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August 21, 2006 5:47:38 AM

I'm thinking of upgrading to an NVidia 6 series graphics card. I have an AGP slot only, no PCI-e. My question is, is it wise to invest on the 6800LE or should I just get a 6600GT? And is there much difference if I get a 128MB 6600 or the 256MB 6600, non GT version? I'm on a very tight budget.
August 21, 2006 6:46:37 AM

LE cards are terrible
the 6600gt 128mb is a good card 4 a reasonable price.
there isn't much difference between 128 and 256MB 6600gt or nonGT.

If u r gonna put it into the comp that is listed in your signature(the 557mhz pentium3 with 256mB ram)

1) that m/b probly only has a 4x AGPport(maybe)
2) a 6600gt will be overkill. the cpu will severly bottleneck the gpu.
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August 21, 2006 7:09:13 AM

Nah Giraffe, that ain't my PC in my signature. Well, it used to be. Just put it there for a few laughs. It only has a 2x AGP port by the way.

Anyways, I have an Intel Celeron 336 processor running on a Sapphire Axion (VIA P4M800Pro) mobo, with 2x512MB PC-533 DDR2 RAM. Currenlty I don't have a video card. I'm using onboard video. I used to have a radeon 9550 but it broke. I'm finding a good replacement. Maybe I'll go for the 6600 non GT. Budget really is that tight.

I use my PC mainly for photo editing and playing a few games such as F1 challenge '99-'02 by EA Sports and other racing games. I plan on getting Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter. Just need to know if the 6600 could handle that game.
August 21, 2006 7:17:51 AM

ok then
another option could be a x700pro/xt
it is almost as good as the 6600gt(maybe 10% crapper) but certainly better than the 6600standard.
im not sure on pricing where u live but here in aus i have seen the x700pro for 99$
The 6600gt is about 160$+
August 21, 2006 9:11:11 AM

i would just go for the 6600gt i loved that card.. as for GR Adanced Warfare... i think you should be able... i have seen some reviews and its very graphics hungry.... but the gf6600gt should do it :) 
August 22, 2006 2:42:59 AM

Is the gap between the standard 6600 and 6600GT that big? And, I'm giving some thought on the X700 too. What's the difference between pro and the xt?
August 22, 2006 2:55:10 AM

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i would just go for the 6600gt i loved that card.. as for GR Adanced Warfare... i think you should be able... i have seen some reviews and its very graphics hungry.... but the gf6600gt should do it :) 


no chance, ive got my 6600gt clocked at 600/1150ish and its really struggles with GR adv warfare. can hardly run it. idealy u need a 7XXX or a X1000 card.

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Is the gap between the standard 6600 and 6600GT that big? And, I'm giving some thought on the X700 too. What's the difference between pro and the xt?


the 6600 has a 64bit interface and ddr2 ram. which means that is much slower than the 128bit 6600gt. doesnt sound much but it will chop the FPS in half. e.g
fear max settings at 1024x800 is min of 16 FPS with an av 46.

if i was u id look for a 9800 series. its ur on a buget it gives performance and its AGP. go eBay it. just dont get the 6600
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August 22, 2006 2:58:32 AM

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I'm thinking of upgrading to an NVidia 6 series graphics card. I have an AGP slot only, no PCI-e. My question is, is it wise to invest on the 6800LE or should I just get a 6600GT? And is there much difference if I get a 128MB 6600 or the 256MB 6600, non GT version? I'm on a very tight budget.


None of the above...snag a 6800GT Ultra off the used market...IMO, it's still the best pre-PCIe 8x AGP video card ever made!
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August 22, 2006 3:10:45 AM

I didn't look at all the choices posted here, but the 6800gs "link" to newegg, is close to an old 6800gt that I have. After upgrading a few times, it ended up on a p4/2.4 478 board, and it shows good results.

If you decide not to get that one, try and get a 256/256 card. The 128's don't have it.... and yes, it does make a difference. If you play cod2, you'll be able to see the heat coming off the desert. An older 9600 ati card, with 128bit memory, you can't..... just using that as an example.... but I have that card too, so I know what I'm talking about.
August 22, 2006 3:27:44 AM

GET THE 6600GT, the NON GT is really bad. Itz just a few extra dollars for alot more performance. Dont get the X700, under par performance. 6600GT is the only good card in the price range... I have 1 on a p4 2.4B 1gig ddr266 ram. Runs ALL the new games, FEAR, Oblivion, Prey, on Med settings, itz a really good card, TRUST ME, it will blow your brain out compared to the crappy 9550.
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August 22, 2006 4:33:22 AM

The 6800 in the link has 12 pixel pipelines. The 6600 has 8. How can you justify the lesser card ?
August 22, 2006 5:36:00 AM

Its justified because of price/performance ration. The 6600GT (which I am currently using) is an awesome card. Its a great all around card for a great price. I have the XFX version of the card and it overclocks great, and is a very stable performer even after lots of abuse. If would call it the Jeep of videocards, its not expensive but still gets all the functionality you need. The new 7950 dual core would be like a dodge viper has lots of performance but your definatly paying for it... and I would say the SIS xabre 200 would be the geo metro of the videocard realm. But a 6600GT can be had for 100 bucks... but for that price i would go with this videocard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
its the ATI 1600Pro 256mb and 12 pixel pipelines. For the money it cant be beat. I am a hardcore Nvidia fan, but you really cant do better then this card. Yeah I know the card isnt AGP, but I got lazy and just gave you a link the PCI-X version. Either way a damn good card. Good lucky buddy
August 22, 2006 6:39:46 AM

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the 6600 has a 64bit interface and ddr2 ram. which means that is much slower than the 128bit 6600gt. doesnt sound much but it will chop the FPS in half. e.g fear max settings at 1024x800 is min of 16 FPS with an av 46.

if i was u id look for a 9800 series. its ur on a buget it gives performance and its AGP. go eBay it. just dont get the 6600


Does the newer version of the 6600 with the ddr2 ram only has 64-bit interface?? Mine had a 128-bit, that was the model before the ddr2.
August 22, 2006 10:01:52 AM

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the 6600 has a 64bit interface and ddr2 ram. which means that is much slower than the 128bit 6600gt. doesnt sound much but it will chop the FPS in half. e.g
fear max settings at 1024x800 is min of 16 FPS with an av 46.

if i was u id look for a 9800 series. its ur on a buget it gives performance and its AGP. go eBay it. just dont get the 6600


well i am not saying the 9800 series is bad but do get your facts right. the 6600 regular does not have 64bit inter. it has 128 just like the 6600gt. the only difference between the GT and Reg. is that GT that DDR 3 and higher core clock, yes it is better and on new games you can notice the difference.
as for 64bit inter. that is the gf 6200 it is one of the lowest 6'series card and is a 6600 with half the pipelines and 64bit.inter.
August 22, 2006 1:06:51 PM

I tried flashing the bios of my 9550 to a 9600. Weird thing is it works and it kinda solved my problem with the video hanging while I'm in the middle of something. And it's a bit faster than when it used to be a 9550. I think this'd buy me more time to save up for a speedy 6 or 7 series nvidia card. Thanks for all your help.
August 22, 2006 1:17:51 PM

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Does the newer version of the 6600 with the ddr2 ram only has 64-bit interface?? Mine had a 128-bit, that was the model before the ddr2.


that might be cos its the 256 model. the 128meg model has a 64bit wide interface.

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well i am not saying the 9800 series is bad but do get your facts right. the 6600 regular does not have 64bit inter.


pretty sure ive seen 6600 with a 64bit interface. altho im wondering if its only the 128 version of the card now.
August 22, 2006 3:18:38 PM

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Does the newer version of the 6600 with the ddr2 ram only has 64-bit interface?? Mine had a 128-bit, that was the model before the ddr2.


that might be cos its the 256 model. the 128meg model has a 64bit wide interface.

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well i am not saying the 9800 series is bad but do get your facts right. the 6600 regular does not have 64bit inter.


pretty sure ive seen 6600 with a 64bit interface. altho im wondering if its only the 128 version of the card now.

well i am sorry to break it to you .. but here is just a list of gf 6600 128mb versions and they are all 128bit.
plz get your facts right
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August 22, 2006 4:42:38 PM

The GF6600 does come in a 64bit flavour but it the rarer kind and usually gets the LE suffix stamp, but not all mfr stick by that which could cause confusion.

Here's the eVGA and ProLink 64bit versions;

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=128-P2-N35...

http://www.prolink.com.tw/english/products/vga/PCX/GeFo...

However the vast majority of the GF600 line is 128bit, but it just depends on the one he saw personally.

BTW, you link doesn't work. But I see it was to NewEgg which is far from a definitive source on anything other than what's on NewEggg (If it isn't in stock there, that means it doesn't exist?).
August 22, 2006 5:16:34 PM

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they are all 128bit.
plz get your facts right


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The GF6600 does come in a 64bit flavour but it the rarer kind and usually gets the LE suffix stamp, but not all mfr stick by that which could cause confusion.


before u start telling people to get thier facts right check ur own maybe??
August 22, 2006 5:46:11 PM

try to find some of the almost out of stock PNY 6600GT in compusa for under $ 100 ... 6600 GT have better clock than 6800 , even 128 bit band would be a good reason say that this card would be worse than a 256 bit band 6800 ...in real world 6600 GT performs better... if you can find a used 6800 GT...well you will be much better...
August 22, 2006 5:52:22 PM

I can't believe that you just wrote that all le cards are crap. Have you seen any benchmarks with 6600gt and 6800le. They perform about equal at stock and are usually about the same prize.

6800le are a good card. It is the same as 6800 exept for a different bios that has locked 8 pipes insted of 4 as in the 6800. Sometimes some of the pipes may be defect, but you are almost guarantied to be able to unlock something, and even if you can't, it is still as good as 6600gt.
August 22, 2006 6:49:38 PM

the 6800le arnt good cards. good cards are something specail. a 6800le working at the same speed as a 6600gt is no good thing.

u would hope the 6800 seires would be a step up from the 6600 lot. not equals. its just getting rid of old GPUs and locking them to slower speeds.

anyhow. the 6XXX series is dead and gone now shaders are picking up the pace. the Inno3D 7600GST is a bit of a bragin at the mo,

its a 7600gt underclocked. it will run at full speeds for about £30 less.

12 pipelines and 256GDDR3 @ 1.4 (oc to 1.52 quite happily)
August 22, 2006 8:32:24 PM

All this over the 6600 and 6800LE? In Nvidia-speak LE = Lame Edition.
Sheesh, just get the fastest card for your budget. The cards you are getting hot and bothered over all pretty much sell for $100 now.
August 22, 2006 9:29:19 PM

My 2cents worth.....I love my Leadteck 6600GT AGP ....Been a great card...But upgradin system....So the wife is getin this great card. Get the 6600GT Any brand ..there GREAT you wont be sorry at all.
August 22, 2006 10:30:28 PM

Just get that 6800 that I linked to earlier; it's faster than the 6600, 6600GT, 6800LE, X800GTO, and all other cards that have been mentioned.
August 23, 2006 10:36:28 AM

why buy a 6800gt for 170$ and there is a 7600gt for the same price
August 23, 2006 12:05:02 PM

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Just get that 6800 that I linked to earlier; it's faster than the 6600, 6600GT, 6800LE, X800GTO, and all other cards that have been mentioned.


The 6800 may be faster then the x800gto, but if you get the fireblade edition of the gto it will OC very nice because of the x850xt cooling on it :D 

Some people get it to a 3dmark05 score of 5800. Wich is nice, i just didnt had that much luck :lol: 
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August 23, 2006 5:25:17 PM

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why buy a 6800gt for 170$ and there is a 7600gt for the same price


Well there aren't any GTs in AGP for sale yet (all pre-order), but the GF7600GS would be a better consideration IMO than a GF6600 series or cripples GF6800 eries card. The minimum for GF6800 would need to be GF6800GS imo as I'd take a GF7600GS over a plain GF6800 personally.

Of course depnds on prices as to what makes sense between a GF7600GS and GF6800GS, etc.
August 24, 2006 1:04:08 AM

I should've bought a mobo with PCI-e instead of AGP. PCI-e graphics cards are far more inexpensive than AGP. I've checked out the prices. Oh well, maybe I'll get a new mobo too. And a CPU while I'm at it. Geez, that's a whole new system. My expenses are just getting bigger and bigger. Wish I was just born a millionaire...or amish.
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August 24, 2006 1:33:11 AM

Well the thing is if you have a Celeron 336 (for a second there I thought is was a Celeron 333MHZ 8O ) , the the S775 should fit into a new PCIe MoBo without concern for needing a new CPU yet.

Just get a solid MoBo that supports future CPUs (like Conroe [which would be many of the i965 MoBos]) and then later when you want to upgrade you won't have to buy again.
August 27, 2006 3:40:10 AM

the man says he is on a tight budget....

jeeze, this thread is like a train wreck

lemme tell ya something about video cards

just buy whatever you can afford - and if you are going to ask questions just toss out an exact dollar amount

say i have $whatever to spend PERIOD* not 1 nickle more - whats the best video card for me?

otherwise you will get this endless quibling from the "experts"

lemme tell you what i have in my system - Chaintech Geforce 6200 256mb (not that TC crap) unlocked to 8 pipelines - 1gig of ram - Sempron3400+

i can play a round or 2 of Battlefield2 - at 1024x768 without even 1 frame lost - i dont have a clue what the benchmark scores are so dont ask - but it works just fine

just buy what you can afford - im sure that anything post 6200 for your system will play the games you want for now, don't sweat it to much
August 27, 2006 3:50:41 AM

in response to Ghost Recon:

from: http://www.2404.org/reviews/1135/Ghost-Recon:-Advanced-...

Quote: The minimum system requirements are so ridiculously underpowered it's hard to even make a clever remark about it, and even with a 3.5GHz processor, a gig of RAM, and a GeForce 7600, I was only able to get medium-to-low detail settings to run smoothly. The game wouldn't even let me place settings in the upper range.

so um good luck with that
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