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Weird problem with new X850XT

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August 19, 2006 1:22:38 AM

I just got my Sapphire X850XT earlier today and installed it, along with a fresh install on a new HD.

I used the software that came with the card, and then updated with ones from ATI's site. But sometimes, these spots... like, the inverted color, appear on my screen. It starts with a few here and there and usually they disappear if I refresh my desktop. But with time, more and more build it and they start to disappear/reappear randomly.

Any ideas as to what to do? This didn't happen with my PowerColor X800GTO but I'm really hoping it's not my monitor.

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Since I can't try this any games yet because Steam takes so long to update and what not, I ran 3DMark 05 demo and during all the demos, there were these breakups everywhere. Not sure what they're called but it's like whole polygons go missing and instead I see empty black spots.

I installed ATI tool just now and saw that just after that slight use, the temps were at 44C! Sapphire's default settings have the fans at 5% unless the card runs at like above 98C. WTF? Anyway, I adjusted it be on full blast at all times but this things loud... hopefully it'll solve the issues though.

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August 19, 2006 3:22:39 AM

5% fan speed? No way, maybe 35%.....

Anywho, you can leave it around 50% and still be fine, but your experiencing some nice artifacts it sounds like.
August 19, 2006 3:56:40 AM

Nope, it was indeed at 5%. It seems that's what it is for most people according to the reviews posted at Newegg.

Anyway, adjusting the fan speed at max helped get rid of the artifacts (guess that's what they're called).

With the default 5% fan speed, the card runs at 44C at idle and hit a blazing 84C before freezing and shutting down HL2. I don't know what Sapphire was thinking.

Luckily for ATItool allowing me to have variable fan speeds. I have to keep it at 50% to keep idle below 40C and a full blast for any task requiring the graphics card. This card is freakin' loud and very hot... and amazingly enough, some people have actually OCed it! 8O
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August 19, 2006 4:17:37 AM

Nevermind... that didn't work too well. The card just overheats. Looks like I might have to get a aftermarket cooler for it or play my games toned down a bit. :( 
August 19, 2006 4:40:06 AM

? Wierd...shouldnt overheat, unless your case has really poor ventilation.

Ensure there's proper contact between the HS and the core....also a little job of AS5 could never hurt...
August 19, 2006 4:42:46 AM

My case should have great ventilation... there's even a vent for the GPU and I can definitely feel the air being sucked in there.

I'll see if the HS on there right and try some AS5. But this is ridiculous... I click on scan for artifacts on ATItool and within seconds I get artifacts!:( 
August 19, 2006 4:50:34 AM

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Nevermind... that didn't work too well. The card just overheats. Looks like I might have to get a aftermarket cooler for it or play my games toned down a bit. :( 


What are the card's temps at full load with the fan speed at 100%?
August 19, 2006 5:16:19 AM

It averages around 58C at full load with 100% fan speed.

But the problems start very early... check these images out.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8... - No, this isn't the side of a cliff.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8... - It's a lot worse than it looks.

Note that the temps go down because I had to pause and minimize the game to save the pics, allowing for the GPU to go down.

This is my card, BTW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
August 19, 2006 5:56:54 AM

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It averages around 58C at full load with 100% fan speed.

But the problems start very early... check these images out.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8... - No, this isn't the side of a cliff.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/fyreboltx/sappx8... - It's a lot worse than it looks.

Note that the temps go down because I had to pause and minimize the game to save the pics, allowing for the GPU to go down.

This is my card, BTW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


There must be something wrong with the card; 58C is a normal temperature for a grahpics card. I'd RMA it to newegg; they're very good with that kind of stuff.
August 19, 2006 6:17:37 AM

*sigh* I feared as much.:cry: 

It's going to suck to be without a card for who knows how long... not to mention that I've had to RMA 3 things already with this build already. I hope they won't think I'm abusing their policy or anything. :oops: 
August 19, 2006 6:49:27 AM

so many RMAs from newegg... that doesn't say much of the company's quality control.

Sheesh.
August 19, 2006 10:13:28 AM

newegg can't have quality control over products because there is no way to test everything. How do you expect them to know products are bad? That's why they have the fast and reliable RMA service because they know they sell products that are rushed out (video cards).

I think a lot of problems stem from improper PSUs myself.
August 19, 2006 3:12:28 PM

I have a 1 year old X850XTPE made by ATI. The fan is also stuck at 5% till around 90degrees :( 

You could try updating drivers, I had artifacts in Flightsimulator with old drivers, then new ones fixed it. If that dosn't work, I'd RMA, in Oblivion mine gets to 92 degrees and it runs fine :wink:
August 19, 2006 4:47:44 PM

Ok, well... at least I can RMA it and hopefully they'll get it back to me soon. How long does it normally take?
August 19, 2006 6:41:11 PM

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so many RMAs from newegg... that doesn't say much of the company's quality control.
Sheesh.


newegg is a vendor NOT a manufacteror, they have nothing to do with QA on any product.
August 19, 2006 7:12:51 PM

Mine was exactly the same, from powercooler, sent it back the other day. They are checking it this weekend and sending me a new one when tis checked. Mine got so bad in the end it would do it on the desktop aswell. Will keep u informed what my new one is like.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/CallumNLaw/deskto...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/CallumNLaw/Unreal...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/CallumNLaw/Quake4...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/CallumNLaw/AOE3.j...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/CallumNLaw/Whatth...
August 20, 2006 3:35:26 PM

Um... ok, now I'm completely lost.

I moved back to college and my computer came with me, faulty GPU and all. And when I tried to start it, it wouldn't power on. I couldn't figure out why but it worked after I resteated the memory.

Then, being bored.. I decided to try Half Life hoping that I could play it without those artifacts. Luckily it worked just fine. Then I went to check on the card temps a saw that it was at 45C. So I tried some of my graphics heavy games. The temps shot up but the artifacts never appeared. :o 

I'm glad it works but I'm also confused as to why it is working. Could just have been due to the memory?
August 20, 2006 3:48:53 PM

I dont see where RAM and artifacts would be connected...

So that you can just about rule out. The only thing to cause such issues would be the GPU.
August 20, 2006 5:47:21 PM

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I have a 1 year old X850XTPE made by ATI. The fan is also stuck at 5% till around 90degrees :( 

You could try updating drivers, I had artifacts in Flightsimulator with old drivers, then new ones fixed it. If that dosn't work, I'd RMA, in Oblivion mine gets to 92 degrees and it runs fine :wink:


How's that X850XT working for you in FS2004? Are you going to upgrade for FSX?
August 21, 2006 5:40:16 AM

Glad it works..... That actually happened to my friend, I never beleived him though untill you :lol: 
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I have a 1 year old X850XTPE made by ATI. The fan is also stuck at 5% till around 90degrees :( 

You could try updating drivers, I had artifacts in Flightsimulator with old drivers, then new ones fixed it. If that dosn't work, I'd RMA, in Oblivion mine gets to 92 degrees and it runs fine :wink:


How's that X850XT working for you in FS2004? Are you going to upgrade for FSX?
It runs fs2004 awsomely, 100% maxed out! here are some pics that I took

I have the fsX demo, and it runs very good! heres fsX demo review and pics.
August 21, 2006 6:23:13 AM

i have my core overclocked at 580, which is decent for an x850xt, at 585 i start to get artifacts, and that is with the stock fan, and how did you change the fan speed, i guess i have an old version of ATI Tool and not the new one
August 21, 2006 6:28:08 AM

Try under-clocking the memory it to see if that fixes the problem.
August 21, 2006 7:18:17 AM

I had a very similar problem with a 6800GT. It turned out to be a power issue. I had the GPU running on the same rail as two of my HDDs. Once I gave it it's own power it resolved all of the issues.
August 21, 2006 8:32:37 AM

I just ordered a SAPPHIRE X850XT (on its way) and I'm hoping that I don't run into any of these problems.

How important is it for this card to get is own power (not shared with anything else)?
August 21, 2006 11:34:17 AM

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Glad it works..... That actually happened to my friend, I never beleived him though untill you :lol: 
I have a 1 year old X850XTPE made by ATI. The fan is also stuck at 5% till around 90degrees :( 

You could try updating drivers, I had artifacts in Flightsimulator with old drivers, then new ones fixed it. If that dosn't work, I'd RMA, in Oblivion mine gets to 92 degrees and it runs fine :wink:


How's that X850XT working for you in FS2004? Are you going to upgrade for FSX?
It runs fs2004 awsomely, 100% maxed out! here are some pics that I took

I have the fsX demo, and it runs very good! heres fsX demo review and pics.

That's awesome! Are you a beta-tester? How'd you get the demo? I'm glad to see that I have a few more options if I want to go the inexpensive route for a good video card for the next 6 months or so. How important is your CPU for FSX? Do you think an X2 3800 will run it well?

How will a card that runs SM 2.0 run on a game that runs SM 3.0? Does anyone know?
August 21, 2006 2:22:16 PM

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How will a card that runs SM 2.0 run on a game that runs SM 3.0? Does anyone know?


You will run those games using SM2.0 and this will cause you to have a slighty reduced "shadow" experience but will give you better frame rates anyway. :wink:
August 21, 2006 11:06:09 PM

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i have my core overclocked at 580, which is decent for an x850xt, at 585 i start to get artifacts, and that is with the stock fan, and how did you change the fan speed, i guess i have an old version of ATI Tool and not the new one


You can't really check the fan speed, at least I don't think so. All you can do is change the percentage of the max fan speed that's being used.

Like, Sapphire set the fan speed to 5% of the max as long as temps remain under 98C. ATITool lets you change the fan speeds to different temps or keep the fan/GPU temp at a fixed speed.

Go to settings (on the bottom right), and then select Fan Control on the pull down box.

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I just ordered a SAPPHIRE X850XT (on its way) and I'm hoping that I don't run into any of these problems.

How important is it for this card to get is own power (not shared with anything else)?


It seems to be a rare case as I didn't see too many of these cards showcase the problem. But there are 4 different types of X850XTs from Sapphire and they're all similar in specs I think.
August 22, 2006 6:03:43 AM

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Glad it works..... That actually happened to my friend, I never beleived him though untill you :lol: 
I have a 1 year old X850XTPE made by ATI. The fan is also stuck at 5% till around 90degrees :( 

You could try updating drivers, I had artifacts in Flightsimulator with old drivers, then new ones fixed it. If that dosn't work, I'd RMA, in Oblivion mine gets to 92 degrees and it runs fine :wink:


How's that X850XT working for you in FS2004? Are you going to upgrade for FSX?
It runs fs2004 awsomely, 100% maxed out! here are some pics that I took

I have the fsX demo, and it runs very good! heres fsX demo review and pics.

That's awesome! Are you a beta-tester? How'd you get the demo? I'm glad to see that I have a few more options if I want to go the inexpensive route for a good video card for the next 6 months or so. How important is your CPU for FSX? Do you think an X2 3800 will run it well?

How will a card that runs SM 2.0 run on a game that runs SM 3.0? Does anyone know?
Hehe ;)  The demo is availible here.

I have a Pentium 4 650, and it runs the game very well. Processor is definatly more important than video card in fsX, so a X2 3800+ will run the game very well. The game dosn't utilize two cores very well, but it does. Core 1 (logical) was at 100% while Core 2 (logical) was at 50%.

In fsX the terrain engine is dependant on the CPU, with a slow one with terrain won't load properly and will look bad. Not much VRAM also stops the terrain from looking good ;) 
August 23, 2006 12:57:46 AM

So you think I should go with an E6300 build over an X2 3800+ build? This is one the games I'm building around...I was wondering if because of the newer DX9 graphics, I would need a powerhouse video card to get the full effects.
August 23, 2006 5:22:50 AM

Yes.
You need a good CPU AND a good GPU for fsX. But with a mediocre CPU and an awsome graphics card, the ground will be blurred + the game will pause often.
So good CPU + good video card = balenced = good graphics + smooth game.
!