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August 17, 2006 6:20:05 PM

Would anyone give me some suggestions on changes if any they would make to this system? It will primarily be for gaming and it will have to last for a while, I don't intend on upgrading again for a couple years. I won't be over clocking. I'm not sure about the mobo and the memory....got better options? Also, if I'm not overclocking, will the stock HSF be sufficient, or should I look for an aftermarket one?

Case : Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard : ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard $166.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Video Card : ATI 100-435801 Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $339.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply : Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Processor : Intel® Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe Processor 2.4GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 4MB Cache Retail $379.00 http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Memory : CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit $259.00 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Keyboard : Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black 104 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Ergonomic Keyboard $21.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Monitor : SAMSUNG 740N-Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 600:1 0.264mm Pixel Pitch - Retail $174.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Mouse : Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

CD-RW : 2 Lite-on SHW-160P6S04 16x8x16xDVD+RW / 16x6x16xDVD-RW / 48x24x48x CD-RW $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Thermal Compound : Zalman ZM - STG1 Thermal Compound $9.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Pro w/SP2 OEM $137.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Surge Protector : Opti-UPS ES1000C 8 Outlet 700 Watt $116.49 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1684...

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August 17, 2006 7:34:20 PM

sounds good, i'd spend an extra 30-50 and get a 19" though
August 17, 2006 7:45:21 PM

swap the ram out for this and spend the extra money left on something else:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

ddr2-800 doesnt perform that much better than ddr2-533 for core 2 duo run it in sync with the fsb 1:1. you should get better results than ddr2-800, the ram i picked has 3-3-3-9 timings as well as being cheaper!
(although it runs slower you dont really need faster modules, only if your overclocking)
see here ddr2-800 doesnt perform much better than ddr2-533 with core 2 duo:
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=472
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So it doesn’t matter much what memory speed/timings you buy, the value line will suit the Intel Core 2 system just fine, but do keep one thing in mind, as in our testing we found performance actually decreases a bit going from PC4200 (533) to PC5300 (667)!
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August 17, 2006 8:19:57 PM

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swap the ram out for this and spend the extra money left on something else:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

ddr2-800 doesnt perform that much better than ddr2-533 for core 2 duo run it in sync with the fsb 1:1. you should get better results than ddr2-800, the ram i picked has 3-3-3-9 timings as well as being cheaper!
(although it runs slower you dont really need faster modules, only if your overclocking)
see here ddr2-800 doesnt perform much better than ddr2-533 with core 2 duo:
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=472

So it doesn’t matter much what memory speed/timings you buy, the value line will suit the Intel Core 2 system just fine, but do keep one thing in mind, as in our testing we found performance actually decreases a bit going from PC4200 (533) to PC5300 (667)!


I agree... unless you're going to overclock PC6400 DDRII 800 isn't the best choice. It's only really useful if you have an AM2 rigs (AM2's need that extra bandwidth to remain competitive with it's socket 939 predecessor)

As for a motherboard.

I am an Asus/DFI fan but I have owned Gigabyte and they make good boards. I've also heard alot of good things about teh socekt 775 i965P gigabyte boards.
Save some money and get a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) for $152.99.

As for the power supply you can do better. Enermax make better Power Supplies then Antec. For the same price range you can get an ENERMAX Whisper II EG565P-VE FMA(24P) for $84.99

Since I've saved you money on the motherboard.. now we move to a better LCD. This model is the highest rated gaming LCD in it's price range. HYUNDAI L90D+ Silver 19" 8ms LCD for $213.99 supports both DVI and Analog. It uses the same Samsung TN panel but tweaked.

The rest looks nice..:) 
August 17, 2006 8:30:13 PM

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I'm really trying to cut costs without sacrificing too much performance, because I really really want this.....
Sound Card : Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $199.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...


Given the Video card you chose (not being SLI or Crossfire) you could move from the E6600 to the E6400 Core 2 Duo Processor and save some cash (~$110USD).

That would also be another suggestion. The memory price difference between the PC6400 and the PC5300/5400 should make up for the rest :) 

Get this memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) System Memory - Retail for $191USD + 30Mail in rebate for a total of $161USD.
August 17, 2006 8:39:45 PM

But the motherboard I've chosen says DDR2 : Standard DDR2 800. If I go with different memory, will it be compatible? or will I have to pick a different board? Also, the E6400 isn't on the graphs you posted before. :(  I wanted to see the FPS for the E6400
August 17, 2006 9:14:32 PM

Thanks for the graphs. Ok, so I'll drop to the E6400 since it isn't that much of a performance drop. Drop to that cheaper RAM, BTW will the different RAM be compatible with a motherboard that says DDR800 standard?
August 17, 2006 9:16:57 PM

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Thanks for the graphs. Ok, so I'll drop to the E6400 since it isn't that much of a performance drop. Drop to that cheaper RAM, BTW will the different RAM be compatible with a motherboard that says DDR800 standard?


No, not at all..:)  Should work fine..:) 
August 17, 2006 9:28:02 PM

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I'm really trying to cut costs without sacrificing too much performance, because I really really want this.....
Sound Card : Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $199.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...


Just so you know, not many games are optimized for xram which is the only real difference between the fatal1ty and the platinum..
and there really isn't any difference between the platinum and the xtrememusic except for the front bay interface which not many use anyway.
August 17, 2006 9:34:29 PM

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I'm really trying to cut costs without sacrificing too much performance, because I really really want this.....
Sound Card : Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $199.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...


Just so you know, not many games are optimized for xram which is the only real difference between the fatal1ty and the platinum..
and there really isn't any difference between the platinum and the xtrememusic except for the front bay interface which not many use anyway.

I agree.. it's more of a future feature. It will be mainly utilized in Crysis and UT2007 as well as other big name titles.
August 17, 2006 9:41:18 PM

So I should go with the Platinum or the Xtrememusic instead of the Fatal1ty?
August 17, 2006 9:48:51 PM

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So I should go with the Platinum or the Xtrememusic instead of the Fatal1ty?


That depends on the speakers you'll be using... any idea what brand, model?
August 17, 2006 9:55:38 PM

Actually most of the time, I use DJ headphones, because other than gaming, I mix alot of my own music on my computer. I don't usually use the speakers, but if I did, I have a Sony 600watt stereo system that I have it looped through. As far as model I have no idea.
August 17, 2006 9:58:44 PM

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Actually most of the time, I use DJ headphones, because other than gaming, I mix alot of my own music on my computer. I don't usually use the speakers, but if I did, I have a Sony 600watt stereo system that I have it looped through. As far as model I have no idea.

If you're going to be doing alot of Audio I/O (Input and Output) then the Platinum will give you all of the necessary connections to do your Audio mixing work. The XtremeMusic is mainly for listening purposes.
August 17, 2006 10:00:33 PM

Sweet, I'll have to check the prices again, but I'm guessing that the Platinum is cheaper than Fatal1ty.
August 17, 2006 10:03:07 PM

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Sweet, I'll have to check the prices again, but I'm guessing that the Platinum is cheaper than Fatal1ty.


Yes.. by a good amount. Good thing you went with the Core 2 Duo... it's also faster at editing Audio/Video.:p 
August 17, 2006 10:13:24 PM

Video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

If you are planning on spending $340, you can either save yourself $61 dollars and still get an X1900XT or save yourself $13 and get an X1900XTX with the full version of King Kong*.

You do have to go through the trouble with a mail-in-rebate, but I think it's worth it.

Based on the following benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2695&p=7

I'd save the $61 and get the X1900XT.

Processor.

Since you don't plan on upgrading for a few years or overclocking and assuming you decided to get the MSI X1900XT, I'd suggest going back to the E6600. Since you saved $61 and the difference between the E6600 and E6400 is $110, you end up spending $49 more than what you originally had.

Thermal Compound.

Get some Artic Silver V. It does the job and is cheaper by 4 bucks.

Mouse.

I'd get the MX1000 Laser Mouse made by Logitech from chiefvalue.com

http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=mx1000&c=Mi...

Added cost $18.





*Wow, King Kong. Does anybody even play this game?
August 17, 2006 10:22:31 PM

I like your suggestions purdueguy... save for one..

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I'd get the MX1000 Laser Mouse made by Logitech from chiefvalue.com

http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=mx1000&c=Mi...

Added cost $18.


MX1000 is not a better mouse then the MX518. True it's got a laser while the MX518 has optical but the precision and high DPI of the MX518 makes it a superior gaming mouse.

That's probably the only thing I would keep.

Now as for how I know this... I have the MX700, MX1000, MX518 and the G7.
August 17, 2006 10:24:34 PM

The X1900XT card that I picked is an official ATI card. I don't know anything about MSI, is it a reputable company? If so, I'll probably switch to that one. I had the Asus version chosen before, but the official ATI was $10 cheaper :p 
August 17, 2006 10:28:55 PM

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The X1900XT card that I picked is an official ATI card. I don't know anything about MSI, is it a reputable company? If so, I'll probably switch to that one. I had the Asus version chosen before, but the official ATI was $10 cheaper :p 


The one big difference is that MSI offer a 3YR warranty whereas ATi offer only 1 YR.
August 17, 2006 10:33:53 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll have to check back tomorrow, gotta get ready to leave work.
August 17, 2006 10:45:57 PM

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Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll have to check back tomorrow, gotta get ready to leave work.


NP.. glad to be of service.
August 17, 2006 11:51:35 PM

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Would anyone give me some suggestions on changes if any they would make to this system? It will primarily be for gaming and it will have to last for a while, I don't intend on upgrading again for a couple years. I won't be over clocking. I'm not sure about the mobo and the memory....got better options? Also, if I'm not overclocking, will the stock HSF be sufficient, or should I look for an aftermarket one?

Case : Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard : ASUS P5B Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard $166.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Video Card : ATI 100-435801 Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $339.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply : Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Processor : Intel® Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe Processor 2.4GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 4MB Cache Retail $379.00 http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Memory : CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit $259.00 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Keyboard : Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black 104 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Ergonomic Keyboard $21.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Monitor : SAMSUNG 740N-Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 600:1 0.264mm Pixel Pitch - Retail $174.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Mouse : Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

CD-RW : 2 Lite-on SHW-160P6S04 16x8x16xDVD+RW / 16x6x16xDVD-RW / 48x24x48x CD-RW $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Thermal Compound : Zalman ZM - STG1 Thermal Compound $9.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Pro w/SP2 OEM $137.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Surge Protector : Opti-UPS ES1000C 8 Outlet 700 Watt $116.49 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1684...






Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.
August 18, 2006 12:52:18 AM

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Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 
August 18, 2006 12:57:20 AM

Memory test:




August 18, 2006 12:23:04 PM

I think this is everything that I'm going to go with. Let me know what you think. It's a little more than I wanted to spend, but hey, you get what you pay. Will the stock CPU Cooler be ok or should I get an aftermarket one?

Case : Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $152.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Video Card : MSI RX1900XT-VT2D512E Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $378.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply : ENERMAX Whisper II EG565P-VE FMA(24P) ATX12V 535W Power Supply $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Processor : Intel® Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe Processor 2.13GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 2MB Cache Retail $247.00 http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Memory : CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) - Retail $191.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Removable Storage : Sabrent 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Flash Memory Reader/Writer $11.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

3.5 Floppy Drive : SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model MPF920 Black - OEM $7.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Keyboard : Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black 104 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Ergonomic Keyboard $21.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Monitor : HYUNDAI L90D+ Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail 213.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Modem : BEST DATA 56HP 56Kbps PCI Bus (Plug and Play) Windows Internal Modem - Retail $8.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Mouse : Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

CD-RW/DVD-RW : 2 Lite-on SHW-160P6S04 16x8x16xDVD+RW / 16x6x16xDVD-RW / 48x24x48x CD-RW $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Thermal Compound : Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $5.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Pro w/Service Pack 2 OEM $137.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Surge Protector : Opti-UPS ES1000C 8 Outlet 700 Watt $116.49 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1684...

Sound Card : Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $168.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
Joystick : Saitek CYBORGEVO Joystick - Retail $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...
Total $2,138.32
MAIL IN REBATES
MSI RX1900XT-VT2D512E Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $100.00 http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/...

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) - Retail $30.00 http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/...
Total After Rebates $2,008.32
August 18, 2006 12:41:32 PM

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I think this is everything that I'm going to go with. Let me know what you think. It's a little more than I wanted to spend, but hey, you get what you pay. Will the stock CPU Cooler be ok or should I get an aftermarket one?

Case : Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $152.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Video Card : MSI RX1900XT-VT2D512E Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $378.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Power Supply : ENERMAX Whisper II EG565P-VE FMA(24P) ATX12V 535W Power Supply $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Processor : Intel® Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe Processor 2.13GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 2MB Cache Retail $247.00 http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Memory : CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) - Retail $191.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Removable Storage : Sabrent 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Flash Memory Reader/Writer $11.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

3.5 Floppy Drive : SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model MPF920 Black - OEM $7.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Hard Drive : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Keyboard : Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black 104 Normal Keys 9 Function Keys USB Ergonomic Keyboard $21.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Monitor : HYUNDAI L90D+ Silver 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail 213.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Modem : BEST DATA 56HP 56Kbps PCI Bus (Plug and Play) Windows Internal Modem - Retail $8.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Mouse : Logitech MX518 931352-0403 2-Tone 8 Buttons 1x Wheel USB + PS/2 Optical Mouse - Retail $39.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

CD-RW/DVD-RW : 2 Lite-on SHW-160P6S04 16x8x16xDVD+RW / 16x6x16xDVD-RW / 48x24x48x CD-RW $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Thermal Compound : Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $5.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Pro w/Service Pack 2 OEM $137.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Surge Protector : Opti-UPS ES1000C 8 Outlet 700 Watt $116.49 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1684...

Sound Card : Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $168.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
Joystick : Saitek CYBORGEVO Joystick - Retail $32.99 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...
Total $2,138.32
MAIL IN REBATES
MSI RX1900XT-VT2D512E Radeon X1900XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $100.00 http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/...

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) - Retail $30.00 http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/rebate/...
Total After Rebates $2,008.32


Now that's a kickass gaming rig..:) 

You could even downsize to Windows XP Home edition. It supports Dual Core CPU's, the only difference is that it does not support a few networking tools that a home user is likely not to use (Domain controller etc). It costs less to boot, but that's up to you. I'm only recommending Windows XP Home Edition since Windows VISTA is due out in Jan-Feb 2007.
August 18, 2006 12:51:38 PM

I'll check into it, thanks :)  What do you think about the stock CPU cooler? Since I'm not going to be overclocking, do you think the stock one will be ok?
August 18, 2006 12:59:27 PM

Quote:
I'll check into it, thanks :)  What do you think about the stock CPU cooler? Since I'm not going to be overclocking, do you think the stock one will be ok?

Definatly ok, those processors don't heat up too much.

I suggest you read this on the differences between Windows XP Home and Pro.

Note: Windows XP Home does not support Two CPU sockets but does support Dual Core CPU's.
August 18, 2006 1:09:43 PM

I keep reading about people that use a program to monitor their pc temps. What is a good program to get? Later on, I might get a display for my rig for asthetics. LOL
August 18, 2006 1:15:24 PM

Quote:
I keep reading about people that use a program to monitor their pc temps. What is a good program to get? Later on, I might get a display for my rig for asthetics. LOL


Well since you're getting a Gigabyte board it comes with software to monitor your Temps..:) 

In other words... you're buying it when you buy the board.. it's pretty good software too.
August 18, 2006 1:17:48 PM

Sweet. Thanks for all the help, I appreciate it.
August 18, 2006 2:35:29 PM

Thanks for shutting logic sewuence down, EvilElimo. I got angry reading his suggestions. I think my grandmother knows better than to buy a PSU with a 30% excellent review and a 20% Very Poor... I mean... dude? Can he read? anyway... system looks great and if you decide you don't like it I'd gladly take it off your hands, MindFlare. Hell, I'll even pay shipping for yah :) . Looks just like what I'm getting soon! Best of luck putting it all together and what knot.
August 18, 2006 3:08:03 PM

ianhyphen, thanks, I'll need the luck, having never put one together myself, and as many components that I'm getting, I just hope they all work when I get them and everything goes together well. If I get stuck hope I can come in here and get some advise.
August 18, 2006 3:24:55 PM

the computer u have is basically the one im gonna build :) 
August 18, 2006 6:54:53 PM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.
August 18, 2006 6:56:05 PM

Quote:
Memory test:






ALL GAMES... no professional applications. Which is where you WILL see a difference with DDR2-800...

But whatever, don't listen, let the guy create a bottleneck in his machine, it's not sweat off my brow.
August 18, 2006 7:17:04 PM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.

K, have you not realised that I am running PC6400? not onyl that I posted benchmarks and tests that back my opinion.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but right now you're just baseless wild speculations and allegations without a shred of evidence.

Core 2 Duo's are not memory bandwidth hungry. They need memory memory that mathes there FSB (266Mhz) to run optimally. That's PC4200. Therefore the PC5400 I've recommended to him surpasses PC4200 (therefore giving him some room for expansion) while not being overkill (like PC6400 would be for his needs).

As for your comments on Enermax... they're the second best Power Supply makers in the world. They trail PC Power & Cooling only. The fact that I recommended a Whisper II model is do to the high performance and low noise.
August 18, 2006 11:46:01 PM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.

K, have you not realised that I am running PC6400? not onyl that I posted benchmarks and tests that back my opinion.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but right now you're just baseless wild speculations and allegations without a shred of evidence.

Core 2 Duo's are not memory bandwidth hungry. They need memory memory that mathes there FSB (266Mhz) to run optimally. That's PC4200. Therefore the PC5400 I've recommended to him surpasses PC4200 (therefore giving him some room for expansion) while not being overkill (like PC6400 would be for his needs).

As for your comments on Enermax... they're the second best Power Supply makers in the world. They trail PC Power & Cooling only. The fact that I recommended a Whisper II model is do to the high performance and low noise.

OK, but that still doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG. But if it makes you feel better, you win. Your peni$ is bigger. You know more about this than a triple major, with degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, and Game Art and Design. You know more than the guy who has been building his own computers since he was 15, went to college for them, got 3 majors in the computer feild, works with gaming rigs and professional workstations every day, owns both, and just built one for himself less than 3 weeks ago; oh AND designs and builds PC video games for a living. Congratulations ;) 
August 19, 2006 4:38:11 AM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.

K, have you not realised that I am running PC6400? not onyl that I posted benchmarks and tests that back my opinion.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but right now you're just baseless wild speculations and allegations without a shred of evidence.

Core 2 Duo's are not memory bandwidth hungry. They need memory memory that mathes there FSB (266Mhz) to run optimally. That's PC4200. Therefore the PC5400 I've recommended to him surpasses PC4200 (therefore giving him some room for expansion) while not being overkill (like PC6400 would be for his needs).

As for your comments on Enermax... they're the second best Power Supply makers in the world. They trail PC Power & Cooling only. The fact that I recommended a Whisper II model is do to the high performance and low noise.

OK, but that still doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG. But if it makes you feel better, you win. Your peni$ is bigger. You know more about this than a triple major, with degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, and Game Art and Design. You know more than the guy who has been building his own computers since he was 15, went to college for them, got 3 majors in the computer feild, works with gaming rigs and professional workstations every day, owns both, and just built one for himself less than 3 weeks ago; oh AND designs and builds PC video games for a living. Congratulations ;) 

Obviously I do...;)
Oh look.. Enermax maintains perfect efficiency even when maxed out..WOW.




So yes, anyone can claim anything online. I've proven you to be wrong with concrete evidence. By all means if I'm sooo wrong (which you've only got your own opinion as evidence) then please.. enlight us all on your infinite wisdom :roll:

Now let's compare that to the Antec he first had in mind...


See a pattern.. gee gosh I'm right :p ... oh and now New Eggs review of the Thermaltake Purepower..


I think you need to go back to school... maybe get 3 more degrees or something. Also I don't think graduating McDonalds burger flipping course is considered an engineering degree :p 
August 19, 2006 7:55:48 PM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.

K, have you not realised that I am running PC6400? not onyl that I posted benchmarks and tests that back my opinion.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but right now you're just baseless wild speculations and allegations without a shred of evidence.

Core 2 Duo's are not memory bandwidth hungry. They need memory memory that mathes there FSB (266Mhz) to run optimally. That's PC4200. Therefore the PC5400 I've recommended to him surpasses PC4200 (therefore giving him some room for expansion) while not being overkill (like PC6400 would be for his needs).

As for your comments on Enermax... they're the second best Power Supply makers in the world. They trail PC Power & Cooling only. The fact that I recommended a Whisper II model is do to the high performance and low noise.

OK, but that still doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG. But if it makes you feel better, you win. Your peni$ is bigger. You know more about this than a triple major, with degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, and Game Art and Design. You know more than the guy who has been building his own computers since he was 15, went to college for them, got 3 majors in the computer feild, works with gaming rigs and professional workstations every day, owns both, and just built one for himself less than 3 weeks ago; oh AND designs and builds PC video games for a living. Congratulations ;) 

Obviously I do...;)
Oh look.. Enermax maintains perfect efficiency even when maxed out..WOW.




So yes, anyone can claim anything online. I've proven you to be wrong with concrete evidence. By all means if I'm sooo wrong (which you've only got your own opinion as evidence) then please.. enlight us all on your infinite wisdom :roll:

Now let's compare that to the Antec he first had in mind...


See a pattern.. gee gosh I'm right :p ... oh and now New Eggs review of the Thermaltake Purepower..


I think you need to go back to school... maybe get 3 more degrees or something. Also I don't think graduating McDonalds burger flipping course is considered an engineering degree :p 


AWWWWW you're still in High School, that's cute... that explains the immaturity. Well you have fun playing childish name calling games ok sweetie? You have a nice day now ya'hear? :)  Buh-bye sweetie.
August 20, 2006 1:33:51 AM

Quote:

Having just built one of these systems for myself, i would suggest the following changes:

Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe, i've seen a lot of people posting the P5B runs C2D about 5-10C higher than they should.

PSU: Thermaltake PurePower 600W, with the rebate it's cheaper than your current choice and gives you more power, should you choose to upgrade to a kentsfeild or add a crossfire card in the future.

Memory: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 CL5, you're gonne hear a lot of people say DDR2 800 isn't worth it over DDR2-675, but it's just not the case with a C2D. C2D's make MUCH BETTER use of the DDR2-800 speeds than say Pentium D's. Definately go for 800. BUT don't spend money on a smaller cas latency. U'll notice little to no difference WHATSOEVER from that on an INTEL system. AMD systems will see a benifit b/c of the onboard memory controller on AMD processors. But trust me, it's not worth it on an intel system.

Monitor: Samsung 19" 8ms 700:1 920N, Get a 19". trust me u'll thank me for suggesting it. With rebates, this monitor is only $10 more, and it's MUCH bigger, same response time, and has a better contrast ratio. Trust me, u'll love going to 19", it's WELL WORTH IT, what do u have to loose?? it's ONLY $10 more!

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5, IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST. Hands down, no questions. THE NUMBER ONE BEST.


You should have probably read the rest of the thread. He's opted for a Gigabyte 965P board instead as it costs less and the P5W-DH is overkill for his needs.

PC6400 is not useful for a Core 2 Duo processor. You get no performance increase over PC5300/5400. It's only useful if you overclock, which the thread starter is not doing.

The Thermaltake Power Supply is not as good as the Enermax Power supply he's opted for instead of the Antec. Enermax > Antec > Thermaltake.

He's settled for a 19" LCD. The Hyundai L90D+ which uses the same panel as the Samsung 920N but is tweaked for a better gaming experience. The L90D+ > Samsung 920N.

:) 


I'm sorry to tell you that you are flat out WRONG about the memory. It may be that way when it comes to gaming, but not with other applications. And if you really want to overclock you should talk about DDR2-1066. I'm just telling you, you're wrong.

And you're wrong about the PSU as well, Enermax has fallen behind in recent years, they're not longer on the top.

K, have you not realised that I am running PC6400? not onyl that I posted benchmarks and tests that back my opinion.

You're allowed to have an opinion, but right now you're just baseless wild speculations and allegations without a shred of evidence.

Core 2 Duo's are not memory bandwidth hungry. They need memory memory that mathes there FSB (266Mhz) to run optimally. That's PC4200. Therefore the PC5400 I've recommended to him surpasses PC4200 (therefore giving him some room for expansion) while not being overkill (like PC6400 would be for his needs).

As for your comments on Enermax... they're the second best Power Supply makers in the world. They trail PC Power & Cooling only. The fact that I recommended a Whisper II model is do to the high performance and low noise.

OK, but that still doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG. But if it makes you feel better, you win. Your peni$ is bigger. You know more about this than a triple major, with degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, and Game Art and Design. You know more than the guy who has been building his own computers since he was 15, went to college for them, got 3 majors in the computer feild, works with gaming rigs and professional workstations every day, owns both, and just built one for himself less than 3 weeks ago; oh AND designs and builds PC video games for a living. Congratulations ;) 

Obviously I do...;)
Oh look.. Enermax maintains perfect efficiency even when maxed out..WOW.




So yes, anyone can claim anything online. I've proven you to be wrong with concrete evidence. By all means if I'm sooo wrong (which you've only got your own opinion as evidence) then please.. enlight us all on your infinite wisdom :roll:

Now let's compare that to the Antec he first had in mind...


See a pattern.. gee gosh I'm right :p ... oh and now New Eggs review of the Thermaltake Purepower..


I think you need to go back to school... maybe get 3 more degrees or something. Also I don't think graduating McDonalds burger flipping course is considered an engineering degree :p 


AWWWWW you're still in High School, that's cute... that explains the immaturity. Well you have fun playing childish name calling games ok sweetie? You have a nice day now ya'hear? :)  Buh-bye sweetie.

Hi this is your sweetie..:p 

Just wanting to emphasize how ridiculous your posts sound. When amounting an argument, especially one that would have mindflare pay more for certain computer parts, then you need to back up your claims with evidence. You cannot just claim that I am wrong without evidence.

I have proven, through links, independant tests etc that you are completely under qualified and out of line to make allegations with regards to my knowledge. Perhaps it would have been better for you to ask about my background rather then just assuming I was some punk kid.

I am an engineer, that's right not some little game designer or graphics artist. I have 2 degree's from 2 seperate Canadian institutions graduating top of my class. But that doesn't really mean anything as many people with degree's (you're proof of this) don't know a single thing about computer hardware.

In the eyes of other members of this forum (as some have been sending me PM messages) it is you who is completely wrong. It doesn't really matter anyways as my background (having worked for ATi Technologies, Smart technologies and running my own computer business (RA Computers)) is well beyond any knowledge you could have acquired given your level of education. It's clear, using your posts as evidence, that you're not anywhere near my intellectual level. It's not mean't as an insult but mearly an observation.
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