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Interesting 6800GS unlock topic.

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August 22, 2006 3:02:18 AM

I am discussing in another forum with people who had no luck in unlocking their 6800GS agps. Apparently, because they can't "see" artifacts in games but have them when running ATITool they are going to keep the pipes unlocked. I told them it would be a bad idea because you're using known defective pipes.

They say they have no issues and games run faster and the artifacts are minimum to no biggie.

What do you guys think?
August 22, 2006 3:04:17 AM

artifacts = bad period.

turn up the settings to stress the card more. the artifacts are bound to come
August 22, 2006 10:59:54 AM

It's a heated topic. Some people have artifacts in ATITools and nothing else because of the picky nature of ATITools. Others have "seen" a few yellow artifacts every now and then but on such a minor scale that they don't care. Others have bad artifacts and had to turn their pipes off again.

Some people say it damages the card others say it's stupid to worry about and the speed increase is really good.

So far a lot of people are unlocking their bad cards again because of this!

I just thought it was interesting.
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August 22, 2006 12:59:33 PM

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Some people say it damages the card


Yet another perfect example of people discussing with authority things they don't understand.
August 22, 2006 1:04:03 PM

Correct as a few people posting say that alas, they have ran the card for a long time with the bad pipes and had no impact.

Hmm!
August 22, 2006 1:53:54 PM

I have the 6800gs AGP, running with the extra vetrix & pixl pipes unlocked for the last 9 months & had no issues & NO ARTIFACTS.
August 22, 2006 2:05:05 PM

Uhh the 6800GS came out December 2005. So did you use a time machine to get one in 2004?

Just curious 8O
August 22, 2006 2:17:19 PM

lol!!!...... 8O
August 22, 2006 2:21:06 PM

I have an asus 6800 agp and have unlocked the extra pipelines for over 3 months now and they work 100% no errors, artifacts whatsoever. I have modded the bios so I can run it without having to install extra programs such as RivaTuner every single time. To my knowledge it's just random of what you gonna get. Some get the card and unlock and everything goes well (as me for example). Some get the one with the defective pipelines. As far as I know they had a big problem with defective pipelines at the start of manufacturing. After some time that had been solved and they just kept the gs line and just disable the pipes under bios. (talking about agp version, pci express got laser cut [bummer])
So probably if you buy one that is manufactured relatively recently it probably ain't gonna have bad pipelines, prob. bios disabled ones. So you gonna end up owing a gt version with the money of a gs! (and also if you get unlucky simply return it asap and get your money back)
I hope this will help you.
August 22, 2006 2:31:15 PM

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Uhh the 6800GS came out December 2005. So did you use a time machine to get one in 2004?
Just curious 8O


Why does it always take video cards of the future to convince people that time machines do exist?????? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
August 22, 2006 3:04:03 PM

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Uhh the 6800GS came out December 2005. So did you use a time machine to get one in 2004?

Just curious 8O


That picture that you're looking at is the Wusy Edition 9800SE with an AMD HS/F.
August 22, 2006 3:15:18 PM

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Uhh the 6800GS came out December 2005. So did you use a time machine to get one in 2004?

Just curious 8O


His post indicates he's had it for about nine months. That would take us back to about Dec. 2005. :oops:  :roll:
August 22, 2006 4:27:08 PM

The picture would not load up for me so I assumed it was a 6800GS.

Oops! I don't know why but it still won't load up. 8O
August 22, 2006 4:56:01 PM

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Correct as a few people posting say that alas, they have ran the card for a long time with the bad pipes and had no impact.

Hmm!



You're looking at one right now that has been gamed for 2yrs.
I'll be more than happy to pwn those nay sayers.

hey wusy what did you use to get that hsf on the gpu? My stock hsf fan for my vid card lost a few blades so now I have my amd fan glued onto the heat sink and I would rather just do what you did with my whole amd hsf. I looked into AS glue but it said not to use it on a cpu because it gets too hot and didnt go that way bc gpu gets hotter.
August 22, 2006 5:10:43 PM

Dang, I need to pay a bit more attention to who's replying to who. :oops: 
my bad...
August 22, 2006 5:44:26 PM

I have one that i bought used. it did artifact when i unlocked the card in ati tools but i overclocked anyway. running any of the 3dmarks or games it does not artifact.(quake 4 may have some minor issues)
So needless to say i just stopped running ati tool. lol Oh and i play all of the recent games
an issue did arise but not sure when it occured with second (dvi) connector if i use it its just makes it everything yellow (like using yellow lense sunglasses) its been like that for over a year but now rarely game with that machine.
August 22, 2006 5:59:44 PM

I had a 9800SE that I had softmoded, used an arctic cooler heatsink on it. It modded with a few artifacts, but with the ability to crank up the settings on most games to their max, I was happy to deal with them. About 6 months later, the card completely died on me. Computer wouldn't even boot with the card in it. I don't know what caused it to crap out, and honestly I don't think it was the unlock, but it might have been.
August 22, 2006 7:14:44 PM

You have to get a stable o/c first, then you unlock the pipes. not the other way around.
August 22, 2006 7:15:40 PM

@ Wusy

I need to post some pics of my TT Typhoon/X1800XT mod.


Too all.

Not ALL 6800GS' will unlock. I'm not talking specifically AGP either.
Many are NOT AGP. I've physically dealt with several AGP 6800GS'.
Two were NV40 based which unlocked without problem, the other was a very interesting card. It was NV42 based with an HSI bridge to allow AGP use, and it was not unlockable.
August 23, 2006 4:49:50 AM

I feel dumb. My 6800GS I've had for a week now (bought it from a friend for cheap) and I have been having some issues with lockups in games and the machine not posting a screen when I would turn it back on. My spider sense told me to look at the 12V rail layout in my PC.

Last week when I re-did the wiring in my computer I somehow managed to get my HDD and Zalman Fata1ity cooler on the same power chain as the 6800GS. NO WONDER. I now have the video card on the 12V rail by itself and no problems anymore.

I know better than that!

All of you may taunt me now.
August 23, 2006 4:55:02 AM

Also when I unlock the pipes I get no artifacts in gaming and the usual in ATI Tools (slight artifacts which I ignore).

However I notice almost no performance increase!
BFG 6800GS 370mhz core 1.05ghz memory.

I plan to overclock sometime.

Doom 3 I get 51.5fps with lock and 52fps with unlock.
(1024x768 4x AA high quality VSYNC) timedemo demo1

CPU bottleneck? P4 3ghz HT

What do you guys think?
August 23, 2006 5:29:30 AM

Q from a noob...
I also have a 6800GS, runs stable @ ~ 430/1100Mhz
How do i attempt to 'unlock pipes'?
s/ware needed etc...?
Thanks
:oops: 

PS: I also thought finding artifacts was good :p  :p  :p 
August 23, 2006 5:39:46 AM

Start with RivaTuner to unlock the pipes.

You just have to insure your 6800 is NV40 based.

You can find countless unlocking guides, just use the power of google.
August 23, 2006 6:32:35 AM

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Also when I unlock the pipes I get no artifacts in gaming and the usual in ATI Tools (slight artifacts which I ignore).

However I notice almost no performance increase!
BFG 6800GS 370mhz core 1.05ghz memory.

I plan to overclock sometime.

Doom 3 I get 51.5fps with lock and 52fps with unlock.
(1024x768 4x AA high quality VSYNC) timedemo demo1

CPU bottleneck? P4 3ghz HT

What do you guys think?


Could def. use more cpu juice. Why 1024x768??? LCD?
Try disable vsync. Some games dont show adverse effects. I get 5-20% more fps in Oblivion with minimum visual disturbance.

PS Raven. Its easier to ask experts than googoyle :twisted:
August 23, 2006 8:21:41 AM

lol.

Well...I like twist ties, I'll say that much. But i actually had to bend the heatpipes a bit so its at a slight angle towards the bottom of the case.

I have a Gigabyte Aurora coming in the next week, I'll post pics of it then when I actually have the room. Plus, I think I might have to buy a new camera :cry:  ........I'll get em though.
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