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August 16, 2006 5:23:46 PM

I have a 9800 Pro in my current system and I am looking to upgrade. I read the sticky on video cards and thought about buying the 7600GS as an upgrade. When looking for a comparison of performance between the 2 cards, the TG 2005 video card charts do not have 7600GS listed for comparison vs. the 9800 Pro. How much of a performance gain could i expect?

My current system: 2.8g Pent D 1 Gb Ram AGP based system

Thanks for your help.

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August 16, 2006 5:48:11 PM

I just upgraded from a 9800 pro to a Sapphire x800gto and the performance increase is amazing. I unlocked the card to 16 pipes using a nice bios flash that also set the stock speeds higher. I hear that the 7600's are nice but I belive my card costs 100 dollars less and I play EVERYTHING on highest setings (a few tweaks on Oblivion).


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August 16, 2006 6:08:18 PM

Agreed go the Route of the ATI X800GTO less then 100 bucks! kicks just about any game. 12pipelines? unlockable to 16 pipes only 100 bucks? NO CARD CAN DO THIS AT THAT PRICE. plus all you would have to do is install the card and nothing else no driver install snice you already have ATI drivers. All in all it would work out very nicely
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August 16, 2006 6:44:25 PM

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Agreed go the Route of the ATI X800GTO less then 100 bucks! kicks just about any game. 12pipelines? unlockable to 16 pipes only 100 bucks? NO CARD CAN DO THIS AT THAT PRICE.


For arguments sake, some of the AGP 6800 GS cards will be unlockable to 16 pipes.

But it's not something you want to bet on, most cards won't unlock successfully... X800 or 6800 alike.

However, a stock X800 GTO will be a nice upgrade over a 9800 PRO anyway, so you can't really lose.
August 16, 2006 7:10:22 PM

The 7600GT AGP is supposed to be coming out sometime this month. That'd be a better buy than the 7600GS.
August 16, 2006 8:49:16 PM

Here's hoping the 7600GT is out for agp this month. I've been waiting for that card for a loooong time. Has anyone seen it in any stores, online vendors yet, etc..?

It's the perfect balance of performance and new features (pixel shader 3.0, h.264 video acceleration for HD, openGL 2.0, etc..) for a final AGP card, especially if you don't have the cash to plunk down on a 7800gs.
August 20, 2006 6:32:04 PM

Hey, I'm in a similar situation. I have an old dell dimension 2.8ghz, 1 gig ram, with an ati 9800 pro and I was looking to get another year or so out of it. At first I was looking at the x1600 pro but have read mixed reviews about its capabilities. I'd like to spend between $100 - $150, maybe a little more.

After reading the forums I am now looking at the 7600gs and the x800gto. Staying with ATi is very appealing, I've never had an nVidia based card. I'd like to hear what you decide on sillywabbit as well as any other suggestions from anyone else. Thanks.
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August 20, 2006 8:14:46 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Best $150 AGP card now is the X850 pro. About equal performance to a X800XL and 6800GT. It's better than a X800 pro or GTO, better than the 7600GS.

If you are willing to spend a bit more and to wait and see IF this card comes back in stock, the X800XT is a step above the X850 pro and it also has a tv tuner and a remote control. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
August 21, 2006 11:45:22 PM

Well i bought the x800xt all in wonder card and its awesome...
even at 12 pixles i upped the core and mem by 10 and its running smooth...
its really good for TV and doing video.....

Hope u make the right choice...i'd get the x850 for the price
August 21, 2006 11:58:05 PM

If you can't wait for the 7600GT, definitely go with what Pauldh recomended. I went from a 9800pro to an X800XL, and am VERY pleased with the performance increase.
a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2006 2:18:53 AM

actually, your AIW X800XT is a 16-pipe card, like the X800XL but with higher clock speeds The X850 pro has 12-pipes. Glad you like the card, I thinks it's one of the best AGP buys going right now.
August 22, 2006 2:24:35 AM

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I play EVERYTHING on highest setings

You're a freakin' liar too..
a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2006 9:38:17 PM

He plays FlatOut and UT2003. :wink:
August 22, 2006 10:08:30 PM

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He plays FlatOut and UT2003. :wink:

That's UT 2k4 buddy! Ok, the statement that it plays EVERYTHING was a bit exaggerated. I tried FlatOut once, and then gave it to my hill-billy cousin to use as a beverage coaster.
a b U Graphics card
August 22, 2006 11:37:02 PM

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I tried FlatOut once, and then gave it to my hill-billy cousin to use as a beverage coaster.

I loved the first one and just bought 3 copies of the second one. I guess I'm a NJ Hillbilly then, cause to me it's a blast to play that game.
August 23, 2006 12:13:01 AM

Funny, I didnt think Hill billy's even bothered to use coasters.... :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
August 23, 2006 12:27:46 AM

:lol: 
August 23, 2006 1:15:05 AM

The AIW X800xt sounds pretty appealing. How good is the x800xt for watching TV - both full screen and windowed? Are the PVR features any good? From a gaming perspective, how do you think it will handle upcoming games like BF2142, Quake Wars as well as current games like Oblivion and HL2? Also, does the fact I'll be using it to power a widescreen monitor (as opposed to normal aspect ratio) make any difference? Lastly, how does the x800xt stack up against the x850xt (even though it may be too pricey for me)? Thanks again.
August 23, 2006 1:13:46 PM

Just purchased AIW X800XT from mwave.com for $152. Hasnt arrived yet, but it shipped the same day i ordered. I got one for each of my two computers that are both running 9800 Pro's. I didnt do it much for the speed (but that will be nice), but for the stability as i have been having consistent problems with games and random crashes. I am hoping that a more up to date card will allow me to run the latest drivers and not have this problem.
August 23, 2006 2:01:58 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you want to watch any HD content (h.264 format) aren't the entire X800 series of ATI cards more or less useless? They have no h.264 acceleration. Obviously this doesn't matter if you don't work with video and/or watch movies, but there are some people who need video power for work and play.

How does the 6800GS (which does have HD acceleration and shader 3.0) perform in this whole game? If I recall it's a bit faster than a 7600gs and only costs $10-25 more.
August 23, 2006 2:30:19 PM

Any of you guys interested to sell their 9800 pro?
(must be Built-by-ATI)
August 23, 2006 3:13:15 PM

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Any of you guys interested to sell their 9800 pro?
(must be Built-by-ATI)


<---------- Very sly. I was wondering when someone would post this? A 9800 pro is still a great agp card and will keep an older machine (2 - 5 years i.e. TI4600?) going for a long time. At low res, can still play most games?
August 23, 2006 3:25:45 PM

It can play UT2k4 at maximum, fear on medium and oblivion at lowest settings

It's an interesting card because it's one of the few models that can be flashed and used in a G4.

These cards are 2x more expensive for the mac version which is way overpriced.
August 23, 2006 3:54:58 PM

as the other said , a X800GTO or X800XT would be the best upgrade :twisted:
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I loved the first one and just bought 3 copies of the second one. I guess I'm a NJ Hillbilly then, cause to me it's a blast to play that game.

hey , i bought FlatOut 2 last night & i must say this game Rocks :twisted:
can easily be played with every system ,good graphic ,and lots of Crashing :twisted: & also good musics :twisted:
August 23, 2006 4:02:28 PM

I have a Built By ATI 9800XT 256/256 (that has been well taken care of) that could use a good home other than my spare part carts. :) 
August 23, 2006 4:15:11 PM

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Just purchased AIW X800XT from mwave.com for $152. Hasnt arrived yet, but it shipped the same day i ordered. I got one for each of my two computers that are both running 9800 Pro's. I didnt do it much for the speed (but that will be nice), but for the stability as i have been having consistent problems with games and random crashes. I am hoping that a more up to date card will allow me to run the latest drivers and not have this problem.


I brought my AIW X800XT from ATI.com with their trade-up program. They were selling them for $179, but credit you back with $50 after you send in your old video card. It totalled to $129 + shipping of your old card. I haven't send in my old video card yet. I am still trying to find my old PCI (not PCIe) video card.

Oddly enough, ATI pulled the deal out from their US site after I brought the card, but I think they still have this deal on their Canadian site.
August 23, 2006 4:22:55 PM

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Any of you guys interested to sell their 9800 pro?
(must be Built-by-ATI)


What's it worth to you??

Radeon 9800 Pro Retail [edit] 128MB [/edit], well used, built by ATI, includes all original discs, docs, cords, adapters and box (mint).
August 23, 2006 5:19:37 PM

Just curious, would a 9800XT work on a G4 after being flashed? (they're basically the same build as a 9800pro, just higher clock speeds correct?)
August 23, 2006 5:29:44 PM

Thanks for all the advice. I think I'll go with the x8oo xt for now. I do have to agree with previous posters that the 9800 pro is a good card---has provided me with plenty of life. I can actually play HL2. I can even manage to play Oblivion (at 800x600 on low settings :lol:  ) but it's definitely time to upgrade.
August 23, 2006 6:54:29 PM

Yeah, when i decided to buy them yesterday, it was already being posted that ATI was pulling that tradeup offer for that card, so i went with mwave as they have served me fairly well in the past and generally have good prices (especially if you can find something when they are running a special).
August 25, 2006 12:45:34 AM

I too decided to go with the X800 XT. The combination of gaming performance and TV tuner is too good to pass up for me right now. Hopefully it will serve me well until I get a new rig next fall. Thanks for the help.
August 25, 2006 12:53:20 AM

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Any of you guys interested to sell their 9800 pro?
(must be Built-by-ATI)


I'll sell you mine for $60, and you pay shipping. It served me well for over a year and a half.
August 26, 2006 2:59:13 PM

I can go up to 75CND if you have all the cables and stuff
I pay the shipping (obviously)
August 27, 2006 6:44:34 PM

Hopefully our Dell PSU's can handle the power requirements Davem. Card recommends 350W min. I'll have to check my PSU specs when i return home in a week.
August 28, 2006 4:23:36 PM

Sorry, I seemed to have misplaced the cables and driver CD. What'll you do for just the card?
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