need.
>
>
I've been hit with damage luck attacks but don't remember if they were
part of stock Morrowind or one of the mods.
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 7:42:22 PM

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Peter Strempel <peterstrempel@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Colin B. wrote:
>
>> OK, that makes sense. But then if my agility has been cut by 20 points and
>> I guzzle a bargain potion for one or two points, will I be able to keep
>> drinking potions until my agility is back to full, or do I only get one
>> chance to restore?
>
> You can drink several potions, and the effects will add up. There is no
> limitation in restoring attributes. You could restore say 10 points with
> a spell, and twice another 5 points with two cheap-o potions.

Excellent. This is the information I needed.

>> I could have sworn that my values were much higher than
>> I've restored them to, but they won't go any further with more potions.
>
> Only way would be to reload an older savegame and compare the values.
> You see when your stats are at maximum again when they are not displayed
> in red anymore. Then you are back to your original value. If this

Well, I did that. Turns out I should stop playing so long, and get some
sleep. I was misreading my willpower value as my agility score, and other
cross-eyed silliness.

> However, restoring attributes generally works fine. Im not saying
> Morrowind has no bugs, it has plenty. But at least this particular thing
> seems to work.

Heh. CTD has become my favoured curse around the house these days.

Thanks all.
Colin
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