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January 13, 2005 11:20:41 AM

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We have 2 DNS servers, but when i create a record and select to added
an associated PTR (Pointer) record it doesn't do it. i have to add
these manually.

Does anypne know why?

Also the only replication that occurs between the 2 DNS servers is in
the forward lookup zones. No relication at all occurs between the
reverse lookup zones.

Can someone help

TIA

NIck Toseland
January 13, 2005 12:31:16 PM

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> >We have 2 DNS servers, but when i create a record and select to
added
>> an associated PTR (Pointer) record it doesn't do it. i have to add
> >these manually.

>> Does anypne know why?

>Which is the Primary? Which is the Secondary?

Primary is on a Server called ELROND
Secondary is on a sever called FILEPRINT????

>> Also the only replication that occurs between the 2 DNS servers is
in
>>the forward lookup zones. No relication at all occurs between the
>> reverse lookup zones.


>Replication for each is SEPARATE. There is NO
>(technical) connect between a Reverse and Forward
>zone.


so is there no way of replicating what is in the reverse lookup zones
on the ELROND DNS SERVER to the same reverse lookup zones on the
FILEPRINT DNS SERVER

Thanks

Nick
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 1:33:02 PM

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"Nick" <nickt9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105633241.649207.56030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> We have 2 DNS servers, but when i create a record and select to added
> an associated PTR (Pointer) record it doesn't do it. i have to add
> these manually.
>
> Does anypne know why?

Which is the Primary? Which is the Secondary?


> Also the only replication that occurs between the 2 DNS servers is in
> the forward lookup zones. No relication at all occurs between the
> reverse lookup zones.

Replication for each is SEPARATE. There is NO
(technical) connect between a Reverse and Forward
zone.

All such (apparent) connections are human interpretation
(e.g., we know the machines in a particulary zone mostly
happen to have addresses in the same Reverse zone range.)



--
Herb Martin


>
> TIA
>
> NIck Toseland
>
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January 13, 2005 1:53:13 PM

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Absolutely, is the FILEPrint server's reverse zone
set to use ELROND server as the "master"?

How do i check that?

What happens when you then manual "refresh from
master"?

Just Refreshes and does nothing else...

If the above doesn't fix it, take a look at the SERIAL
number on the SOA record (in the zone properties is
easiest) and see if the Secondary is (incorrectly) higher
than the Primary.


If higher, a secondary will not copy. If that is the
problem it is probably easier to delete and recreate the
zone giving Primary-ELROND as the master (again.)

Serial Numbers under the SOA tab

ELROND > Forward Lookup Zone > s1.com = 4
ELROND > Forward Lookup Zone > uk.sentry.net = 377
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.100.x subnet = 128
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.101.x subnet = 18
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.103.x subnet = 1
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.106.x subnet = 12
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >62.164.163.x subnet = 151
ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >137.223.225.x subnet = 20

FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.100.x subnet = 1
FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.101.x subnet = 1
FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.103.x subnet = 1
FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.106.x subnet = 1
FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >62.164.163.x subnet = 1
FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >137.223.225.x subnet = 1
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 2:37:58 PM

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> Primary is on a Server called ELROND
> Secondary is on a sever called FILEPRINT????

> so is there no way of replicating what is in the reverse lookup zones
> on the ELROND DNS SERVER to the same reverse lookup zones on the
> FILEPRINT DNS SERVER

Absolutely, is the FILEPrint server's reverse zone
set to use ELROND server as the "master"?

What happens when you then manual "refresh from
master"?

If the above doesn't fix it, take a look at the SERIAL
number on the SOA record (in the zone properties is
easiest) and see if the Secondary is (incorrectly) higher
than the Primary.

If higher, a secondary will not copy. If that is the
problem it is probably easier to delete and recreate the
zone giving Primary-ELROND as the master (again.)

--
Herb Martin


"Nick" <nickt9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105637476.550354.66610@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > >We have 2 DNS servers, but when i create a record and select to
> added
> >> an associated PTR (Pointer) record it doesn't do it. i have to add
> > >these manually.
>
> >> Does anypne know why?
>
> >Which is the Primary? Which is the Secondary?
>
> Primary is on a Server called ELROND
> Secondary is on a sever called FILEPRINT????
>
> >> Also the only replication that occurs between the 2 DNS servers is
> in
> >>the forward lookup zones. No relication at all occurs between the
> >> reverse lookup zones.
>
>
> >Replication for each is SEPARATE. There is NO
> >(technical) connect between a Reverse and Forward
> >zone.
>
>
> so is there no way of replicating what is in the reverse lookup zones
> on the ELROND DNS SERVER to the same reverse lookup zones on the
> FILEPRINT DNS SERVER
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 4:10:21 PM

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"Nick" <nickt9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105642393.745382.84920@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Absolutely, is the FILEPrint server's reverse zone
> set to use ELROND server as the "master"?
>
> How do i check that?

Look on the Zone properties (right click) in the MMC
(connect to that particular server of course.)

> What happens when you then manual "refresh from
> master"?
>
> Just Refreshes and does nothing else...

Well, are you IMPLYING they are wrong after the
refresh (that is the replication)?

> If the above doesn't fix it, take a look at the SERIAL
> number on the SOA record (in the zone properties is
> easiest) and see if the Secondary is (incorrectly) higher
> than the Primary.
>
>
> If higher, a secondary will not copy. If that is the
> problem it is probably easier to delete and recreate the
> zone giving Primary-ELROND as the master (again.)

Also look on the Master (in this case ELROND) to make
sure it PERMITS zone transfers to the IP of FILEPRINT
(or to all, or etc.)

--
Herb Martin


>
> Serial Numbers under the SOA tab
>
> ELROND > Forward Lookup Zone > s1.com = 4
> ELROND > Forward Lookup Zone > uk.sentry.net = 377
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.100.x subnet = 128
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.101.x subnet = 18
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.103.x subnet = 1
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.106.x subnet = 12
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >62.164.163.x subnet = 151
> ELROND > Reverse Lookup Zone >137.223.225.x subnet = 20
>
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.100.x subnet = 1
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.101.x subnet = 1
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.103.x subnet = 1
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >172.30.106.x subnet = 1
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >62.164.163.x subnet = 1
> FILEPRINT > Reverse Lookup Zone >137.223.225.x subnet = 1
>
January 14, 2005 5:41:55 AM

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Herb, this DNS setup is complete screwed up... Why did i get give this
task ... arrgghhh

When i create a new Zone on the ELROND server, Dynamic updates
defaults to NO ans there is only one Name server entry under the Name
Servers tab, which says to me that somebody has missed some config
somewhere?

any ideas
January 14, 2005 11:27:57 AM

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And voila, it is now replicating when i click refresh... Herb your a
great help....

BUT I give up with the PTR records..

as when i create a new host in the forward lookup zone

ie 172.30.100.20 and select the "Create associated PTR record" check
box

it does not add an entry in the reverse lookup zone
"100.30.172.in-addr.arpa.dns"

one minor problem
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 12:10:12 PM

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"Nick" <nickt9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Herb, this DNS setup is complete screwed up... Why did i get give this
> task ... arrgghhh

We will help. You will learn.

DNS is NOT hard but it can require PRECISION at times.

> When i create a new Zone on the ELROND server, Dynamic updates
> defaults to NO ans there is only one Name server entry under the Name
> Servers tab,

So add the other one by name or IP.

> which says to me that somebody has missed some config
> somewhere?

Or did it from another machine. The MMC is in NO WAY
the authority on the DNS servers -- it is merely a tool, where
you can look at one or more DNS servers, but you may have
to ADD them to get started.

If you are really stumped, you can call me. Numbers on
my website: http://www.LearnQuick.Com

--
Herb Martin


>
> any ideas
>
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 2:25:43 PM

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"Nick" <nickt9999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> And voila, it is now replicating when i click refresh... Herb your a
> great help....
>
> BUT I give up with the PTR records..

Ok, since Reverse zones are not really important to
most INTERNAL zones -- they are important for
things like external Mail servers usually.

But notice that Reverse zones are PRECISELY like
the Forward zones in the way that you MANAGE them,
but they are COMPLETELY unrelated to the forward
zone(s) technically.

All such relationships are in the minds of use humans.

> as when i create a new host in the forward lookup zone
>
> ie 172.30.100.20 and select the "Create associated PTR record" check
> box

Did you create the Reverse zone on that server yet?
You cannot create the record in a zone that does not
exist.

> it does not add an entry in the reverse lookup zone
> "100.30.172.in-addr.arpa.dns"

That zone is misnamed: there should be NO ".dns"
on the end of the zone name -- that is FINE for the
FILE name which holds the zone but not for the
zone, which should be:

100.30.172.in-addr.arpa.


Is that (same) DNS server PRIMARY for the zone?

Or, CAN you add it there manually?

> one minor problem

Maybe you hit send by accident without finishing -- I
used to do that a LOT <grin> by leaving the Pointer
over the Reply button in OE which turns into the
Send button on a NEW message.

--
Herb Martin


>
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