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August 28, 2006 12:47:01 PM

I'm building a computer for my roommate. He isn't really a gamer, but does occassionally play games like Civ4, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, and similar games. He wants to spend as little as possible, so I'm looking to get him the best parts for his money. He is currently on a 5-year-old laptop. I want to build a system that will last him for several years and has plenty of room for upgrades.

So I'm definetely not going to get him integrated graphics, but I'm having some trouble picking out a low end card that is pretty decent for light gaming. Here are my options.. oh and I don't want to spend over $100.

6600
6600GT
7300GT
X800GTO
X1300XT

Currently I'm thinking the X1300XT. It was recently released and has the same specs as a X1600Pro, but is set to cost $89! Plus, it is in ATI's X1 series, so it should be newer technology.

But maybe you see a card there that is better value. Let me know! Also, I'm wondering how the 7300GT runs.. is it worse than the 6600/6600GT? And the X800GTO.. it's older technology, so probably not as good for a new system?

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August 28, 2006 1:33:18 PM

Stick with the 6600GT or the X800GTO, your friend might even be able to unlock the X800GTO go a X800XL :D . The X1300 is a low end card so the performance is really bad, the 6600GT would smoke it easily.
August 28, 2006 3:09:28 PM

If you want his system to last several years beyond now, forget about the X800. It has good speed but stick with a newer gen card that supports SM3.0 even for light gaming. Also cross off the x1300. Get the 6600GT or X1600 Pro, although I don't know much about the 7300.
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August 28, 2006 3:58:48 PM

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The X1300 is a low end card so the performance is really bad, the 6600GT would smoke it easily.


The new X1300 XT is actually a rebadged X1600 PRO, so it would stand up alright against the 6600 GT pretty well (although the 6600 GT would probably be slightly better on average).

The X1300 XT is a great card for under $100.

The X1650 PRO should be around $100 as well, and it's a rebadged X1600 XT.
August 28, 2006 4:02:24 PM

Well @ both of you: The X1300XT is a new card with equivalent specs to a X1600Pro (not the X1300 which you both mention). And he isn't really a gamer, but I want to build in the option for atleast lower end gaming. Oh, I doubt he will ever play a FPS. Generally more of the strategic games. So you're sure that the new X1300XT won't be good enough value (he is currently playing on a 5-year-old laptop)?
August 28, 2006 4:04:03 PM

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The X1300 is a low end card so the performance is really bad, the 6600GT would smoke it easily.


The new X1300 XT is actually a rebadged X1600 PRO, so it would stand up alright against the 6600 GT pretty well (although the 6600 GT would probably be slightly better on average).

The X1300 XT is a great card for under $100.

The X1650 PRO should be around $100 as well, and it's a rebadged X1600 XT.

Basically, do you think the X1300XT will be okay for light gaming? Or is it a strictly non-gaming card? Meh, I need benchies!

Also, I read that the X1650Pro is only a 10Mhz increase. But I guess the price is good.
August 28, 2006 4:04:09 PM

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The X1300 is a low end card so the performance is really bad, the 6600GT would smoke it easily.


The new X1300 XT is actually a rebadged X1600 PRO, so it would stand up alright against the 6600 GT pretty well (although the 6600 GT would probably be slightly better on average).

The X1300 XT is a great card for under $100.

The X1650 PRO should be around $100 as well, and it's a rebadged X1600 XT.
Thank you. I'm tired of people who don't know what they're talking about spreading potentially misguiding information.

-mcg
August 28, 2006 4:16:35 PM

Alright, the X1650Pro does look like the better buy. $10 over the X1300XT for a 300Mhz increase in RAM and 100Mhz increase on the GPU. All other specs appear the same 8O
August 28, 2006 4:30:24 PM

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Basically, do you think the X1300XT will be okay for light gaming? Or is it a strictly non-gaming card? Meh, I need benchies!

Also, I read that the X1650Pro is only a 10Mhz increase. But I guess the price is good.



Even the X1300 PRO is good for light gaming. The X1300 XT might even be overkill for light gaming... it's about as good as a 9800 XT.

If you need benches, just find benches of the X1600 PRO... it's EXACTLY the same card as the X1300 XT, but with a 10 mhz slower core. That 10 Mhz core increase isn't going to make a difference, so the benches will tell the story.

I should say though... I don't think you can buy these cards yet. The X1300 XT and X1650 PRO were just announced.
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August 28, 2006 4:49:54 PM

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If you want his system to last several years beyond now, forget about the X800. It has good speed but stick with a newer gen card that supports SM3.0 even for light gaming. Also cross off the x1300. Get the 6600GT or X1600 Pro, although I don't know much about the 7300.

Never fails to amaze me when people will recommend a slow SM3.0 card over a much faster Sm2.0 card. The X800GTO will destroy the 6600GT, and the 6600GT doesn't come close to having the power to make SM3.0 a benefit. :roll:
August 28, 2006 5:06:56 PM

So how much for the 1650Pro? If its under or about $100 it's a pretty good bang for the buck. I'd also recommend looking into an older but faster SM2.0 card. I don't see games REQUIRING SM3.0 for some time, and when they do a 1300XT or 1650Pro probably won't cut it anyway.

-mcg
August 28, 2006 5:09:56 PM

Anandtech say $99 for the X1650 Pro 8O
August 28, 2006 5:16:46 PM

How well does Civ 4 play on your buddy's current laptop?
August 28, 2006 5:22:17 PM

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Never fails to amaze me when people will recommend a slow SM3.0 card over a much faster Sm2.0 card. The X800GTO will destroy the 6600GT, and the 6600GT doesn't come close to having the power to make SM3.0 a benefit. :roll:

Ah, it looks like the X1650 Pro will keep up with and even pass the X800GTO in many benches. And it's the same price and newer. But you're right, the X800GTO does beat the 6600GT
August 28, 2006 5:24:25 PM

Civ4 runs okay on his lappy. He only has the minimum specs. I expect him to play newer games down the road (ie. Heroes of Might and Magic 5)
August 28, 2006 5:27:41 PM

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I should say though... I don't think you can buy these cards yet. The X1300 XT and X1650 PRO were just announced.
That's true. But won't they be released in sept with the X1950? Oh.. maybe I'll have to wait :cry: 
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