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Anonymous
November 5, 2004 5:46:49 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

Hi there,

We have a small network, which is connected to the Internet through an ADSL
modem/router. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.

Question 1 (IP connection config):

When I'm adding DC and DNS role to our Win2k3 server (there's no other DC in
the network), the wizard lets me set a static IP (which I understand), I
configured as follows:
IP address: 192.168.0.6
Subnet masks: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.6
I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly, I
used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but that
didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event viewer.
Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting is
correct? If not, what should I put?

Question 2 (forwarders):

In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's DNS
server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the forwarder IP
address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this to me?

Thanks a lot!!
Anonymous
November 5, 2004 5:46:50 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly, I
> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
that
> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event viewer.
> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting is
> correct? If not, what should I put?


You need to point the DNS server to itself. This will allow it to register
the SRV records all AD clients must find.


> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's DNS
> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the forwarder
IP
> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this to
me?



For Internet access you can use either forwarding or root hints.


hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE

"Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
news:418a4ee9$0$6568$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Hi there,
>
> We have a small network, which is connected to the Internet through an
ADSL
> modem/router. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.
>
> Question 1 (IP connection config):
>
> When I'm adding DC and DNS role to our Win2k3 server (there's no other DC
in
> the network), the wizard lets me set a static IP (which I understand), I
> configured as follows:
> IP address: 192.168.0.6
> Subnet masks: 255.255.255.0
> Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
> Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.6
> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly, I
> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
that
> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event viewer.
> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting is
> correct? If not, what should I put?
>
> Question 2 (forwarders):
>
> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's DNS
> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the forwarder
IP
> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this to
me?
>
> Thanks a lot!!
>
>
Anonymous
November 5, 2004 9:17:28 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your reply!!

So for question 1, Is my setting (to 192.168.0.6) THE correct solution, or
there's another solution which is better?
For question 2, which one is better? Just use Root Hints, or better to add
ISP's DNS as a forwarder?

Sorry for being stupid. Because once I set it up, I cannot never change it
later, I must get it right for the first time.

Thanks once again!!

"Danny Sanders" <Danny.Sanders@cpcNOmedSPAM.org> wrote in message
news:eVxjhzowEHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly, I
>> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
> that
>> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event viewer.
>> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
>> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting is
>> correct? If not, what should I put?
>
>
> You need to point the DNS server to itself. This will allow it to register
> the SRV records all AD clients must find.
>
>
>> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's DNS
>> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the forwarder
> IP
>> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
>> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
>> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this to
> me?
>
>
>
> For Internet access you can use either forwarding or root hints.
>
>
> hth
> DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
>
> "Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
> news:418a4ee9$0$6568$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> We have a small network, which is connected to the Internet through an
> ADSL
>> modem/router. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.
>>
>> Question 1 (IP connection config):
>>
>> When I'm adding DC and DNS role to our Win2k3 server (there's no other DC
> in
>> the network), the wizard lets me set a static IP (which I understand), I
>> configured as follows:
>> IP address: 192.168.0.6
>> Subnet masks: 255.255.255.0
>> Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.6
>> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly, I
>> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
> that
>> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event viewer.
>> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
>> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting is
>> correct? If not, what should I put?
>>
>> Question 2 (forwarders):
>>
>> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's DNS
>> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the forwarder
> IP
>> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
>> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
>> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this to
> me?
>>
>> Thanks a lot!!
>>
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
November 5, 2004 9:17:29 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

So for question 1, Is my setting (to 192.168.0.6) THE correct solution, or
> there's another solution which is better?

The fact is AD DCs MUST register SRV records in the same place your AD
clients are looking for them (they must use the same DNS server). There is
nothing that says that DNS server MUST be a Win 2k DC. You an have a BIND
DNS server that you use for the AD domain. The AD DC MUST point to the BIND
server along with all AD clients.

In your set up your DC is the DNS server, your DC MUST point to the DNS
server for your AD domain. In your case it just happens to be itself. Your
AD clients MUST point to the location where your AD DCs have their SRV
records registered. In your case, your DC.
In your set up this is correct and this is the ONLY solution.


> For question 2, which one is better? Just use Root Hints, or better to add
> ISP's DNS as a forwarder?

In most cases it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. If your ISP's DNS
servers are up and down on a regular basis it would be to your advantage to
use root hints. AFAIK using either way is not going to back you into a
corner where you can't switch. I would test each for a week or two and see
if there is a performance difference.

hth
DDS W 2k MVP MCSE


"Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
news:418b2907$0$6549$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Hi Danny,
>
> Thanks for your reply!!
>
> So for question 1, Is my setting (to 192.168.0.6) THE correct solution, or
> there's another solution which is better?
> For question 2, which one is better? Just use Root Hints, or better to add
> ISP's DNS as a forwarder?
>
> Sorry for being stupid. Because once I set it up, I cannot never change it
> later, I must get it right for the first time.
>
> Thanks once again!!
>
> "Danny Sanders" <Danny.Sanders@cpcNOmedSPAM.org> wrote in message
> news:eVxjhzowEHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly,
I
> >> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
> > that
> >> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event
viewer.
> >> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
> >> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting
is
> >> correct? If not, what should I put?
> >
> >
> > You need to point the DNS server to itself. This will allow it to
register
> > the SRV records all AD clients must find.
> >
> >
> >> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's
DNS
> >> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the
forwarder
> > IP
> >> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
> >> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
> >> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this
to
> > me?
> >
> >
> >
> > For Internet access you can use either forwarding or root hints.
> >
> >
> > hth
> > DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
> >
> > "Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
> > news:418a4ee9$0$6568$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> We have a small network, which is connected to the Internet through an
> > ADSL
> >> modem/router. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.
> >>
> >> Question 1 (IP connection config):
> >>
> >> When I'm adding DC and DNS role to our Win2k3 server (there's no other
DC
> > in
> >> the network), the wizard lets me set a static IP (which I understand),
I
> >> configured as follows:
> >> IP address: 192.168.0.6
> >> Subnet masks: 255.255.255.0
> >> Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
> >> Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.6
> >> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server. Initianlly,
I
> >> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53), but
> > that
> >> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event
viewer.
> >> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
> >> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting
is
> >> correct? If not, what should I put?
> >>
> >> Question 2 (forwarders):
> >>
> >> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's
DNS
> >> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the
forwarder
> > IP
> >> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
> >> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP addresses
> >> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this
to
> > me?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot!!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
November 6, 2004 1:07:05 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

Danny, many thinks!!

"Danny Sanders" <Danny.Sanders@cpcNOmedSPAM.org> wrote in message
news:eGy6An1wEHA.2572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> So for question 1, Is my setting (to 192.168.0.6) THE correct solution, or
>> there's another solution which is better?
>
> The fact is AD DCs MUST register SRV records in the same place your AD
> clients are looking for them (they must use the same DNS server). There is
> nothing that says that DNS server MUST be a Win 2k DC. You an have a BIND
> DNS server that you use for the AD domain. The AD DC MUST point to the
> BIND
> server along with all AD clients.
>
> In your set up your DC is the DNS server, your DC MUST point to the DNS
> server for your AD domain. In your case it just happens to be itself. Your
> AD clients MUST point to the location where your AD DCs have their SRV
> records registered. In your case, your DC.
> In your set up this is correct and this is the ONLY solution.
>
>
>> For question 2, which one is better? Just use Root Hints, or better to
>> add
>> ISP's DNS as a forwarder?
>
> In most cases it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. If your ISP's
> DNS
> servers are up and down on a regular basis it would be to your advantage
> to
> use root hints. AFAIK using either way is not going to back you into a
> corner where you can't switch. I would test each for a week or two and see
> if there is a performance difference.
>
> hth
> DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
>
>
> "Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
> news:418b2907$0$6549$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Hi Danny,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply!!
>>
>> So for question 1, Is my setting (to 192.168.0.6) THE correct solution,
>> or
>> there's another solution which is better?
>> For question 2, which one is better? Just use Root Hints, or better to
>> add
>> ISP's DNS as a forwarder?
>>
>> Sorry for being stupid. Because once I set it up, I cannot never change
>> it
>> later, I must get it right for the first time.
>>
>> Thanks once again!!
>>
>> "Danny Sanders" <Danny.Sanders@cpcNOmedSPAM.org> wrote in message
>> news:eVxjhzowEHA.3096@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server.
>> >> Initianlly,
> I
>> >> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53),
>> >> but
>> > that
>> >> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event
> viewer.
>> >> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
>> >> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting
> is
>> >> correct? If not, what should I put?
>> >
>> >
>> > You need to point the DNS server to itself. This will allow it to
> register
>> > the SRV records all AD clients must find.
>> >
>> >
>> >> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's
> DNS
>> >> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the
> forwarder
>> > IP
>> >> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
>> >> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP
>> >> addresses
>> >> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this
> to
>> > me?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > For Internet access you can use either forwarding or root hints.
>> >
>> >
>> > hth
>> > DDS W 2k MVP MCSE
>> >
>> > "Lei Hu" <leihu@nojunk.com> wrote in message
>> > news:418a4ee9$0$6568$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> We have a small network, which is connected to the Internet through an
>> > ADSL
>> >> modem/router. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.
>> >>
>> >> Question 1 (IP connection config):
>> >>
>> >> When I'm adding DC and DNS role to our Win2k3 server (there's no other
> DC
>> > in
>> >> the network), the wizard lets me set a static IP (which I understand),
> I
>> >> configured as follows:
>> >> IP address: 192.168.0.6
>> >> Subnet masks: 255.255.255.0
>> >> Default gateway: 192.168.0.1
>> >> Preferred DNS server: 192.168.0.6
>> >> I don't know what I should put to the preferred DNS server.
>> >> Initianlly,
> I
>> >> used the DNS server provided by our ADSL ISP (e.g., 202.154.83.53),
>> >> but
>> > that
>> >> didn't seem to work properly, and I saw some errors in the event
> viewer.
>> >> Then I changed to the IP address of the Win2k3 server itself, which is
>> >> 192.168.0.6, and it seems working fine. I'm wondering if this setting
> is
>> >> correct? If not, what should I put?
>> >>
>> >> Question 2 (forwarders):
>> >>
>> >> In the DSN properties' forwarders tab, I think I should add the ISP's
> DNS
>> >> server as forwarder. However, if I don't add anything in to the
> forwarder
>> > IP
>> >> address list, the domain name resolution still works fine. I used the
>> >> Network Monitor to investigate it and found it's using the IP
>> >> addresses
>> >> listed in the Root Hints as forwarders. Could you please explain this
> to
>> > me?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
!