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What is it? I'm running NES CE and it has problems playing a games
music and sound. The audio is very clunky. Perhaps the commercial
emulator will fix this or perhaps it will not. I wont know until I get
back to a high speed connection. Perhaps the problem lies with the
Jornada 720 sound chip?
I do know for a fact that there are games that have problems with
certain sound card chips. On my Mac and PC I use MAME and the game
Shinobi's audio is clunky on the Mac, while on my much slower PC the
game Shinobi's audio is so much cleaner (sounds just like the arcade).
I asked around and was told that the PC uses a chip similiar to the one
being emulated than the Mac and a reason for the better audio. I am
using the DOS version of Mame, and the latest version of OS 9.x for the
Mac.
Do you think my Jornada is having the same problems, and no matter what
the music will always be clunky?
Thanks,
John
PS- PPC users many of your machines will use a sound card chip
similiar to the Jornada 720's. I suppose you also will have the
problem that I am wiht your PPC's, so you may know of a workaround.
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On 4 Jan 2005 20:22:27 -0800,
johnw_94020@yahoo.com (johnw_94020@yahoo.com) wrote:
> What is it? I'm running NES CE and it has problems playing a games
> music and sound. The audio is very clunky. Perhaps the commercial
> emulator will fix this or perhaps it will not. I wont know until I get
> back to a high speed connection. Perhaps the problem lies with the
> Jornada 720 sound chip?
[this post may be a duplicate]
No. The problem is that the empty space between your ears has rotten
acoustic qualities. I surprised you haven't realized this earlier.
Beverly
--
Many a smale maketh a grate -- Geoffrey Chaucer
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johnw_94020@yahoo.com wrote:
> What is it? I'm running NES CE and it has problems playing a games
> music and sound. The audio is very clunky. Perhaps the commercial
> emulator will fix this or perhaps it will not. I wont know until I get
> back to a high speed connection. Perhaps the problem lies with the
> Jornada 720 sound chip?
John,
The problem will be on the relative lack of computing power. The
NES has a sound chip in its hardware as a dedicated sound processor,
and the emulator has to attempt to fully emulate this. This means that
all features of the NES sound chip (wavetable synthesis and goodness
only knows what) must be performed by the CE Emulator and "rendered"
to a raw audio data structure that can be fed to the chip.
All the hard work that the NES chip would perform has to be emulated
by software. This is a seriously non-trivial task which takes a fair
whack of computing power, and hence the sound will be choppy unless
you have a fairly fast processor. The new pocketPCs will not struggle,
but older stuff with relatively slow processors will.
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Thanks Nick.
So this means that even if I spend $20 on that commercial NES emulator
for the HPC I will have the same problems? The gamespeed seems decent,
but the sound no. About PocketPC's Nick how would one play games
without a keyboard? I hear some PPC emulators have a onscreen NES
control pad, but I can imagine it would be difficult to tap everything,
especially playing a game like punch out. On the HPC with the keyboard
it makes it much easier to play.
So this might also explain why some games on my Mac have choppy audio,
but play like the arcade on my PC. And bye the way my PC is only a
PII, and my Mac a G3 (unless of coarse the emulator bypasses my
processor upgrade card and speaks directly to the internal CPU). Then
that would explain the choppy audio. My Mac G3 chip is not internal
but on a L2 card, enabled by an extension. Perhaps some software can
bypass it, and speak directly to the old 603e chip explaining the
choppy audio.
Thanks,
John
Nick L wrote:
> johnw_94020@yahoo.com wrote:
> > What is it? I'm running NES CE and it has problems playing a games
> > music and sound. The audio is very clunky. Perhaps the commercial
> > emulator will fix this or perhaps it will not. I wont know until I
get
> > back to a high speed connection. Perhaps the problem lies with
the
> > Jornada 720 sound chip?
>
> John,
>
> The problem will be on the relative lack of computing power. The
> NES has a sound chip in its hardware as a dedicated sound processor,
> and the emulator has to attempt to fully emulate this. This means
that
> all features of the NES sound chip (wavetable synthesis and goodness
> only knows what) must be performed by the CE Emulator and "rendered"
> to a raw audio data structure that can be fed to the chip.
>
> All the hard work that the NES chip would perform has to be emulated
> by software. This is a seriously non-trivial task which takes a fair
> whack of computing power, and hence the sound will be choppy unless
> you have a fairly fast processor. The new pocketPCs will not
struggle,
> but older stuff with relatively slow processors will.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick.
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