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August 24, 2006 9:25:41 AM

Hi all

I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions as to why i am getting poor performance with my new x1900xt 512 mb

please see the below screenshots in hitman blood money

On the initial welcome screen , not really much happening 20fps !



Here are all the settings i have set in the options menu .



An ingame screenshot again 20Fps the max i get is about 30fps .



i got 7667 points in 3dmark 2005 .

My Spec

Videocard: ATI X1900XT 512MB
Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ 130nm, Newcastle
Mainboard: GigaByte Nforce4 K8NE Socket 754
Memory: DDR 400 1500Mb ( 1 x 1gb 2 x 256mb )
Soundcard: Integrated Sound
PSU: Enermax 650W

I have made sure that the driver for the card is set to application preference for AA and AF .

I am running all the latest drivers for everything .

Any help would be appreciated , as its driving me nuts ..

Cheers
August 24, 2006 10:27:54 AM

Okay, first step would be to disable VSync, you should see an immediate increase in your framerate (although you are likely to now suffer from tearing).
Short of that, I would guess that it's your CPU that's holding you back. I'm not familiar with the Skt748 Athlons, but if they follow the same naming as the Skt939s (I'm guessing they do), that means you're running at 2.0GHz, in which case your CPU shouldn't be a problem, as I'm running a 3000+ (1.8GHz) and am generally getting in-game framerates hovering between 40-50 with a 7800GTX.
Your 3dMark05 score does seem a little bit low for a X1900XT though... I can't really offer any other help, sorry. :( 
August 24, 2006 10:36:05 AM

Yep i tried disabling vsync and it made very little difference . It is a 2.2ghz athlon , so i think it should be able to handle what is really a gpu intensive game ?

I dont know , thats why its driving me nuts , i just bought the card ( upgraded from a geforce 6800 ) and expected to see a big leap in performance , and instead see around the same performance ...
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August 24, 2006 10:47:49 AM

Fear is a really intensive game...

You can dowload Fear Combat for free now, wich is the same. But only on line
August 24, 2006 10:56:45 AM

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Fear is a really intensive game...

You can dowload Fear Combat for free now, wich is the same. But only on line


I have the original FEAR , havent tried it though with this new card .
August 24, 2006 11:18:07 AM

try taking out the 2x 256 ram and just leaving the 1gb in there, is it in dual channel performance mode on your bios etc? coudl be something to do with bios holding you back? try defraggin your hd, running a window xp cleaning programme like cc clener and running disk keeper 10
August 24, 2006 12:16:02 PM

is there any tool that will allow me to see where the bottleneck is ?

I will try removing the 256mb dimms when i get home .
August 24, 2006 12:20:43 PM

um, Socket 754 doesn't support Dual Channel. I know! LOL My setup is similar to his, except, I'm still using an AGP GeForce 6800. My new computer (read signature) is going to be using an ATI X1900XT though. When I have it up and running, I'll post my 3DMark score for the author of the thread.
August 24, 2006 1:51:23 PM

as others have suggested you need to run other games. This will tell you if it is a game-specific thing or a system thing. Don't go swapping out components until you determine this as it will be useless if it is game-specific.

If runs fine on FEAR and a few other games (ut2004 is a solid benchmark game, also run 3dmark 05 and 06 and post the results) then it is a problem w/ the hitman game. In this case try disabling catalyst AI in the drivers as some games do not like the optimizations. You seem to have the other settings solid, so I would also try reinstalling the game. Beyond that you should try the game dev's support forums to find if there is a patch or fix for the issue.

If it does not run well on other games, then it could be you should reinstall the driver. Make sure all your other drivers are updated as well. (I know you said you have them, but just make sure... I myself forget now and again; windows, mobo, sound etc.) Only after exhausting all those options should you start removing ram. IMO though w/ that socket 754 you should not notice any diff from 1.5 to 1 gig of ram. (all still single channel as euroman pointed out)

I personally suspect a software issue and not a hardware one. Make sure to post the 3dmark results as many of us have not played hitman, but the 3dmark score will be more telling (to me at least ;)  ) of what your system is doing. Good luck man.
August 24, 2006 2:01:16 PM

Quote:
um, Socket 754 doesn't support Dual Channel. I know! LOL My setup is similar to his, except, I'm still using an AGP GeForce 6800. My new computer (read signature) is going to be using an ATI X1900XT though. When I have it up and running, I'll post my 3DMark score for the author of the thread.


This is an incorrect statement. Maybe your socket 754 motherboard does not support dual channel DDR, but mine does...

http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=14&l3=66&model=772&modelmenu=1
August 24, 2006 2:09:43 PM

afaik socket 754 procs are all single channel, regardless of what the mobo "supports". Only w/ 939/940 (and newer) did amd have the dual channel controller in the proc that I know of.

look here on wikipedia.

Quote:
Socket 754 is a budget-minded socket, for use with AMD Athlon 64 or Sempron processors. It differs from Socket 939 in several areas:

* support for a single channel memory controller (64-bits wide) with maximum of 3 DIMMs (no dual channel support)
* lower HyperTransport speed (800 MHz Bi-Directional, 16 bit data path, up and downstream)
* lower effective data bandwidth (9.6 GB/s)
* lower motherboard manufacturing costs


oh, and reading the product page on your mobo, while it says dual channel on the top list, in the details it mentions nothing about it. Things that make you go hmmmm... ;) 
August 24, 2006 2:36:03 PM

Ditto, eliminate the easier possibilities first. If no success there, then attempt cusis suggestions.

I am disappointed, though, to see the x1900xt 512mb not doing any better than that. That card is my number one choice as soon as I have the budget for a new build. Are the games just developing faster than the graphics cards?
August 24, 2006 2:40:05 PM

he has 3 slots for memory and has used all three of them right? i heard that if you fill the 3 slots you half the speed of the memory, at least i no this is true with old sdram.

am i right or was i just reading some bullsh*t?
August 24, 2006 2:53:15 PM

Quote:
Ditto, eliminate the easier possibilities first. If no success there, then attempt cusis suggestions.

I am disappointed, though, to see the x1900xt 512mb not doing any better than that. That card is my number one choice as soon as I have the budget for a new build. Are the games just developing faster than the graphics cards?


other way around. Cards are WAY ahead of game devs. It took years for devs to utilize many features in a 9700pro I had. Got it a bit after it came out and even a year ago games were finally taxing it hard.

My current 1900xt just flies through everything. Chews up every game I throw at it. That is why I am convinced there is an issue w/ that particular game... Hitman is a console port, and many of them suffer from performance issues on PC. (GTA:SA really stuttered on my old 9700pro even though it is far and above any specs for the ps2... Looked good, just that the code tends to do alot of useless work when ported badly)
August 24, 2006 2:58:12 PM

Quote:
he has 3 slots for memory and has used all three of them right? i heard that if you fill the 3 slots you half the speed of the memory, at least i no this is true with old sdram.

am i right or was i just reading some bullsh*t?


um, my ASUS K8N-E Deluxe has 3 memory slots.
SLOT 1: Corsair XMS 1024 DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
SLOT 2: Corsair XMS 512 DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6
SLOT 3: Corsair XMS 512 DDR400 @ 2-3-3-6

Sandra reports it running at the full 400 MHz as well as nVidia nTune software

I read what you were saying somewhere, but mine seems to run just fine! :D 
August 24, 2006 3:10:06 PM

Quote:
Hi all

I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions as to why i am getting poor performance with my new x1900xt 512 mb

please see the below screenshots in hitman blood money

On the initial welcome screen , not really much happening 20fps !



Here are all the settings i have set in the options menu .



An ingame screenshot again 20Fps the max i get is about 30fps .



i got 7667 points in 3dmark 2005 .

My Spec

Videocard: ATI X1900XT 512MB
Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ 130nm, Newcastle
Mainboard: GigaByte Nforce4 K8NE Socket 754
Memory: DDR 400 1500Mb ( 1 x 1gb 2 x 256mb )
Soundcard: Integrated Sound
PSU: Enermax 650W

I have made sure that the driver for the card is set to application preference for AA and AF .

I am running all the latest drivers for everything .

Any help would be appreciated , as its driving me nuts ..

Cheers


the way i see it:

first my sistem (intel630ht3gh2ML2/x850xt/1024dualddr2) runs like a beast in hitman 2... i guess i get a minimum 30 fps ..and a max 50 60 fps.....in 1280x1024 4xAA, 4xAF, all settings to the max.....

your x1900xt is the most powerfull component you have ...if there is anything that holds you is the rest of the sistem......the old 754 processor, no dual channel support,,,etc...
August 24, 2006 3:16:11 PM

ohh..and one more thing my ..friend ..i think that your sistem will run faster with two 512 memory modules ..why..simply as that...is because of your mobo which is limited :

when you use one or two sticks ..you`ll have 400Mhz per same 750Mbps
if you use 3 slots you will have same 333Mhz or even less 266Mhz modules at same 500Mbps

you mobo will not support dual channel but imagine....the bandwith will increase considerably...from few hundreds Mhz to same 2Gbps or even higher and also higher Clocks....

good luck
August 24, 2006 3:38:52 PM

hi guys , i headed off home at lunch time and tried a few of your suggestions

if you read my original post i had posted that i got 7667 points in 3dmark05 , so i went home took out the two 256mb dimms , double checked the driver ( which had somehow turned AA and AF back on ) and defragged the disks

low and behold i now get a score of 8900 . thats a big jump . I havent got a chance to try hitman yet , as by the time i had done all that i had to go back to work !!

Ill take another look tonight and post here . thanks for all the help guys really appreciate it ..
August 24, 2006 3:45:34 PM

Quote:
the way i see it:

first my sistem (intel630ht3gh2ML2/x850xt/1024dualddr2) runs like a beast in hitman 2... i guess i get a minimum 30 fps ..and a max 50 60 fps.....in 1280x1024 4xAA, 4xAF, all settings to the max.....

your x1900xt is the most powerfull component you have ...if there is anything that holds you is the rest of the sistem......the old 754 processor, no dual channel support,,,etc...
The screenshots he showed are of Hitman Blood Money, not Hitman 2; big difference.
August 24, 2006 3:49:30 PM

I would bet $ that if you put the sticks of ram back in it will still be fine. There is nothing wrong w/ the ram setup on that system. AA and AF being forced on in the driver will have a huge effect on any game, some more than others. Like I said, I am pretty sure it is all a software thing and not your hardware. That 8900 is a tad low for the card, but w/ the cpu and single channel ram (regardless of how much or configuration) that could be where it will stay.

Basically you were running AA and AF on everything on the system if you had it on in the drivers. That will affect any app you run, including 3dmark. Good to know you found it. (looks like it anyway. ;)  )

rock on.
August 24, 2006 3:59:37 PM

Quote:
the way i see it:

first my sistem (intel630ht3gh2ML2/x850xt/1024dualddr2) runs like a beast in hitman 2... i guess i get a minimum 30 fps ..and a max 50 60 fps.....in 1280x1024 4xAA, 4xAF, all settings to the max.....

your x1900xt is the most powerfull component you have ...if there is anything that holds you is the rest of the sistem......the old 754 processor, no dual channel support,,,etc...
The screenshots he showed are of Hitman Blood Money, not Hitman 2; big difference.

yes ..man ..sorry ...did i say hitman 2 ..ahh yes ..sorry..of course it`s hitman blood and money...
August 24, 2006 4:22:58 PM

Hi banjax,
I agree with the guys - your rig is just a little 'unbalanced'.
You have the very good vidcard but with only S754 mobo and XP3200+ @ 2000MHz.
I agree you will get best performance using just the single 1GB stick of memory, and tight latency timings.
I also recommend you do not run CCC all the time when your rig is started - ATI provides the 'Restart Runtime' if you ever wish to manually start it (to make adjustments, then reboot). I keep mine off, it is rarely needed!
Anyway, approaching ~9000 in 3DMark '05 is really a very good score :^)
My brand new rig has just produced the following:
3DMark 06 - 5649
3DMark 05 - 10985
3DMark 03 - 18388
You must soon step up your CPU/mobo (it is the platform that has produced the huge overall system speed improvements since ~2004). I have been building Back To School rigs using Athlon64 3800+ (2.4GHz, AM2) single-core - it's a joke, I can get them for ~$100 bucks and they are really very good.
But tune up the rig you have, optimize it to the max, and take your 9000 3DMarks & be happy. My old rig (XP3200+ Barton and X1600Pro) scored only 6691 in 3DMark '03!
You've got that well beat, heheh...
Regards
August 24, 2006 4:35:31 PM

Quote:
Hi banjax,
I agree with the guys - your rig is just a little 'unbalanced'.
You have the very good vidcard but with only S754 mobo and XP3200+ @ 2000MHz.
I agree you will get best performance using just the single 1GB stick of memory, and tight latency timings.
I also recommend you do not run CCC all the time when your rig is started - ATI provides the 'Restart Runtime' if you ever wish to manually start it (to make adjustments, then reboot). I keep mine off, it is rarely needed!
Anyway, approaching ~9000 in 3DMark '05 is really a very good score :^)
My brand new rig has just produced the following:
3DMark 06 - 5649
3DMark 05 - 10985
3DMark 03 - 18388
You must soon step up your CPU/mobo (it is the platform that has produced the huge overall system speed improvements since ~2004). I have been building Back To School rigs using Athlon64 3800+ (2.4GHz, AM2) single-core - it's a joke, I can get them for ~$100 bucks and they are really very good.
But tune up the rig you have, optimize it to the max, and take your 9000 3DMarks & be happy. My old rig (XP3200+ Barton and X1600Pro) scored only 6691 in 3DMark '03!
You've got that well beat, heheh...
Regards


not an XP proc, not 2GHz... the OP already said it was 2.2GHz. b/c the 754 chips ran only single channel ram, they had a higher speed to offset the lower ram performance. (and still keep the same "rating" of 3200 or whatever) His is still a fine system, and getting 1000 more bungholio marks is not worth a whole system upgrade IMO if his games still run fine. (which now that he has AA and AF back to defaults should be the case)
August 24, 2006 5:02:33 PM

Surprised no one has suggested you install your video card in a different system and see if it performs like it should. Like many have suggested, it's likely your system's other components are responsible for the poor performance of an otherwise overwhelming video processor.
August 24, 2006 5:56:34 PM

Yes, whatever (I can't get S754 Athlons anymore, so didn't have the exact info) but it is what it is...
Quote:
His is still a fine system, and getting 1000 more bungholio marks is not worth a whole system upgrade IMO if his games still run fine.

I agree 100%. His performance is pretty good :^)
L8R
August 24, 2006 6:09:59 PM

I agree with what most people here have said. You've upgraded a bit unevenly. You've dumped a rollys royce engine into a honda transmission.
August 24, 2006 6:37:48 PM

Quote:
I agree with what most people here have said. You've upgraded a bit unevenly. You've dumped a rollys royce engine into a honda transmission.


:roll: not anywhere close to a good analogy. The two car makers are not even in the same world. What you said makes no sense in this context. A socket 939/am2 is hardly the equivalent of a Rolls, nor is the 754 a Honda. One simple example: Even were it possible to mate up the Rolls engine w/ a Honda transmission (any engine-tranny combo or were you thinking of one in particular? there are many models) which it is not, if the transmission is not built to handle the engine it would simply destroy it. His computer is not broken. If you meant that a socket upgrade would make it a "luxury model" instead of the "budget model" then you are also wrong as a luxury car != performance car. You can make a pretty sweet 'rod out of a Honda that would toast any Rolls.

I could go on about how bad an analogy this is, but you get the idea. If you want to talk like you know about computers and/or cars you had better actually know about them.

His system is fine. If you upgrade a system for games, you do it to play said games and not to get the bungholio trophy. His will do exactly that.
August 24, 2006 7:33:45 PM

my thoughts exactly :lol: 
August 24, 2006 7:41:55 PM

Slightly off the topic - someone here mentioned FEAR Combat being free and online for multiplayer. Have you guys tried it out? What's the catch. Why would they provide a free online game at full version? Thanks. Dont want to get too much off the topic.
August 24, 2006 7:53:58 PM

WolfensteinET was free, full and very fun.

FEAR is a great game, and that they released it free could be for many reasons. Publisher/Developer dispute (trying to spite each other), could be to get ppl hooked that have not bought it so that they will want to play the single player (more $ that way), or it simply could be that they want to make the gamers happy and be able to play w/ those that did not have the game. (like at a LAN)

I would hope it is for the last reason, but regardless... it is free w/ no strings. Free is good. Makes me like Monolith stuff even more :D 
August 24, 2006 7:58:33 PM

Great thanks sojrner. I thought there may be an advertising revenue stream invovled (maybe in the game itself). To be determined. Either way, THATS GREAT! Will get it tonight!
August 24, 2006 8:10:05 PM

sojrner, I sent you a PM. Thanks.
August 25, 2006 1:19:46 PM

Quote:
Slightly off the topic - someone here mentioned FEAR Combat being free and online for multiplayer. Have you guys tried it out? What's the catch. Why would they provide a free online game at full version? Thanks. Dont want to get too much off the topic.


It's great! The single player... not bad. The multiplayer, awesome! No catch! Just have a valid e-mail address and viola! If you have an XBOX 360, wait for it to come out on that unless you have a newer system. I have yet to try it on my new rig due to graphics card not in yet, but I'll let you know this, my old rig:

AMD 64 3200 @ 2.2GHz w/Zalman CNPS7000B
ASUS K8N-E Deluxe
2 GB Corsair XMS 400 @ 2-3-3-6 @ 2.7V
PNY GeForce 6800 (stock) w/ NV5 Silencer
WD 250GB
WD 200GB
Seagate 80GB
Sony CD-RW
NEC DVD-RW DL
NEC Floppy Drive
Thermaltake Shark Case

plays it somewhat fine. Graphics is on medium and in intense gun battles, my fps drop to 20... not too bad. Even without gun fights, I get b/w 20 to 60 fps. Oh yea, it's being played at 1024x768 w/ V-Sync (can't stand having the little line across the screen when playing... some of you will know what I'm referring to, others... sorry to say, GeForce 6800 128DDR AGP has met it's end life :(  ) and soft shadows is enabled (this will kill fps, but oh well. i don't care... others will )Anyways, for free, you can't beat that! It's very addictive!

Make note: computer gaming and girlfriends do not go together! Choose one or the other. That or find a girl that loves games or learn to sacrifice game time for women :p 
August 28, 2006 2:31:39 PM

Quote:
afaik socket 754 procs are all single channel, regardless of what the mobo "supports". Only w/ 939/940 (and newer) did amd have the dual channel controller in the proc that I know of.

look here on wikipedia.

Socket 754 is a budget-minded socket, for use with AMD Athlon 64 or Sempron processors. It differs from Socket 939 in several areas:

* support for a single channel memory controller (64-bits wide) with maximum of 3 DIMMs (no dual channel support)
* lower HyperTransport speed (800 MHz Bi-Directional, 16 bit data path, up and downstream)
* lower effective data bandwidth (9.6 GB/s)
* lower motherboard manufacturing costs


oh, and reading the product page on your mobo, while it says dual channel on the top list, in the details it mentions nothing about it. Things that make you go hmmmm... ;) 

I never have faith a source like Wikepedia and therefore I was prepared to go home and get my manual for this motherboard so that I could find out for sure who is right. However, I did some research on the web and it appears that even though Asus claims that this mobo supports dual channel memory, the socket 754 processors are in fact not capable of this technology. I have always loved Asus mobos, but it does piss me off that Asus would promote their products with false advertisement and probably fitting that I had ordered a Gigabyte mobo for my E6600 the day before I originally replied to this post and found out about this load of crap, lol.

Anyway, just wanted to give credit where it is due and let everyone know that Sojrner was right.
August 28, 2006 2:43:45 PM

you know, you will go far in life. Not many times on this forum that graciousness comes through. While I am not wanting to be right, and really do not care if others know who is right so much as knowing what is right. Still, I appreciate that post.

Incidentally, I also like Asus boards and wonder if there is some actual truth in what they say on their product spec list. "supports dual channel ram" (while misleading to us) could actually be true and meant to remove confusion to upgrader n00bs that wonder if ram that is sold as "dual channel" will work.

follow it this way: If ram is sold as "dual channel" ddr (many sticks are) and the mobo says that "dual channel" is supported then logic says they work together. Of course if the socket does not use that dual channel it can still "support" it. ;) 

not really a lie, and probably simplifies things for hardware neophytes. To those of us that acutally know what "dual channel" means it can lead to agrivation. :evil: 
August 29, 2006 4:13:00 PM

I havent run serious diagnostics on my PC yet, and I will over the weekend, but I think that my MSI x1900xt isnt running as well as it should in certain games. When the beginnning videos of the games start (the into), it doesnt seem to be running 100% smoothly. If I look closely, it looks like the frames a skipping a little bit. Say for instand AOE3. The movie jumps if you look very closely.

Is this normal? It seems like the x1900xt should be great for a game like that. Game play is fine. Just the movies!

Thanks.
August 29, 2006 4:13:55 PM

I havent run serious diagnostics on my PC yet, and I will over the weekend, but I think that my MSI x1900xt isnt running as well as it should in certain games. When the beginnning videos of the games start (the into), it doesnt seem to be running 100% smoothly. If I look closely, it looks like the frames a skipping a little bit. Say for instand AOE3. The movie jumps if you look very closely.

Is this normal? It seems like the x1900xt should be great for a game like that. Game play is fine. Just the movies!

Thanks.
August 29, 2006 4:44:44 PM

agreed. videos are not a big deal.

@ th OP: I have not played aoe3 other then the demo but there are so many different codecs that could have been used for that video. Most of them do not even run on the gpu but rather the cpu so it is not really a 1900 thing at all. That is more of a system issue, but not really worth worrying about IMO, just as stranger said.
August 29, 2006 5:14:34 PM

Hey thanks for your thoughts. Interesting points. I installed Nero that came with the package, and it has a video player too. I noticed that the quality in the DVDs I watched was REALLY poor. I uninstalled it, and reinstalled Windows Player 10, and it works great now.

Using the Cinema Now package too, it doesnt look that great. Windows 10 appears to be the best. Any thoughts on this.

I dont really know much about the video side of things. I just want to get my vids to run at TOP quality without any jumping/lagging/skipping. Let me know what I can do/what I should do/what I am doing wrong.

I'm sure I can get the vids and DVDs to run much better. I have a nation 1240X1028 19 inch screen (VX922) with this MSI 1900xt combo. It should be amazing, and I dont think its as great as I thought it would be. My little dell laptop with 64MB v-card has crisper DVD images.

Thanks.
August 29, 2006 5:37:32 PM

hmm... If I remember correctly powerDVD is one of the few players that actually use the gpu... dunno though. I do not really watch much on my comp, and when I do I use the ati player. I have a 9700pro AIW that still gets me a license for the ati mmc so I have that installed. I have used nero though and the player just looks like a$$ compared to anything else I have seen. mediaplayer (as you said) is better.

try powerDVD though, should work well for you.
August 29, 2006 6:57:41 PM

I read that the new Hitman game has some serious performance issues, so it may not be your system. You may just need to wait for a patch.
August 29, 2006 7:49:22 PM

It's really hard to describe what I'm seeing, but my eye is unusually prone to seeing things like this as I am sensitive to video quality. Say for instance in CivCity - Rome, when they pan quickly across the city in the into preview, the video seems to skip a beat as it pans, appearing to be jumping from frame to frame, and my eye can actually see that little jump. When the movements are slower, you cannot notice it that much. It does make a difference and seeing though I spent a good buck on the system, I just want to get it right. If it's a driver issue and I can just fix it, then I should do so immediately right?!

The other thing is watching DVDs. The image just doesnt look 100% right. Maybe the contrast, maybe the settings, I dunno! On my laptop, it looks great. Now I'm not sure if it's because it's a 15 inch screen or what.

If this is what it is then so be it, but I was hoping my video quality would be better. Hopefully its a driver issue or a game settings issue that I can hopefully fix. The DVD setup is a mystery.

If I record a .avi and post it, will you be able to see what I'm talking about, or will your own systems handle the vids differently?
August 29, 2006 8:29:46 PM

Like I said earlier, it could be the software you are using to play the movie. Nero sucks in that regard and powerDVD does well and the ati file player is great. mediaplayer is ok too.

could be you are running too many things in the background. If it is stuttering the next thing beyond better software is lack of resources. (ram, cpu power etc) Try shutting everything down and running it and see if the stuttering stops. The quality issue is more software related than resources probably.
September 7, 2006 1:56:56 PM

Hi Guys,

I ran PCMark and 3DMark on my PC last night. I was using the free version. As I am not using the pay service (just not worth it for one run at $40 if you dont use it professionally), I cannot check to see how my system stacks up against others. I hit Google and the forumz, and got some data points. If those points prove true, then I think I am going to be very disappointed with the new system. Could you please take a look at my scores and let me know what you think? Please post yours too so others coming to this page can learn too. THANKS!

PCMark = 6493
3DMark = 4936

The list of detailed components are on this page:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam...

-Antec Performance One P180B Mid-Tower
-Antec NeoPower NeoHE 550 550W
-Asus P5W DH Deluxe
-Conroe E6600
-OCZ Platinum Revision 2, 2GB, DDR2 800
-MSI RX1900XT-VT2D512E Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3
-Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB
-Lite-On SHM-165H6S Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer
-ViewSonic VX922 19" LCD Monitor
-Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite Mac/Win PS2/USB
September 7, 2006 2:53:10 PM

k man, not really sure what you are doing now. Hijacking a thread is one thing as long as the OP was done and your point is on track, which you were fine. But now you have jumped from one thing to the next and I am just not understanding what is going on here... maybe I'm slow, who knows ;) 

First you were wondering about FEAR combat, and then about video playback quality. Now you are talking about 3dmark scores (I assume it is 3dmark '06?) What are you after here? You have yet to say if any of the suggestions for the video playback have worked...

Not wanting to come off as a jerk here, just wondering what is going on... like to know if your video playback issues are better, worse or the same. I was just re-reading about your problem and one thing I never thought about is that this:
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when they pan quickly across the city in the into preview, the video seems to skip a beat as it pans, appearing to be jumping from frame to frame, and my eye can actually see that little jump. When the movements are slower, you cannot notice it that much.

sounds alot like frame tearing, which can be fixed by turning on vsynch (vertical synchronization) in the driver settings. The wierdness is that if it truly is a pre-rendered "video" and not a movie rendered in real-time in the game engine then the vsynch should not affect it. Play w/ that setting though and see.

Don't remember what my 'mark scores have been, but I think my 3dmark '06 was around 5500. (oc'd video card and cpu at that time) Again, not sure and will check on it in a few days to see. Remember that 3dMark is very dependent on the video card, and only '06 even used a score from teh cpu and yet it is a small portion of that score.
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