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August 28, 2006 4:47:40 AM

I've posted this in homebuilt section but no replies, forgive me for reposting here =)

Hi all, this is my 1st time posting even though I read this forum everyday. Ive read through most of the reboot issues other ppl encountered and I feel my case might be a little different and would like some help to shed some light on my case.

I have a pretty old system that I've built in '02:
Athlon xp3200+
nForce2 ultra 400 BIOS 1004
1.5 gig Kingston HyperX pc3200 ram
Antec TruePower 350w
eVGA 7600gs AGP (using cd driver for lack of support of new drivers)
NEC 20wmgx2 LCD

About 2 weeks ago I've upgraded my ram (from 512--> 1.5gig of same exact ram, from 1 stick in single channel mode to 3 sticks in dual channel) and video card (from radeon 8500LE-->geforce 7600gs agp) becuase I wanted to max out this system before passing it to my gf and building a new system next year for myself. Everything worked fine until this morning when I woke up to find my computer constantly rebooting itself every 2-3 seconds. my LCD wouldnt even be able to show POST bb4 the system reboots itself. I manuelly powered down the system by turning off my power supply from the switch in the back. After about an hour I turned on my system and everything booted up normal. I worked on my comp for 2 hours with no problem. Before I left for work I left Azureus on to continue dling some stuff, no other apps were open. 3 hours later my gf comes home to find my computer doing its self reboot every 2-3 secs again. I haven't been able to test out more of my system because I have no other computer at home and hence im posting at work. My initial impression is that it's over heating, but I've never encountered that problem in the past 5 years using this system and my computer didn't over heat after my upgrades for 2 weeks (and I leave the computer on most of the time for downloads over night). Any suggestions? Thanks in advance and I'll try to follow up as much as I can.

side note: my computer is not OCed nor is my vid card
August 28, 2006 5:24:58 AM

sorry for not specifying the mobo, its A7N8X-E Deluxe
as far as memory goes, the manuel does support having 3 slots filled and in dual channel mode. when i installed the sticks there was no problems POSTing and it passed memtest in dual channel mode (was detected automatically). This whole rebooting issue didnt start till 2 weeks after upgrade was done, and i ran my comp almost 24/7 since (rebooting here and there).
August 28, 2006 5:29:51 AM

If you think its over heating, do you have software that monitors the CPU temp?

Speed fan is free:

Speed Fan

Also, if your temps look okay, perhaps running Memtest could help you determine if the ram is running correctly:

Memtest86

You can download and burn the ISO to a cd to run that program for around 6 hours at the most, I think.

Also, since its around 4 years old, did you blow out the dimm slots to free it of dust? Wonder if some dust is causing anything with the modules.

GL.
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August 28, 2006 5:34:48 AM

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sorry for not specifying the mobo, its A7N8X-E Deluxe
as far as memory goes, the manuel does support having 3 slots filled and in dual channel mode. when i installed the sticks there was no problems POSTing and it passed memtest in dual channel mode (was detected automatically). This whole rebooting issue didnt start till 2 weeks after upgrade was done, and i ran my comp almost 24/7 since (rebooting here and there).


Sorry, I deleted my post, after doing some searching. I think I found another MB that had 3 slots, and it showed it could populate all 3 dimm slots with SS/DS.

Ahh.. so it was running okay for awhile. hmmmm.

Edit:

Might be possible that you have spyware running on it. Does the task manager show usage when it should be idle?
August 28, 2006 5:36:38 AM

Hmmm it very well could be dust in the DIMM I kinda just plugged the new sticks in and since everything started up fine i didnt check. I'll run the tests you suggested and check the slots for dust ASAP when I get home and post my results when I get home. Thanks for your input and I hope i can narrow it down to something simple =)
August 28, 2006 5:46:51 AM

Heh, I edited my other post.

Not sure if you use any spyware programs to rid the system of unwanted background software.

Spybot Search & Destroy is good.
Windows Defender

Could try:

Trend Micro HouseCall

For free scanning.

Also another thought came to mine. Your 350W PSU, could possibly be another thing causing the reboots. If you could lighten its load, unplug perhaps CD/DVD Rom, anything not in use to lighten the load to see if it can run longer. 3 stick of RAM will consume around an extra 21watts
August 28, 2006 6:12:06 AM

its quite possible my PSU is not keeping everything up. I 4got to mention that I switched from a lite-on cd-rom to a nec dvd-rw (not sure if that takes more power). also, my PSU is at the minimum requirement for my new vid card (350w, 18 amp on +12 rail). With the power consumption of 2 sticks of ram/vid card and possibly dvd-rom, now it makes sense that my PSU is dying...dunno how it didn't occur to me after reading so many posts about people getting random reboots a good amount of them point to PSU as source of problem. main reason i thought my case might be different is because it reboots at such a fast rate (2-3 seconds max, monitor doesnt even get to light up) over and over again, then boots up fine after I leave it off for 1 hour. just seemed to me its the cpu's self protection when over heating thats causing it...but then again im no expert when it comes to how cpu responds to overheating hence im posting =D
August 28, 2006 7:06:44 AM

When you say it will boot up fine after about an hour. I would guess it is a PSU problem. It is a fairly old PSU, not beyond the lifespan, but if you leave it on a lot it could very well be the problem. But just to be sure, try to lightly wiggle the CPU heatsink&fan and see if you accidently bumped it loose while installing your RAM or something.
August 28, 2006 1:12:26 PM

ok....I tried isolating the problem, unplugging 1 thing at a time to see if anything changes. I took some load off my PSU bu unplugging my dvd-rom, HDD, and eventually even the extra power into vid card. Same thing occurs, restarts every 2-5 secs. I even got booted restart when im in BIOS.

the strange thing is. sometimes its quick restart as if i pressed the restart button (even if i have the restart button unhooked from mobo) and other times the system completely shuts off, then magically turns itself on after 5-10 seconds. the mobo light was always on though unless i flip the switch in back of PSU, which was the only way i could get the system to stop turning itself on and off. i also tried removing some ram and switching DIMM but it changed nothing

tool_462: i checked position of HSF and its still very secured, non of the pins were off.

this is by far my weirdest computer experience....the HSF was warm to touch so im pretty sure my cpu is not over heating, so the only 2 things i can think of is either my PSU is shot and its powering itself on/off (although mobo light was always on regardless) or some how my mobo fried when i left it on over night....atm my system always restart or shut down by i even get to winxp loading screen =( has any1 experienced this b4?

edit: when the comp is actually on the PSU fan seems to spin normal and LED light is on. all fans work till systems shuts it self off, i could still adjust cpu fan speed through control knob
August 28, 2006 3:56:42 PM

The LED light on the mobo usually stays on for a little bit even after you shut off the power (same for lights on keyboard and some optical mouse). I believe it's just a bit of a capacitance thing. So I'm just saying that the light should not be an indicator if your PSU is the problem or not.

Have you tried pulling all your new stuff out and putting the old stuff back in?
August 28, 2006 4:46:24 PM

On the off chance, Do you have a Fan Controller on your PC?
I had one of these reostat types that decided to go south, Fan itself kept running fine but my system would reboot at random. Removed the speed controller and have not had any other problems with random reboots.
August 28, 2006 4:51:09 PM

Check the temps on the other things as well, like the northbridge and ram.
August 28, 2006 10:16:10 PM

trixst4r: ya i have swapped the old parts back in, same results

Teine2006: i have the fan controller that came with the tt case and the one for cpu (coolermaster aero7+). i disconnected the case controller, same issue still

theaxemaster: I've checked the temps by means of touching right after the system shuts itself down. ram=cold, northbridge cold, cpu fan, warm


k now the system shuts off then starts itself up more often than just restarting. i smell a kind of sweet smell emitting out the back of the PSU. i think imma pick up a PSU at best buy to see if it changes anything.
August 28, 2006 10:50:04 PM

Sounds like a classic memory or hardware conflict, try memtest.org's software, also try swapping each ram stick one at a time to see if it runs, if nothing to avail, check the voltages,
August 28, 2006 11:46:27 PM

Doesn't even sound like he can get far, since it reboots.

I'd say the 350W PSU should be the workable min, since it did run for 2 weeks with the extra RAM installed, but there's a good chance a power surge may have took somewhat of a toll on it, since its around 4 years old, and runs for a considerable amout of time. (heh, and the smell coming off it).

Hopefully a new PSU will get the system to be stable again.
August 29, 2006 5:53:29 AM

ok. I've took out everything and connected a BFG 650w PSU (bought from best buy for test purposes, made sure i could return it even opened =D). with only ram/vid card hooked into mobo, it was still the same. 1 thing i noticed is that the temperature from on the mobo (cpu fan/northbridge) feels warm to the touch...however the SOUTHBRIDGE (MCP-T) feels significantly hotter, is that normal? or have i found the source of my problem? it doesnt really burn my finger, but i have to take my finger off after laying on it for a few secs.

EDIT: I took out the new ram I've bought and left my old stick in system. the resets/shutdown still keeps occuring.
August 29, 2006 6:08:26 AM

Gawd.. you didn't have to get a 650W PSU.

So its still constantly rebooting?

Just to be sure.. when does it reboot?

During POST?

Can you get into the bios?

After POST, and the Win logo comes up?
August 29, 2006 6:15:14 AM

lol i know i didnt need a 650w psu, however best buy was real close and thats the only psu they carry heh. didnt care for the overkill was just to test if any difference in change to rule out my psu...which it did.

during the reboots its weird, at 1st ill barely be able to get in bios, but b4 i can even navigate through it my comp restarts...and soon enough its restarting at the speed my monitor doesnt even get to show post. eventually the system will just shut down. after maybe 10-20 seconds it turns on again then shuts down. from then on it just repeats turn on/shut down...arg 8O
August 29, 2006 6:24:32 AM

Man.. heh, that is an annoying problem.

I did search and found one other forum, on your board:

Open Tech Support - Random reboots

One of the people repling pretty much points out his problem was having a wire stop his CPU fan, which in turn, cause his CPU temp to go up.

How clean is that HS, and is the Fan in good shape? I'm pretty much thinking now your right about CPU temps, but then, you were not able to get into the bios to see what it reached.

:oops: 
August 29, 2006 6:47:31 AM

wow nice find! I've been searching for hours for some1 who experience same problem lol. Thing is before I hooked up the 650 psu, I took everything out and cleaned out all dusts on fans/case. I took off the HSF and cleaned out the dust piled on the fan fins as best as i could, then cleaned both the cpu core and HSF with high concentrated alcohol, reapplied some AS5 then reseated the HSF. after that i just put mobo in case with ram/vid card and plugged psu to mobo. everything started off just like usual and the reset/shutdown continued to plague me :?

EDIT: for their case though it was because wire got stuck. mines is totally free and spins. if only i can get into bios...
August 29, 2006 7:16:02 AM

Welp... I'm pretty much fresh out of ideas.

Thing is.. you said it ran fine for 2 weeks with the memory upgrade.

Kinda wonder if a power surge hit your system, and caused this type of problem. Hard to trouble shoot systems when that happens.

Did you notice any burnt traces or molex plugs (20 pin MB connector)?

Have you tried, for the hell of it, resetting the bios by jumper?

Edit:

Found another forum:

SysOpt Forums - Asus

Soo.. yer not alone. :lol: 
August 29, 2006 7:57:50 AM

lol in fact i did reset CMOS. when i took the mobo out to clean i took out the battery and i put it back together after like an hour (which should reset it since from what i read its recommended 30 minutes).

i checked all capacitor on mobo/vid card (didnt check psu since the 650 was giving me same problem. no visible leakage/swelling. no burn marks anywhere. im leaning toward some sort of powersurge thats making it run funny...after all, i left it on for 2 days downloading, checking it every 8-12 hours when i get home from work. on the 2nd day i wake up and find it going ape sh!t lol...however im still not very sure if its a powersurge. none of my clocks reset and i was able to use my computer again after hard-off for 1 hour. left house after 2 hours of problem free use and my gf calls me to tell me its going ape sh!t again. GAWDDDD!

the last article u linked me mentioned he heard clicking noise from HDD, i heard nothing and problem persists with HDD disconnected lol.
August 29, 2006 8:46:34 AM

Sorry if didn't read carefully,my head's full of text :lol:  but hav u tried minimal boot, wit 1 stick of ram at a time n ur mobo just lying on..say a phone book?
August 29, 2006 8:53:44 AM

hehe sorry i tend to write up as much detail as possible.

ya ive tried booting with nothing but ram and vid card installed, 1 ram at a time at different slots. same situation
August 29, 2006 9:58:54 AM

While reading this I first thought PSU but my second thought is yer graphics card memory as its been left on and its new, sounds much like a dry solder joint too me :) 
August 29, 2006 10:02:37 AM

thing is, ive tried using my old one, and problem still occurs. sorry for being a noob can u give a quick explaination wat dry solder is?
August 29, 2006 7:28:12 PM

Its basically the same as cold solder or dry joint, cold joint.

Its where the copper track and wire don't get hot enough, when being soldered together on the circuit board.

aBg_rOnGak was also saying running mininum components but outside the case. The reason for that is to be sure the back side of the MB isn't shorting out on anything.

I'm still fresh out of ideas, but perhaps one thing you can try, is to either remove all the ram, or just take out the video card, to see if you can make the bios beep, to indicate its trying to tell you no memory is installed, or video card is not installed.

That way you know the bios is working properly, through the beeps. Athough, my Asus MB has voice to tell me errors through the onboard sound card. If it still looks like its trying to reboot, even with the memory out or video card out, there could be a chance the bios isn't working. Dunno if the bios chip would be worth replacing.

Again.. that thought (that it ran fine for 2 weeks) reminds me of a power surge. Even though you may have experienced power surges that may reset your clock, I've seen my UPS kick in on power surges. I also have clocks that reset, but that doesn't always happen.

I dunno, perhaps its time to save up and build yourself a better system.
August 29, 2006 7:52:37 PM

I also would suggest like Wusy to pull everything out except CPU and see if you get those error beeps and if it does, leave it on and see if it reboots itself, if it does, most likely your mobo is gone (does best buy sell mobo with full refunds? :twisted: )

I hope you get your problem fixed soon 8)
August 29, 2006 8:32:01 PM

Who you calling a Wusy? :lol: 

Heh, I didn't see a reply from Wusy on this thread.. :?
August 29, 2006 8:38:10 PM

I read thropugh all the replies and tried to get into my head as best as possible what has been tried and done.

First possibility was the psu, but you tried changing that and no help. Except for age, you psu should have enough watts. But it could have just gone the way of old psu's. Second was ram, but you tried all the sticks, including the original and the problem remained. The graphics card is a possible problem, but that shouldn't cause continual reboots.

Last thing that I can think of is the motherboard. You stated that you left the computer on for a long time and there may have been a power surge. That can cook a motherboard, especially an old one. You tired clearing the BIOS and that didn't help. You haven't mentioned any beep codes, or I missed that. I used to have one of those motherboards, and it died very suddenly. A few random restarts, then nothing.

If you know someone with a similar computer who is willing, try switching various pieces of your basic hardware; ram, graphics card, even the cpu into his and see if your hardware works. The hard disc might also be checked. Jumper it as a slave on the second computer and see if you can access everything. If all your basic hardware does work, then what's left is the motherboard.

Just an idea, but when all else is eliminated, you know. Oh yes, one last thing would be to try reinstalling windows if all else fails.
August 29, 2006 8:48:27 PM

It definitely sounds like your Power Supply. I had upgraded my CPU, MOBO, more RAM, and Graphics Card on an already 2.5 year old system and it worked well for a few weeks. Then it would shut down sometimes. Then the shutdowns became more and more frequent until it was unbearable.

I ended up replacing the PSU and never had a problem since. After wear and tear, my PSU had had a brown-out rather than a complete burnout. But it got more and more burnt and unstable with time, hence the more frequent shutdowns. This was probaly due to un upgrade of more power-hungry components on an already used PSU. Hope this helps.
August 29, 2006 9:04:03 PM

Here's my sugesstion since no one else said anything about it =/

Take everything out of the case mobo everything.. lay it out and then plug everything in(I know its a pain in the butt to do it, however its probably one last solution)... If it doesn't reboot when you do that then its a good possibility that you had a short on the mobo .. ground w/e, since you did switch out a lot of components and may have bumped or nudged some areas on the board that's likely to short and cut the power off.
August 29, 2006 9:10:11 PM

Out of ideas ey :D  I read through al the posts too like Sailer. I had a socket A board I must have changed the RAM around a hundred times with no problems. Then one day I changed the RAM around. The computer started acting weird. Like rebooting at it's leisure. The screen would just go blank and the system would restart randomly. I couldn't solve it. Even RMA'd a stick of Kingston RAM which I thought was the problem. New stick, same problem. My best guess was the number 2 DIMM slot went bad. I finally just replaced the MB with and ASUS NF2 Deluxe. Still have the board running today, but stuffed away in the closet with Vista Beta 2 installed. OP ran that board a long time and for long hours. Looks like something on the board just gave out. Try getting a new board and put all your other parts in and see what happens. HTH
August 29, 2006 9:42:00 PM

I would surely have bet that your problem was a weak p/s or mobo component in the p/s circuit. Electronic components can change value when subjected to heat over long periods of time and the initial warm-up time before your problem occured seemed to indicate a heat problem. A power surge like others have mentioned could have pushed your mobo over the edge.

Since you eliminated your p/s as the possible culprit. inspect the p/s power plug socket for that "cold solder joint". (Thats a solder joint that looks good but because of a vibration or crack, is not electrically sound.)

Or look into your DIMM sockets and see if you didn't bend a pin with the installation of the new ram.

Good Luck
August 29, 2006 9:49:14 PM

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I would surely have bet that your problem was a weak p/s or mobo component in the p/s circuit. Electronic components can change value when subjected to heat over long periods of time and the initial warm-up time before your problem occured seemed to indicate a heat problem. A power surge like others have mentioned could have pushed your mobo over the edge.

Since you eliminated your p/s as the possible culprit. inspect the p/s power plug socket for that "cold solder joint". (Thats a solder joint that looks good but because of a vibration or crack, is not electrically sound.)

Or look into your DIMM sockets and see if you didn't bend a pin with the installation of the new ram.

Good Luck


Good information, but I still use that same Power supply today. OP bought a new power supply. Same problem. Stressed board you say. Overvolted...surged...Yeah, I agree. Swap out the MB.
August 29, 2006 10:52:10 PM

Quote:


Good information, but I still use that same Power supply today. OP bought a new power supply. Same problem. Stressed board you say. Overvolted...surged...Yeah, I agree. Swap out the MB.


The more I think on this, the more I think the motherboard is the problem. Yes, do the swap.
August 30, 2006 1:16:47 AM

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Who you calling a Wusy? :lol: 

Heh, I didn't see a reply from Wusy on this thread.. :?


Sorry about that Grimmy. I was reading another post and Wusy was saying something and I must of mixed it up :oops:  . My dearest apologize to you sir.

I would not suggest switching a mobo with someone else unless you really know what you are doing, nothing like ruining your friends computer also :? .

Best buy it.
August 30, 2006 1:24:53 AM

thx for every1's response :o 

things took a strange turn...i just put everything back in, hooked it up like how i had it set up b4, and left 1 stick of ram in DIMM slot 1. it booted it up and tells me new cpu installed has to be configuered. after save and exit it shows my xp3200 on post. THEN it went back to shutdown as usual. however, when i boot again it shows my cpu as athlon 1050 mhz....hmm... was able to get in BIOS again, and my settings were still saved....ok....didnt change a thing and did save/exit again, and now post shows athlon xp3200.

so the new info ive gathered is that after it shuts down/reboot on its own, it shows my cpu as unconfiguered, how ever if i got into bios and just save/exit it shows up right....till the next reboot. wtf???
August 30, 2006 1:37:40 AM

Bios Battery about dead?

Hmmmm... those batterys are rated to last around 5 years max, but I do recall one system that I never changed the battery till recently. It was in there for around... oh geesh, 9+ years? :lol: 

Only real difference is, the CPU was configured by jumpers or the CPU itself since it was a PIII.

If it can't seem to keep it configurations, then that could be another problem. The battery would cost around 1.50 or 2 bucks.
August 30, 2006 1:41:24 AM

Is there a Grimmy senior?
August 30, 2006 1:43:30 AM

would the mobo battery be the reason y it keeps rebooting? its not that everytime it reboots the bios setting went back to default (the bios setting was the same after my initial set up, but the post keeps saying otherwise).

i would think that if the post showed the settings were reset, the bios would show the same....however bios setting was intact heh
August 30, 2006 1:54:14 AM

Looks like you have tryed everything else so far so let me say a word:

Keeps restarting and not a PSU or spyware/virus so.......UNPLUG the reset button!!

Now if that does not work your MB has lived it's life.
I built alot of systems with that board (and other Asus boards) and they always die after X amount of running time mostly from the caps going bad.

If it turns out to be the MB get a DFI next time.

Pls PM me if it was the reset switch.
August 30, 2006 1:54:19 AM

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Is there a Grimmy senior?


Not understanding the question.. :?

Quote:
would the mobo battery be the reason y it keeps rebooting? its not that everytime it reboots the bios setting went back to default (the bios setting was the same after my initial set up, but the post keeps saying otherwise).

i would think that if the post showed the settings were reset, the bios would show the same....however bios setting was intact heh


I do remember a time when I was changing the color for the bios screen. And I do remember that it lost that setting, but can't remember if the other settings were disturbed or changed.

Also the less I went into the bios, the less it... changed. That was on my Thunderbird CPU system. Gawd, I never did change that battery either. :shock:

I also remembered a battery bios that died in a Compaq workstation. It just wouldn't boot, but didn't constantly reboot like yours did.

I dunno.. might be worth trying.
August 30, 2006 1:57:46 AM

Is there a Grimmy senior?

Quote:
Not understanding the question.. :?


I noticed someone is registered on the forumz as Grimmysnr? Thought there was a connection.
August 30, 2006 1:59:56 AM

Ahh... welp, nope.

I'm just me. I actually came up with this nick from my linux machine that I named.. grimmy. :lol: 
August 30, 2006 2:02:29 AM

Quote:
Ahh... welp, nope.

I'm just me. I actually came up with this nick from my linux machine that I named.. grimmy. :lol: 


:D  Yep I started to use the name my x often called me, but u pric!k. just didn't seem fair the way I see it 8O
August 30, 2006 2:21:26 AM

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Keeps restarting and not a PSU or spyware/virus so.......UNPLUG the reset button!!

Now if that does not work your MB has lived it's life.
I built alot of systems with that board (and other Asus boards) and they always die after X amount of running time mostly from the caps going bad.



lol i actually tried that also, i only plug in the power sw to mobo and it still does same. plus, if it was just a reset button stuck, it wouldnt be resetting at random times and mess with post/bios. also i did inspect all the caps, no leak/swelling (im also aware it might not be visible, but visually nothing is amiss)

any1 ever experience having to replace mobo battery to fix issue like this?
August 30, 2006 2:35:12 AM

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any1 ever experience having to replace mobo battery to fix issue like this?


No, never have. I did one time replace a mobo battery, but for a completely different problem.
August 30, 2006 2:47:15 AM

The only other thought I have about the bios battery, is that once the system is up and running in windows, if the battery is very low or out of juice, I don't think it would cause the system to reboot. (I could be seriously wrong on that, so don't quote me :lol: )

But, I've never taken the bios battery out while the systems running.

:lol:  . o O (Mythbusters talking in my mind... "Remember, don't try this at home... ever.")

Though, the bios battery would have impact on a system starting up, usually. I just don't recall constant rebooting.

The only time my system constantly reboots, is if the memory setting or FSB is beyond its limit (yes if i goof up). So shutting it off (holding the power button 4 sec), then turning it on, gets me back into the bios, since it will sense/perhaps remember a failure startup.

Which reminds me, I do recall you saying you shut it off by the swich on the back of the PSU. Do you know if your Asus MB supports that overclock reset feature, to where if you set your bios to a configuration that won't run, all you do is shut it off, holding the power button in the front, then turn it back on, it automatically sets it to run at stable settings, and starts up right into the bios?
August 30, 2006 3:44:08 AM

hmm the i dont recall this particular board having that feature. anyways i havent OCed this build, and i did reset cmos so all settings were back to stock. its just weird that when i enter bios all the settings are saved and nothing changed, but when the comp reboots the post itself says otherwise and tells me to go into bios to correct settings. but when i enter bios the settings r right and upon exit the post shows correct settings until it reboots again lol.

i lifted the mobo battery and spotted very little dark marks on the bottom side of the battery. doesnt look like burn mark but rubbing it wont clear it away. makes me wonder...

the cmos reset instructions are to 1)remove battery 2)move jumper 3)move jumper back 4)install battery. assuming that the mark i saw on the battery was interfering with mobo stability, could it possibly be that since cmos was not reset (hence the bios was unchanged regardless of all the reboots), the post kept resetting (reading my cpu as 1050 mgz instead of xp3200) because of the battery? god im even confusing myself now.
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