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August 26, 2006 9:00:06 AM

Ive looked for info on this but cant find any satisfying info.

Whats the difference between 128 and 256bit gfx cards.

Obviously the data bandwidth is x2? but what does this REALLY mean in the real world.

I dont really need a full tech explination, but im sure other ppl are wondering abt this too.

Thanks! :D 
Mez

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August 26, 2006 11:43:44 AM

It makes such a difference that if you are a serious gamer you would never settle for a 128-bit gfx card.

This difference seperates the men from the boys as you'll see 256-bit graphics cards own any 128-bit. (if you compare the same generation; this edited for prozac26 who is a troll)
August 26, 2006 12:38:56 PM

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This difference seperates the men from the boys as you'll see 256-bit graphics cards own any 128-bit.

So you're saying a X850XT owns a 7600GT? Or better yet, you say a 9800XT owns a 7600GT? Not in all cases are 256bit card owning 128bit cards.
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August 26, 2006 12:53:38 PM

If you compare the same card, but one is 256-bit and one is 128-bit, then it matters alot. We would refer to the 128-bit version as crippled and it's performance would be alot worse. But this doesn't mean that any 256-bit card would beat all 128-bit cards. Far from it as there is alot more to it. Like prozac said, the 7600GT can crush the old 9800 pro or XT, and do very well against it's current 256-bit competition. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/25/sub_200_pci_expr...

On the other hand, a 128-bit card is always going to be considered midrange or lower, not high end.
August 26, 2006 1:17:06 PM

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If you compare the same card, but one is 256-bit and one is 128-bit, then it matters alot. We would refer to the 128-bit version as crippled and it's performance would be alot worse. But this doesn't mean that any 256-bit card would beat all 128-bit cards. Far from it as there is alot more to it. Like prozac said, the 7600GT can crush the old 9800 pro or XT, and do very well against it's current 256-bit competition. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/25/sub_200_pci_expr...

On the other hand, a 128-bit card is always going to be considered midrange or lower, not high end.


And soon enough 256 bit will be considered midrange or lower, while 512bit is the new standard.

I reckon within the next year.
August 26, 2006 1:38:51 PM

If you're going to compare different generations to each other then you're just being an ass.

You know what I meant and you skewed it.

I have been reading various posts by you prozac, and I have to say you're an arrogant troll on this forum who adds nothing to any topics and insults people non-stop.

I put in a request that you be banned. I know they won't do it but at least they will be watching your garbage closer. :twisted:
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August 26, 2006 1:40:54 PM

I actually had that in there at the end but deleted before submitting. :D  I'm hoping 512-bit becomes the norm starting with R600 and beyond. I just decided to stick to current cards with that post.
August 26, 2006 2:13:20 PM

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I put in a request that you be banned. I know they won't do it but at least they will be watching your garbage closer. :twisted:


Prozac has 7,000-odd posts; if he was a troll who posted crap, we'd know it by now.
August 26, 2006 2:14:58 PM

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I actually had that in there at the end but deleted before submitting. :D  I'm hoping 512-bit becomes the norm starting with R600 and beyond. I just decided to stick to current cards with that post.


Why haven't they done 512-bit memory yet? 256-bit has been the high-end standard since (I think) the 9700Pro.
August 26, 2006 3:09:40 PM

Prozac is right, you made a blanket statement that 256bit cards own 128bit cards.

You are now putting qualifiers on it like 'only if they are the same generation'. This was not mentioned in your first post.

Assuming that the reader will imagine up the qualifiers assumes they know enough about the Gfx market that they wouldnt be asking the question in the first place. After all, not in every case does new generation > old generation, (GeForce 3Ti500 > GeForce 4 MX, GeForce 6800U > 7300, etc), not in every case does 256bit > 128bit (Geforce 6600GT > Geforce 5950U) and so on and so forth.

But compating the 7600GT to the 7900GT at the same clock is not a fair comparison of the memory bus, as the 7900GT also has double the number of pipelines.

512bit RAM hasnt been done because of the complex multilayerd PCB traces that would be required, just as Quad Channel RAM hasnt been done.

Maybe a 'Fully Buffered' system similar to FB-DIMMs would allow for more memory bandwidth at the cost of latency?
August 26, 2006 4:02:22 PM

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If you're going to compare different generations to each other then you're just being an ass.

You made a totally wrong statement, so I made a totally correct statement. How is that being an ass?

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I have been reading various posts by you prozac, and I have to say you're an arrogant troll on this forum who adds nothing to any topics and insults people non-stop.

Oh really? Please, provide an example, because I really wanna know...

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You mess around prozac you'll be messing with me.

Dude, I know, he's insulting the whole forum!
August 26, 2006 4:42:01 PM

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If you're going to compare different generations to each other then you're just being an ass.

You made a totally wrong statement, so I made a totally correct statement. How is that being an ass?

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I have been reading various posts by you prozac, and I have to say you're an arrogant troll on this forum who adds nothing to any topics and insults people non-stop.

Oh really? Please, provide an example, because I really wanna know...

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You mess around prozac you'll be messing with me.

Dude, I know, he's insulting the whole forum!

I'd like to meet someone who took prozac's advice and his advice came up wrong. Highly Unlikely.
August 26, 2006 5:08:53 PM

Its no wonder... its cos prozac is Polish :lol:  :lol: 
JK :p 

I just thought i may be missing the big picture here with 128vs256...
As with some things (ram?) there comes a point when more doesnt make a difference (1vs2Gb maybe?)

As i saw 2x 7900GT's, and the 265bit ver was $20 cheaper!!! (different brands)
So im like... WTF :?:
August 27, 2006 10:17:06 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH

You have got to be kidding me. What are you going to do? Use your hax0ring skillz?

Are you going to whine to the admins that you have 25000 posts of useless information compared to my 31??

:( !!!!!! oh know I am fux0r!
August 27, 2006 11:20:29 AM

yep they surely helped me (both of them) :) 

just don't be jealous :wink:
August 27, 2006 11:22:38 AM

I try to be nice and fit in but for some reason I can't.

I am quick to attack only to realize it was for nothing...

I dunno what to do, if someone would just understand....... :( 
August 27, 2006 11:41:42 AM

Dont TRY to be nice, just BE nice.
and when you understand other peoples' n00bness, they'll understand you. Easy 8)
August 27, 2006 12:27:32 PM

Just take it easy and don’t go personal. If you read wusy’s and prozac’s posts you will see that they don’t agree all the time but still no personal stuff being thrown at each other. (a fact certain other posters should note IMHO)
August 27, 2006 12:56:18 PM

It's hard to just "be nice"!

But, to make life easier for people, and to realize that this is a forum mostly to HELP people (which is a good point someone made) then I will TRY to be ... calmer.

SORRY for all the mess I caused, I ruined this post! :evil: 
August 27, 2006 5:30:19 PM

Don’t go too hard on your self. You admitted your mistake and that’s something 90% of the people on these forums don’t have the strength to do. :D 
December 2, 2013 6:20:40 AM

All of this butt hurt and arguing, but nobody REALLY answered the question. I came here actually wondering the same thing (128 bit vs. 256 bit)...so what are the prognosis, fellas?
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