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August 27, 2006 11:01:21 PM

I read the article about the Pentium D 805 2.6ghz processor being overclocked to 4.1ghz per core!! Being amazed and curious I was wondering if anyone has tried to copy the article with success. I'm looking at upgrading my old pc. I do a lot of 3d animation and the thought of dual 4.1ghz cores was quite hard to believe. Would i really see a huge increase in performance instead of buying a normally clocked dual core. I mean..118$ for a dual 4.1ghz is awesome. What about life span?

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September 19, 2006 7:20:49 AM

just go C2D, E6300 is way better and a great overclocker
September 19, 2006 8:20:07 AM

how dose c2d preform so well for only 1.8 gh? or any of the c2d line up for that matter, what did intel do right?
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September 19, 2006 8:42:18 AM

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just go C2D, E6300 is way better and a great overclocker
nuff said
September 19, 2006 2:45:20 PM

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I read the article about the Pentium D 805 2.6ghz processor being overclocked to 4.1ghz per core!! Being amazed and curious I was wondering if anyone has tried to copy the article with success. I'm looking at upgrading my old pc. I do a lot of 3d animation and the thought of dual 4.1ghz cores was quite hard to believe. Would i really see a huge increase in performance instead of buying a normally clocked dual core. I mean..118$ for a dual 4.1ghz is awesome. What about life span?


Get a Core2, even an E6300 and on stock it will outperform the 4.1 GHz 805. 4.1 GHz look mighty but the P4D 805 is the WORST dual core available and even this clock speed can only beat nothing but the lowest AMD dual cores, the X2 3800+ or 4200+ ON STOCK of course.
Add to this an elevated power consumption, heat dissipation, $100+ for the watercooling (you need it to run the 805 @4.1G); it really is the worst dual core buy you can do.
September 19, 2006 3:14:10 PM

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even this clock speed can only beat nothing but the lowest AMD dual cores, the X2 3800+ or 4200+ ON STOCK

what I wrote here means the 4.1 G 805 beats the 3800+ and 4200+ not the inverse, you missunderstood me. Considering the extra $100 for the watercooling and te about 30% of chances to get to 4.1G, even the 3800+ and 4200+ are beter alternatives; OC-ing the 3800+ to 2.6G performs as well as the 805 to 4.1G
September 19, 2006 3:44:13 PM

Watercooling an E6300 won't be necessary as the motherboard is likely to top out long before the CPU hits the thermal wall due to the low multiplier, 7x 400MHz yield only 2.8GHz, that's far from the point where air cooling can no longer cope with the heat.
September 19, 2006 4:36:15 PM

I like how not too many people actually answer your question, and right off the bat they go recommend something else.

4.1ghz is tough on that system, I went for it and I had alot of heat issues. However after playing around with the system for a bit I have it a 3.8 ghz and its runs perfect. Life span? I'd say no more than 2 or 3 years, but in 2 or 3 years I'll get a new rig anyways.
September 19, 2006 5:40:22 PM

Isn't recommending something else also a way of telling them that there are better alternatives? Besides, buying a D 805 to overclock is smart if you plan to do just that... overclock. You'll need to be lucky, not to mention patient. And even at 4.1Ghz the performance is nothing spectacular, and the noise and power are something you should consider. All in all there are far better solutions out there, such as the previously mentioned X2 3800+/4200+ or the C2D E6300/6400.
September 19, 2006 5:44:41 PM

Luck has little to do with it. And besides, he didn't ask for a cheap CPU with good performance, he specifically asked about the 805 D's overclocking capabilites. Recommending another CPU doesn't give him the information he was asking for. And benchmarks\statistics don't lie, the 805 overclocked to 3.8-4.1 ghz is a fast CPU.
September 19, 2006 7:07:53 PM

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I like how not too many people actually answer your question, and right off the bat they go recommend something else.

4.1ghz is tough on that system, I went for it and I had alot of heat issues. However after playing around with the system for a bit I have it a 3.8 ghz and its runs perfect. Life span? I'd say no more than 2 or 3 years, but in 2 or 3 years I'll get a new rig anyways.


Thats simple its to keep people from making a horrible mistake The D805 was a great CPU till the day the e6300 was released. There was no greater D805 fanboy then me even before the toms review but you people need to learn to let it go and look for other values
A d805 now is a terrible choice its too late to jump on that bandwagon I ask myself why would anyone consider the d805? it has to be because people put to much faith in those reviews.When they first come out i guess its fine but how many months has it been? point being now that the d915 and d945 are out they are far better choices. The d915 cost less then the d805 cost when the article was printed, it also runs alot cooler and in most cases overclock better.


I have to agree that the e6300 is a better choice if you are planning an overclocking setup from scratch. but as far as performance a d805 overclocked to 4.1 is a far better performer then a 3800x2, I dont know how many threads,articles have been posted all over the web but its about equal to a 2.6ghz x2, that both will outperform a stock e6300/6400 but thats about it.
September 19, 2006 9:09:39 PM

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I ask myself why would anyone consider the d805?


Well, I could hazard a few guesses.

1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.
2. Maybe someone uses mostly multithreaded applications as their most strenuous CPU-related task, such as Nero Vision Express, DivX, DVDshrink, Photoshop, etc.
3. Maybe someone wants the performance of a 3.8GHz Pentium 4 in those said applications without having to pay the high price of one.
4. Maybe that person is me and undervolted the CPU to 1.125 volts, dropping the TDP to 58 watts (according to extreme PSU calculator), giving the quickness of a 3.8GHz P4 with power consumption of a Northwood.
September 19, 2006 9:17:54 PM

Exactly.
September 19, 2006 10:06:12 PM

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The D805 was a great CPU till the day the e6300 was released

And before AMD cut its dual core prices; for few extra bucks you can also take an X2 performing much better.
September 19, 2006 10:08:59 PM

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Well, I could hazard a few guesses.

1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.
2. Maybe someone uses mostly multithreaded applications as their most strenuous CPU-related task, such as Nero Vision Express, DivX, DVDshrink, Photoshop, etc.
3. Maybe someone wants the performance of a 3.8GHz Pentium 4 in those said applications without having to pay the high price of one.
4. Maybe that person is me and undervolted the CPU to 1.125 volts, dropping the TDP to 58 watts (according to extreme PSU calculator), giving the quickness of a 3.8GHz P4 with power consumption of a Northwood.



nice try:

well the only guess that has an validity is #1 and even that is slow minded point of view because the D805 was all about performance for cost.
as far as 2,3,4 you can do the same thing with all other cpu's
And if you cant afford the $20 plus tax to move up to a d915 I suggest you save your money and pay some bills first or buy some food. I can understand the e6300 since it is little more money but Sorry the d805 is trash now and for temp difference of the d805 90 nm b0 stepping to the d915 65nm c1 stepping +L2 and a 12 or 14 multiplier, also water-cooling not being necessary its just common sense either you have it or you don't


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The D805 was a great CPU till the day the e6300 was released

And before AMD cut its dual core prices; for few extra bucks you can also take an X2 performing much better.

the only issue i have with that is i had a (939) 3800 x2 but could not overclock past 2.6 Ghz and it could not outperform my d805 at that speed . From what i understand AMD is more dependent on date code's and steppings unlike intels that oc verywell regardless. But it you can get an x2 to 2.9-3ghz that would be sweet, I also dont know much about am2 what kind of oc'ers are they?


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1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.


You should consider an extra $100 for watercooling if you want to get 4.1G out of it and it gets $200, just like a stock 4400+ or E6300 and you can OC them to perform better than a 4G 805 just on air cooling.

yep my d805 is on water (corsair)and my d915 is on air (big typhoon) and the both run about the same temps, the d915 being a littler warmer
September 19, 2006 10:14:41 PM

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1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.


You should consider an extra $100 for watercooling if you want to get 4.1G out of it and it gets $200, just like a stock 4400+ or E6300 and you can OC them to perform better than a 4G 805 just on air cooling.
September 19, 2006 10:22:35 PM

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And before AMD cut its dual core prices; for few extra bucks you can also take an X2 performing much better.


Huh? I thought AMD's X2s were super high priced before Core 2... over $100 more than the 805D
September 19, 2006 11:29:34 PM

Hi all, Muggins here just went to town after reading that article.

I have the opportunity to return the 805 d, it's still in it's box, and it was an A0 anyway!

I bought

Asus P5WDG2-WS
2x Corsair 1Gb CM2X 6400 C4 PRO 4-4-4-12
Big fat Zalman cps9500AT
3D Fuzion Gforce 7600GT 256MB (could send this back too?)


I'll spend about 150 pounds if necessary, what's my best CPU option?

I want to do a bit of simple overclocking, not worried about noise. Am I OK to just go and buy a e6300 and carry on, or is there an even better option for around £100 - £150?

Thanks
September 20, 2006 12:17:53 AM

well will that extra 150 pounds get you into a conroe e6300? if it does not the D915 for sure then spend the extra on a better video card.
Me personally since lately i have been mostly playing games and some benching, The one thing i do know is that, In benchmarks the d805/915 keeps up with my stock e6600 I would rather go with the d915 and a better video card then a conroe and worse video card(since thats pretty much the most important part) thats just me
September 20, 2006 12:50:01 AM

Thanks!

Is that card bad? It was nice and cheap at £75 I thought I was getting some bang for my buck.

Ok, so lets say I buy a 915 if it's cheaper, what's the next graphics card up and how much is it going to cost me?
September 20, 2006 1:29:49 AM

LOL! :lol:  Allow me to debunk all the BS you're spewing:

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well the only guess that has an validity is #1 and even that is slow minded point of view because the D805 was all about performance for cost.
as far as 2,3,4 you can do the same thing with all other cpu's

Uh huh. Right. Show me another sub $100 processor that performs as well as the D805 in multithread applications. You're not going to find anything.

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And if you cant afford the $20 plus tax to move up to a d915 I suggest you save your money and pay some bills first or buy some food.

Oh, I can AFFORD a faster processor, it's just that I DON'T WANT to spend more than $100 for a CPU. Besides, the Pentium D 915 costs $128. That's 40% more money to buy one over the $92 D 805. Stop smoking crack. It's not even in the same price range.

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I can understand the e6300 since it is little more money but Sorry the d805 is trash now and for temp difference of the d805 90 nm b0 stepping to the d915 65nm c1 stepping +L2 and a 12 or 14 multiplier, also water-cooling not being necessary its just common sense either you have it or you don't

The Pentium D 805 and the D 915 both have the same TDP... Guess there goes your theory that the 915 runs cooler. If you overclock them, yes, the 9xx processors will scale better with less voltage and therefore run cooler, but at stock levels, the temperature difference between the 805 and the 915 is nill.

As for the watercooling issue, it's not my problem if you lack self control and try to overclock the D 805 to its max instead of sticking with a more mild overclock to around 3.33 GHz, which is do-able at stock voltage, using the stock heatsink and fan, and allows the D 805 to run as fast as a stock Pentium D 930 or X2 3800. Let's see.....X2 3800 performance for $92? Sounds good to me. The value of the D 805 only goes bad when you don't know when to stop overclocking, and start buying aftermarket cooling solutions to push it further.

BTW, the L2 cache difference between Smithfield and Presler barely matters. Look at the performance charts for the D 820 vs D 920.
September 20, 2006 1:40:00 AM

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1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.


You should consider an extra $100 for watercooling if you want to get 4.1G out of it and it gets $200, just like a stock 4400+ or E6300 and you can OC them to perform better than a 4G 805 just on air cooling.

True, but I don't plan you overclock it to 4.1GHz. I understand the OP want's to OC that high, but my post was directed at IcBIUScrn, who said he can't understand why anyone would still want to buy a Pentium D 805. As for the OP's desire to clock an 805 to 4.1 GHz, I agree with everyone else here: It's cheaper and smarter to purchase an E6300.
September 20, 2006 2:36:57 AM

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1. Maybe someone doesn't want to pay more than $100 for a CPU. No matter how much better an AMD X2/Conroe/PD9XX is, they cannot be purchased for less than $100. The price competitors for the D 805 are all single core processors.


You should consider an extra $100 for watercooling if you want to get 4.1G out of it and it gets $200, just like a stock 4400+ or E6300 and you can OC them to perform better than a 4G 805 just on air cooling.

Damn Right! I have a 805 Running right now next to my E6300. It's like an oven in the case there. It runs hotter and slower even tho it's 2.66 vs. the measly 1.86 of my C2D. I didn't oc it cause i'm not into that...yet.

Don't waste ur money! Go E6XXX. This thing is soo freakin' fast.

Found these on the charts:
September 20, 2006 7:02:37 AM

in the world of cpus they are both in the same price range Maybe not your price range but they are both in the low cost dual core. and stock the d915 is a better performer ,overclocked the d915 is a better performer.
again if you cant afford the difference you shouldnt be buying a cpu.
and it was not about self restraint when overclocking it was about performance for the cost because the D805 cost $130 water cooling $150 and you had fx60 performance that was $800,The d915 is even better. Now the d915 is $130 and a $50 HSF you can have better performance
September 20, 2006 6:48:19 PM

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in the world of cpus they are both in the same price range Maybe not your price range but they are both in the low cost dual core. and stock the d915 is a better performer ,overclocked the d915 is a better performer.
The D915 and the D805 may both be low cost dual core solutions, but they are not in the same price range.
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again if you cant afford the difference you shouldnt be buying a cpu.
Again, I can afford the difference. If you can't understand that the D805 and D915 are not in the same price range, you shouldn't be telling other people what cpu to buy.
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and it was not about self restraint when overclocking it was about performance for the cost because the D805 cost $130 water cooling $150 and you had fx60 performance that was $800,

I'm not talking about the past here. Neither were you. You explicitly stated "A d805 now is a terrible choice.... I ask myself why would anyone consider the d805?" NOW. It is still a great cpu to buy....as long as you are satisfied with the performance it has to offer using the stock HSF. It's not a top priced CPU; it doesn't have to perform like one. What it is, is a dual core CPU for a Single core price. That is why people continue to purchase the D805.
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The d915 is even better. Now the d915 is $130 and a $50 HSF you can have better performance
Terrible idea. Why buy a D915 and then spend another $50 on a HSF? You've just spent $178. An E6300 can be purchased for $183! For the extra $5, get an E6300.
September 21, 2006 1:05:55 AM

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The D915 and the D805 may both be low cost dual core solutions, but they are not in the same price range.


915 for $139 http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/13185374

805 for $99 http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/13203917

Totally in the same price range IMHO.

If i had to choose between the two, i'd probably get the 915. Either that or i'd just wait another 2 months or so and get a E6300. I'm sure it's going to be like 179.00 w/mobo by then.
September 22, 2006 12:59:02 AM

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915 for $139 http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/13185374

805 for $99 http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/13203917

Totally in the same price range IMHO.

If i had to choose between the two, i'd probably get the 915. Either that or i'd just wait another 2 months or so and get a E6300. I'm sure it's going to be like 179.00 w/mobo by then.


I would agree with you and icblue it is the same price range. and as a D805 owner I would have to say it a bad choice at this point in time given that 4.1ghz requires a higher end mobo and watercooling.
I know its kind of late for the op but the E6300 would be best if you cant swing one then a D915.
I do think though that the D805 does warrent some buyers, kind of like me that want the absolute cheapest cpu but not "celeron" performance so i can oc the crap out of it and wait till quad core comes out. I have been thinking about conroe but i just dont see the performance increase i would like so this leaves me some time to save $$$$
September 22, 2006 2:23:04 AM

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I read the article about the Pentium D 805 2.6ghz processor being overclocked to 4.1ghz per core!! Being amazed and curious I was wondering if anyone has tried to copy the article with success. I'm looking at upgrading my old pc. I do a lot of 3d animation and the thought of dual 4.1ghz cores was quite hard to believe. Would i really see a huge increase in performance instead of buying a normally clocked dual core. I mean..118$ for a dual 4.1ghz is awesome. What about life span?


I had an 805, but I just couldn't stand the heat that it generated. At 3.8 GHz it was hard to keep cool even with a Zalman 9500. I don't think that the 915 was available when the original article was written. It's well worth the few extra dollars for the 915. Higher OC potential + twice L2 cache of 805 = better value.
September 22, 2006 6:05:17 AM

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I had an 805, but I just couldn't stand the heat that it generated. At 3.8 GHz it was hard to keep cool even with a Zalman 9500. I don't think that the 915 was available when the original article was written. It's well worth the few extra dollars for the 915. Higher OC potential + twice L2 cache of 805 = better value.

A PentiumD is hardly worth anything now that for ~$180 you can get a retail E6300 to beat them all.
Fighting agains AMD, Intel is also fighting against it's own 'old' dual cores. I don't think they will get much money from the PD series with all the Conroe myth and AMD inertia. Buyers will be mostly uninformed people because anyone who's been reading two lines of reviews knows 1+1=2.
September 22, 2006 8:39:11 PM

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I had an 805, but I just couldn't stand the heat that it generated. At 3.8 GHz it was hard to keep cool even with a Zalman 9500. I don't think that the 915 was available when the original article was written. It's well worth the few extra dollars for the 915. Higher OC potential + twice L2 cache of 805 = better value.

A PentiumD is hardly worth anything now that for ~$180 you can get a retail E6300 to beat them all.
Fighting agains AMD, Intel is also fighting against it's own 'old' dual cores. I don't think they will get much money from the PD series with all the Conroe myth and AMD inertia. Buyers will be mostly uninformed people because anyone who's been reading two lines of reviews knows 1+1=2.

I agree - unless you're on a really tight budget, there's no compelling reason to get a Pentium D instead of a Core 2 Duo. Intel will probably have to give them away in the coming months to clear out inventory.

Some vendors are trying pretty hard to get rid of the D's already. A guy came to me a couple of days ago with a quote from Dell. The Dell was based on the D 915 but the E6300 was an option - for an extra $350 CDN. That's more than $120 over what the bloody chip retails for, and certainly way more than Dell paid for it. It seems obvious to me that Dell was trying to steer the consumer away from the Core 2 Duo.

In my case, I was on a tight budget when I went from the 805 to the 915. I also upgraded my RAM and motherboard at the same time and they both cost a lot more than the hardware they replaced. The C2Ds were still pretty rare and expensive at the time. I made sure to buy a Conroe-ready motherboard.

The guy who was looking at the Dell wants to take the D 915 off my hands so it looks like I'll be getting an E6300 pretty soon. I wonder if the extra multiplier is worth $50 more for the E6400?
September 25, 2006 2:06:00 PM

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I agree - unless you're on a really tight budget, there's no compelling reason to get a Pentium D instead of a Core 2 Duo. Intel will probably have to give them away in the coming months to clear out inventory.


There is probably an element of truth in this however for me the D805 is a transitionary step and will do me until the 6600 becomes more affordable.

For £80 I got the D805 and a motherboard that also takes my old RAM and AGP card and Ive overclocked to 3.5GHZ without any additional cooling or stability problems and its lightening fast. The motherboard I picked up has DDR2 support and also takes the Duo CPU's so Ive got some amount of future proofing anyway.

I moved from an old AMD 64 3500 so even if I wanted to get the latest and greatest AMD CPU I would still have had to have changed the motherboard. It was probably a good time to come back to Intel anyways.

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IcBlUsCrn said "again if you cant afford the difference you shouldnt be buying a cpu."

Thats actually a quite an arrogant remark to make. Not everyone needs the latest and greatest hardware.

Here in England even the 6300 is in excess of £100 while the D805 can be had for around £50 (or even less if you hunt around). That to me means these two CPU's arent in the same pricing range.

Also, as I said above, for me the total cost of my upgrade was £80. However I would have had to add another £40 for the 6300 plus another £30 for a cheapo motherboard...and thats without adding more on top for a quality HSF.

BUT at some stage I will change over to the duo...just not now while prices for the 6600 are so high.

Mailman

ps. I work in the banking industry so money really isnt a problem...its just that I dont really like to spend more than I have to :) 
September 25, 2006 3:29:04 PM

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I agree - unless you're on a really tight budget, there's no compelling reason to get a Pentium D instead of a Core 2 Duo. Intel will probably have to give them away in the coming months to clear out inventory.


There is probably an element of truth in this however for me the D805 is a transitionary step and will do me until the 6600 becomes more affordable.

For £80 I got the D805 and a motherboard that also takes my old RAM and AGP card and Ive overclocked to 3.5GHZ without any additional cooling or stability problems and its lightening fast. The motherboard I picked up has DDR2 support and also takes the Duo CPU's so Ive got some amount of future proofing anyway.

I moved from an old AMD 64 3500 so even if I wanted to get the latest and greatest AMD CPU I would still have had to have changed the motherboard. It was probably a good time to come back to Intel anyways.

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IcBlUsCrn said "again if you cant afford the difference you shouldnt be buying a cpu."

Thats actually a quite an arrogant remark to make. Not everyone needs the latest and greatest hardware.

Here in England even the 6300 is in excess of £100 while the D805 can be had for around £50 (or even less if you hunt around). That to me means these two CPU's arent in the same pricing range.

Also, as I said above, for me the total cost of my upgrade was £80. However I would have had to add another £40 for the 6300 plus another £30 for a cheapo motherboard...and thats without adding more on top for a quality HSF.

BUT at some stage I will change over to the duo...just not now while prices for the 6600 are so high.

Mailman

ps. I work in the banking industry so money really isnt a problem...its just that I dont really like to spend more than I have to :) 

I'm glad that you're happy with your 805. I liked mine but it ran hot when I overclocked it, forcing me to turn up the fan on my nice new Zalman cooler. The fan was louder than I cared for - my "old" Athlon64 was nearly silent in comparison. I found somebody to buy my 805 so I moved up a little to the 915. The 915 gave me an extra 300 MHz and I'm able to leave the Zalman at 2100 RPM where it runs relatively quietly. I could probably get another 200 MHz out of the 915 but I'd have to turn up the fan some more.

I don't remember if Tom's 4.1 GHz 805 article mentioned the noise of the fan when the 9500 is running full tilt. If I had known that it was going to be loud, I probably would have saved up a little longer for a watercooling setup. Oh well - 4.0 GHz is plenty fast. I have little to complain about.
September 25, 2006 4:08:39 PM

Yea, running a PD805 right now is pretty much pointless. To get it the absolute most out of it you'll need a mobo as expensive as a C2D, a watercooling setup, 900 jigawatts of power, etc. etc. I've pushed mine as far as 4.2Ghz semi-stable, but usually keep it around 3.6 so as not to kill my power bill. I didn't get it for performance or anything, just as a fun project. It's like buying a used Pinto, dropping a big-block in it and getting it up to Ferrari or Lambo speeds. Still a Pinto though. I disagree with the fellow who said only 30% of the 805's are capable of achieving this level of overclock. As a counter-argument I would advance that only perhaps 30% of people on this forum are willing to match the proc with a capable mobo and then spend time coaxing the max overclock out of it. CPU's are generally pretty uniform nowadays, true, there's slight variations among batches and so forth, but I'd be willing to wager that if one were to gather up a sizable sample of 805's of this particular stepping roughly 90% of them could be overclocked above 4Ghz. Why am I rambling you ask? Because I can. And also I'm very, very lonely.
September 25, 2006 5:10:59 PM

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IcBlUsCrn said "again if you cant afford the difference you shouldnt be buying a cpu."

Thats actually a quite an arrogant remark to make. Not everyone needs the latest and greatest hardware.

Here in England even the 6300 is in excess of £100 while the D805 can be had for around £50 (or even less if you hunt around). That to me means these two CPU's arent in the same pricing range.

Also, as I said above, for me the total cost of my upgrade was £80. However I would have had to add another £40 for the 6300 plus another £30 for a cheapo motherboard...and thats without adding more on top for a quality HSF.

Mailman

ps. I work in the banking industry so money really isnt a problem...its just that I dont really like to spend more than I have to :) 
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talking about the difference between the d915 and the d805 and my statement remains true maybe something's is being lost in translation.


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I do think though that the D805 does warrent some buyers, kind of like me that want the absolute cheapest cpu but not "celeron" performance so i can oc the crap out of it and wait till quad core comes out. I have been thinking about conroe but i just dont see the performance increase i would like so this leaves me some time to save $$$$


there is where you are wrong while i get the point of having something temporary till quad core, the fact that you are overclocking gives the d915 a huge edge and makes the d805 a paperweight.

lets face it the d805 is dead. I am not saying if you have one go throw it away i am saying if you are looking for a new cpu and dont want to buy a e6300 the logical choice for overclockers would be a D915.
September 25, 2006 5:44:43 PM

Hey, IcBlUsCrn, did you ever figure out what was causing your crappy Superpi time on the DQ6/6600? I'm getting ready to purchase same combo.
September 25, 2006 11:36:19 PM

nope and it was depressing as all hell because hardware wise i tried everything but the cpu, but everyone still seems to think t was a ram issue ( i tried corsair twinx 667/800mhz ocz platnium 800mhz)I dont think it was ram because my 3dmark06 cpu scores did not break into 2k, I think I might of screwed it up when i was trying to get it to run on my p5wd2-e and trying different mods but i dont see how. I dont have the cpu anymore but still have the mobo so I'm still debating what cpu to buy, i'm in no rush as i have other projects.
September 26, 2006 12:10:13 AM

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nope and it was depressing as all hell because hardware wise i tried everything but the cpu, but everyone still seems to think t was a ram issue ( i tried corsair twinx 667/800mhz ocz platnium 800mhz)I dont think it was ram because my 3dmark06 cpu scores did not break into 2k, I think I might of screwed it up when i was trying to get it to run on my p5wd2-e and trying different mods but i dont see how. I dont have the cpu anymore but still have the mobo so I'm still debating what cpu to buy, i'm in no rush as i have other projects.


Did you see the whole big post about the DQ6 acting screwy with micron-based ram? Coulda been a factor, I don't know who builds the chips for corsair. Did you get a real early release DQ6? Seems like a ton of people had issues with the first few batches. I'd just swap out that mobo for a new one and have a go at it from scratch. I guess I kinda hijacked this thread, but I don't feel bad as it wasn't really going anywhere anyway.
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