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5-Inch Full HD Smartphones to be More Common in 2013

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December 16, 2012 9:18:21 PM

good, the bigger the screen the better.
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December 16, 2012 9:37:30 PM

To a point.
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December 16, 2012 9:38:35 PM

i dont know, but i think 5in screen size being standard is kinda big
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December 16, 2012 9:40:11 PM

I don't know, if it fits comfortably in my pocket sure, but not much bigger than that. There is a point where portability will be a factor too...

Full HD resolution on the other hand is a welcome improvement!
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December 16, 2012 9:47:23 PM

440 ppi that is nice, wish that your average desktop monitor could match.
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December 16, 2012 9:47:34 PM

Can't figure out why people like the bigger phones so much.

The full 5" screen phones don't fit comfortably in my pocket. Shopping for a new phone right now myself, and I've already ruled out the 5" Droid DNA, 4.8" Galaxy S3, and 4.7" Droid Razr Maxx because neither of them fit in my pocket comfortably. Those are like the top three Android phones out there.

I must have small pockets or somethin'
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December 16, 2012 9:48:19 PM

evan1715good, the bigger the screen the better.

There are practical limits to how large a "phone" can be.

Also, the display is the biggest battery drain on most devices by a fair margin and that power draw is almost directly proportional to display area, which means bigger displays will eat into battery life. Not necessarily a good thing for people who want to use their phones mostly as phones.

1080p on a 5" screen seems overkill to me but I suppose we have reached the point where manufacturers are starting to have to throw everything including the kitchen sink in to justify their price tags and convince people to open their wallets.
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December 16, 2012 10:13:05 PM

I cannot imagine having anything larger than my Droid Razr Maxx's 4.7". When is enough enough? Getting to 6" and up is pushing tablet territory for crying out loud. Who wants to carry a 6" phone in their pockets? Women can put them in purses, but men don't have that option (straight men anyway).
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December 16, 2012 10:31:48 PM

The bigger it is and the thicker it is the longer is its endurance.
Bigger screen! Thicker battery! All for your ever tighter hipster pants' pockets!!!
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December 16, 2012 10:35:32 PM

Screen size doesn't affect battery life as the Gnote 2 has proven. It has a better battery life than the S3 and most smartphones out right now.
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December 16, 2012 11:37:51 PM

chase3567Screen size doesn't affect battery life as the Gnote 2 has proven. It has a better battery life than the S3 and most smartphones out right now.


Bigger display means bigger phone and bigger phone means that you get room for a big battery as well. If big screen meant poor battery life, tablets battery life would suck, but the opposite is actually true.
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December 16, 2012 11:38:44 PM

I miss phones, but I love what their doing to these new things though.
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December 16, 2012 11:38:52 PM

ParsianThe bigger and thicker it is the longer its endurance isBigger screen thicker battery for tighter pockets


RIP English language.
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December 16, 2012 11:41:26 PM

can't help put thinking that some guys used to put a sock into they pants to add sole 'bulge.
Nowadays a phone will do the trick.

Comedians make jokes about the 'bricks' we used to have as phones back in the 70s and 80s.
Then we went smaller and smaller... now we are slowly getting back to brick size.

But the good thing is, they are Smart Bricks :) 




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December 17, 2012 12:12:28 AM

Ragnar-KonCan't figure out why people like the bigger phones so much.The full 5" screen phones don't fit comfortably in my pocket. Shopping for a new phone right now myself, and I've already ruled out the 5" Droid DNA, 4.8" Galaxy S3, and 4.7" Droid Razr Maxx because neither of them fit in my pocket comfortably. Those are like the top three Android phones out there.I must have small pockets or somethin'

Cargo pants and shorts. They have big enough pockets to fit a small laptop, and can be classy enough to match almost any occasion :D 

I'm finally getting my first smartphone this week, and I am heavily leaning towards that nice big Lumia 920. Size and weight are of little concern.
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December 17, 2012 12:17:13 AM

As a big fan and user of the Droid DNA, I have gotten used to it in about a day after switching from a HTC HD2. Love the 1080p screen, apps scale phenomenally and it doesn't drain the battery as much as I would have thought. The DNA also standbys amazingly and after common use with LTE running 24/7, it remains with about a 70% by the end of a working day.

The 5" screen isn't a problem for me probably because I have big hands compared to others and I have no difficulty touching one end of the screen to the other end(like the Apple commercial, "Your thumb goes from here, to here"). It's probably too big for most and I would say around 4.3"-4.7" is more ideal, but a big hand user like myself, I love the 5" display!
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December 17, 2012 12:25:52 AM

Ragnar-KonI must have small pockets...

Yep, it appears so. :) 
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December 17, 2012 12:30:37 AM

I fail to see the need for displaying 1080p on a 5" screen, 720p is way more than enough.
Now outputting 1080p to another monitor is a different story...
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December 17, 2012 12:41:01 AM

wannabeproTo a point.

InvalidErrorThere are practical limits to how large a "phone" can be.Also, the display is the biggest battery drain on most devices by a fair margin and that power draw is almost directly proportional to display area, which means bigger displays will eat into battery life. Not necessarily a good thing for people who want to use their phones mostly as phones.1080p on a 5" screen seems overkill to me but I suppose we have reached the point where manufacturers are starting to have to throw everything including the kitchen sink in to justify their price tags and convince people to open their wallets.

He's being sarcastic...

Ragnar-KonCan't figure out why people like the bigger phones so much.The full 5" screen phones don't fit comfortably in my pocket. Shopping for a new phone right now myself, and I've already ruled out the 5" Droid DNA, 4.8" Galaxy S3, and 4.7" Droid Razr Maxx because neither of them fit in my pocket comfortably. Those are like the top three Android phones out there.I must have small pockets or somethin'

Because Android appeals to customers who want more out of their phone, while at the same time hates Apple.

CaedenVCargo pants and shorts. They have big enough pockets to fit a small laptop, and can be classy enough to match almost any occasion I'm finally getting my first smartphone this week, and I am heavily leaning towards that nice big Lumia 920. Size and weight are of little concern.

Cargo pants and shorts are NOT classy.

Old_Fogie_Late_BloomerYep, it appears so.

Or maybe he has good fashion sense.

chase3567Screen size doesn't affect battery life as the Gnote 2 has proven. It has a better battery life than the S3 and most smartphones out right now.

The Gnote 2 has a battery that's almost 50% bigger than the S3.

10tacleI cannot imagine having anything larger than my Droid Razr Maxx's 4.7". When is enough enough? Getting to 6" and up is pushing tablet territory for crying out loud. Who wants to carry a 6" phone in their pockets? Women can put them in purses, but men don't have that option (straight men anyway).

Someone with fashion sense here, but most "men" around here probably wear x-large cargos that can fit a 13" laptop and a women's purse.

nforce4max440 ppi that is nice, wish that your average desktop monitor could match.

I thought everyone dissed Apple for emphasizing their ppi specs. Double standards I guess.
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December 17, 2012 12:51:26 AM

InvalidErrorThere are practical limits to how large a "phone" can be.Also, the display is the biggest battery drain on most devices by a fair margin and that power draw is almost directly proportional to display area, which means bigger displays will eat into battery life. Not necessarily a good thing for people who want to use their phones mostly as phones.1080p on a 5" screen seems overkill to me but I suppose we have reached the point where manufacturers are starting to have to throw everything including the kitchen sink in to justify their price tags and convince people to open their wallets.

True, but bigger phones can also have bigger batteries. A battery's storage is based on volume, so it might even out.
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December 17, 2012 1:07:12 AM

nforce4max440 ppi that is nice, wish that your average desktop monitor could match.


You think? Anything above 300ppi and the human eye isn't going to be able to tell the difference. The pixels are so tiny at that point that it won't matter how you blend them. The wasted resolution strains the CPU/battery unnecessarily when a lower resolution would have sufficed. It would have actually been better to run it at 720p so spare processing could have added smoothing techniques.

Devices made by CEOs who just want to copy others and show higher numbers rather than designed by people who actually understand technology. Devices to be sold to customers who buy things because they're new and have fancy stickers rather than the best tech. They don't care if it doesn't fit in your pocket, just buy it already.
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December 17, 2012 1:09:12 AM

I have Samsung Galaxy Note II which sports a 5.5" screen. It's perfect size for what I use it for. On occasion it barely fits in my pocket but can't imagine 6.3" would do?
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December 17, 2012 1:38:16 AM

kinggravesYou think? Anything above 300ppi and the human eye...


The human ear also can only hear up to about 20KHz (depending on age).
and yet a clarinet produces overtones that are well above it and are responsible for making one clarinet playing a 'C' sound different than another clarinet.

Obviously the ear can hear something above the 20KHz 'limit' or both insruments would sound the same.


The same holds true for vision. There is a difference between the limit we consciously 'see'; and the part we see without knowing.

Besides, I have a feeling that playing back 1080p content on a native 1080p screen is more efficient than having a processor recalculate each frame down to say 1280x720 or whatever your device has.
Any engineers here who could comment on that ?



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December 17, 2012 2:41:24 AM

Did everyonne forget that GPS screens used to be 5"+?'
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December 17, 2012 4:27:52 AM

Unfortunately, the evolution of smartphone display with bigger hands is far ahead of the slow evolution of human hands towards bigger sizes.
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December 17, 2012 7:24:54 AM

I wouldn't mind that size but due to my Fat Fingers i still prefer 7 inches.
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December 17, 2012 1:55:00 PM

kinggravesYou think? Anything above 300ppi and the human eye isn't going to be able to tell the difference. The pixels are so tiny at that point that it won't matter how you blend them. The wasted resolution strains the CPU/battery unnecessarily when a lower resolution would have sufficed. It would have actually been better to run it at 720p so spare processing could have added smoothing techniques.Devices made by CEOs who just want to copy others and show higher numbers rather than designed by people who actually understand technology. Devices to be sold to customers who buy things because they're new and have fancy stickers rather than the best tech. They don't care if it doesn't fit in your pocket, just buy it already.


Another internet x-spurt saying what he's heard from some other internet x-spurt, and actually has no basis in fact.
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December 17, 2012 1:58:04 PM

Stop toying with toys. Just make me some 80" smartphones!!!
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December 17, 2012 2:09:50 PM

kinggravesYou think? Anything above 300ppi and the human eye isn't going to be able to tell the difference.

Actually, it can. While it cannot distinguish individual pixels even at 200dpi under most normal viewing circumstances, the smoother and crisper contours are still perceivable going from 300dpi to 600dpi to 1200dpi. Printing at 300dpi is enough to produce comfortably clear text and graphics but 600dpi simply looks more pleasant.

freggoThe human ear also can only hear up to about 20KHz (depending on age).and yet a clarinet produces overtones that are well above it and are responsible for making one clarinet playing a 'C' sound different than another clarinet.Obviously the ear can hear something above the 20KHz 'limit' or both insruments would sound the same.

The human ear is a low-pass filter, an average ear truly cannot sense anything much beyond 20kHz. The reason why two different instances of the same instrument sound different is because they have different shapes and that leads to slightly different baseband tone and potentially very different harmonics profile which are very much within the audible range. Sound can also be affected by the way the player blows into it, the thickness and material the reed is made of, wear on that reed, etc. so you could have two persons play the very same physical instrument (with their respective preference of reeds) and have substantially different sounds.

For sight, resolution is limited by cone/rod density and the reason why we can "sense" higher resolution is because there is less aliasing (staircasing) between adjacent photoreceptors. This is much like increasing sampling frequency in audio from 48kHz to 96kHz: we still cannot perceive much beyond 20kHz but there is a lot less aliasing, distortion and loss of details beyond the 16kHz mark. While Nyquist says you need to sample at 2X the max input frequency to reproduce a signal, you need at least 3X to come anywhere close to faithfully doing so - this is part of why many audiophiles shunned CD-Audio.
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December 17, 2012 2:24:03 PM

So iPhone fans... are you ready for 2014 or 2015 when iPhones will have 5"?
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December 17, 2012 3:00:57 PM

My HTC Evo 4G is too big for me. I'd let the Note 2 slide because of the pen feature. If there's no pen and it's for my fingers I'd rather have like a 3.5" handset. I miss my old Nokia coffins. They made phone calls and texts really well. Battery life was like 2 weeks too.

Nowadays if I don't charge my phone every day, sometimes twice, I'm screwed. It's less durable as well.
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December 17, 2012 3:53:47 PM

freggoThe human ear also can only hear up to about 20KHz (depending on age).and yet a clarinet produces overtones that are well above it and are responsible for making one clarinet playing a 'C' sound different than another clarinet.Obviously the ear can hear something above the 20KHz 'limit' or both insruments would sound the same.The same holds true for vision. There is a difference between the limit we consciously 'see'; and the part we see without knowing.Besides, I have a feeling that playing back 1080p content on a native 1080p screen is more efficient than having a processor recalculate each frame down to say 1280x720 or whatever your device has.Any engineers here who could comment on that ?


Comparing the way an aural signal is received by the ear to the way a visual signal is received by the eye is absurd even in concept. Also, just play the content in 720p and save yourself some space/bandwidth.

Marcus52Another internet x-spurt saying what he's heard from some other internet x-spurt, and actually has no basis in fact.


Until you provide concrete evidence or a degree in Ophthalmology your opinion has as much basis as any other "X-spurt".

InvalidErrorActually, it can. While it cannot distinguish individual pixels even at 200dpi under most normal viewing circumstances, the smoother and crisper contours are still perceivable going from 300dpi to 600dpi to 1200dpi. Printing at 300dpi is enough to produce comfortably clear text and graphics but 600dpi simply looks more pleasant.


PPI, DPI, and printing tends to end up with a lot of confusion. It usually takes a much higher DPI on a printer to recreate the quality of the PPI on a screen, as a printer cannot produce as many colors as a display with it's dots.

Either way guys, justify buying a new phone for the "better display" if you want. People that have reviewed the DNA's display vs other high PPI phones cannot tell much of a difference from a reasonable distance. If you have it unreasonably close or you have the vision of a superhero then maybe you won't see pixels anymore. Personally I think the GPU could be doing better things than trying to force a ridiculous resolution for clarity under 6". It's just a marketing pitch, like "Retina Display" was. These phones are "Full HD", buy now.
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December 17, 2012 4:02:36 PM

DarkkI have Samsung Galaxy Note II which sports a 5.5" screen. It's perfect size for what I use it for. On occasion it barely fits in my pocket but can't imagine 6.3" would do?


That's Apple hoopla, the eye can't discern more then 300 ppi at a "certain distance", if you hold the phone closer then that optimal distance you can see pixelation.

Apple assumes the user holds the phone 5 inches or more away from their face, making 326 ppi optimal. While I agree more than that on a phone is probably worthless since you probably are not going to hold a phone more than 5 inches from your face, it still doesn't hurt to go over.
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December 17, 2012 4:03:47 PM

kinggravesYou think? Anything above 300ppi and the human eye isn't going to be able to tell the difference. The pixels are so tiny at that point that it won't matter how you blend them. The wasted resolution strains the CPU/battery unnecessarily when a lower resolution would have sufficed. It would have actually been better to run it at 720p so spare processing could have added smoothing techniques.Devices made by CEOs who just want to copy others and show higher numbers rather than designed by people who actually understand technology. Devices to be sold to customers who buy things because they're new and have fancy stickers rather than the best tech. They don't care if it doesn't fit in your pocket, just buy it already.


That's Apple hoopla, the eye can't discern more then 300 ppi at a "certain distance", if you hold the phone closer then that optimal distance you can see pixelation.

Apple assumes the user holds the phone 5 inches or more away from their face, making 326 ppi optimal. While I agree more than that on a phone is probably worthless since you probably are not going to hold a phone more than 5 inches from your face, it still doesn't hurt to go over.
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December 17, 2012 4:04:30 PM

jamesjones_detThat's Apple hoopla, the eye can't discern more then 300 ppi at a "certain distance", if you hold the phone closer then that optimal distance you can see pixelation.Apple assumes the user holds the phone 5 inches or more away from their face, making 326 ppi optimal. While I agree more than that on a phone is probably worthless since you probably are not going to hold a phone more than 5 inches from your face, it still doesn't hurt to go over.



grr... replayed to the wrong comment!
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December 17, 2012 4:49:38 PM

CaedenVCargo pants and shorts. [...] can be classy enough to match almost any occasion.

Maybe in the USA. Take into consideration that not all countries wear tourist clothes on their daily lives.
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December 17, 2012 7:33:09 PM

Maybe.. (hoping) Just maybe this will end the God Awful trend of skinny pants on men. Surely a 5" phone can't fit in those.. and frankly I'm tired of seeing em. Maybe I'm old fashioned :/  but why do guys want to wear women's clothes??
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December 17, 2012 7:58:39 PM

Hopefullu we will allso have good 3.5", 4" and so on models... The thing to worry is that best hardware will only come in "big" packed. Some people like bigger phones, some smaller. But I think that allwants to have better screen, better battery, longer usage time etc...
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December 17, 2012 8:21:05 PM

I went 5.3 inches with the Note 1 from the now tiny Iphone 4 and never been happier. Looking forward to the Note 3 next year, my next upgrade!
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December 18, 2012 3:38:05 PM

Smart phones have been out for a few years now. It's not like large screen sizes are the ONLY phones to choose from. I'm very content with my LG G2x with its dual core/4.0" screen. This phone came out April 2011.

Don't complain about the market only offering large phones when THERE ARE smaller phones available.
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March 31, 2013 10:55:42 PM

5" with around 200-220dpi already best to me. So then it might actually come cheaper, not dictated price with brand bloated specs. Don't need for more except phoning, messaging, and light gaming. I don't spend too much time staring at my smartphone, squeezing movies, or whatever that already fit my other electronic devices. That is why laptop and LCD TV are more suitable for the rest like pc gaming, office works, and watching movies.

It sounds personal, but many might think it as I do.
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