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August 28, 2006 5:05:46 PM

My X1900XT was having problems useing the CCC overdrive. it would get half way through then lock up on me.
a few weeks ago i ask for help on how to use the CCC and and a guy told me to use ATI tray tools instead of the CCC. that led to a huge debate between the ape and the other guy :lol: 
anyway i found out the problem was that the CCC sucks at controling the temps of the card.
so i used the ATI tool trays fan control options to set the fan at 80% while using the CCC overdrive to OC the card and it worked perfectly.
the card never got hotter than 65C where as before it was getting around 85C and crashing.
so for that poor guy that got owned by great ape. i did find one thing that tray tools can do better than CCC :p 
now the card is set to 662/720..
August 28, 2006 10:30:09 PM

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My X1900XT was having problems useing the CCC overdrive. it would get half way through then lock up on me.
a few weeks ago i ask for help on how to use the CCC and and a guy told me to use ATI tray tools instead of the CCC. that led to a huge debate between the ape and the other guy :lol: 
anyway i found out the problem was that the CCC sucks at controling the temps of the card.
so i used the ATI tool trays fan control options to set the fan at 80% while using the CCC overdrive to OC the card and it worked perfectly.
the card never got hotter than 65C where as before it was getting around 85C and crashing.
so for that poor guy that got owned by great ape. i did find one thing that tray tools can do better than CCC :p 
now the card is set to 662/720..


curious on this one: by "get half way through" do you mean you used the auto set function that "determines" the clock for you? If that is the case I would strongly reccomend to not use that feature of any software for any hardware. Rarely does it work, and reality is that doing it "manually" w/ small steps results in a much more stable clock at the true highest points for a given system.

This is not meant as a defense of ccc (or slam of ati tools) but rather a support of proper OC'ing methods. ;) 
August 29, 2006 2:04:49 AM

I just bought an x1900xt, and did the auto oc thing. wierd but the first time i ran it, it went through fine. second time, it started crashing half way. crashing meaning i would get an error and the screen would go black for a sec. the error would say graphics driver was reset, blah blah. so you say use ati tools to set the fan, then oc with catalyst? is there a tutorial on this? does this damage my nice new vid card? the first time when i ran the auto oc, and it worked, i fired up FEAR and the game looked fantastic, why doesnt it look like that normally?(all settings were high, and at 1280by1050)
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August 29, 2006 4:16:52 AM

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I just bought an x1900xt, and did the auto oc thing. wierd but the first time i ran it, it went through fine. second time, it started crashing half way. crashing meaning i would get an error and the screen would go black for a sec. the error would say graphics driver was reset, blah blah. so you say use ati tools to set the fan, then oc with catalyst? is there a tutorial on this? does this damage my nice new vid card? the first time when i ran the auto oc, and it worked, i fired up FEAR and the game looked fantastic, why doesnt it look like that normally?(all settings were high, and at 1280by1050)
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no, what I am saying is that whatever you use (cat or atitools) you should do it "manually". I.e. step the sliders up manually and not w/ any "auto-config" utility. For catalyst that means just unlock the overdrive function and slowly move the sliders up. For each ~5 mhz you should then test it for a while. 3dMark or UT2004(on a loop) both work for that. If you start to see graphical glitches, you have gone to far and back it down to the last known good step and/or try smaller step increments at that point. It is time-consuming, but it is the right way to oc. If you hit the ceiling of the cat drivers (which can happen quickly) then atiTools is the only way.

Not really sure why someone does not like the cat's settings for temps as they work fine for modest oc'ing. Naturally atiTools has a finer-tuned setup but as you mentioned that could void the warranty. (depending on maker) What was mentioned above just increases fan noise. Yes, at the reduction of heat but even a "nice" 20-30 Mhz oc can be had on some cards using nothing more then default cat settings and the overdrive.

If warranties are not a concern and you want better management to try for higher clocks then for sure use atiTools for the whole job. (To use the 'tools at all disables the cat temp monitor/adjustments anyway)

Hope that was clear enough for ya... good luck. ;) 
August 29, 2006 5:25:57 AM

pretty clear, quick couple questions:
how safe is the ati overdrive? do i risk damaging the card?
what temperature is too high while running a game?
i am a newb, and would preferably do things the safe way which may just mean no overclocking....i could play with the 3d settings a bit...
August 29, 2006 2:38:12 PM

hey man, we were all n00bs at one time so no worries ;) 

any oc'ing could damage a card. If you take the clock up in small steps, testing in between then you will save yourself that heartache. The R580 core in the 1900s can take a LOT of heat, more so than any other gpu I have seen since I can remember. At first seeing 80 C scared me, and even the ~70 C (both on stock speeds depending on game) was a worry... but it just takes it like a champ. Just unlocking the overdrive will not do anything, and even taking it up the first roughly 10 Mhz or so will be painless as well. (should be anyway ;)  )

The one thing to look for after each step is that when you test the system each time you should run tough graphics to heat up the core. When you have gone too far you will notice the glitches and you can ratchet back down. With small steps you avoid going way too far and bringing damage. Small steps ensure no damage...

Honestly though, to start you may just want to use the card as-is if you are sketchy about any of this. That 1900xt is plenty fast for current stuff, and much of what is coming around the corner. My card is only clocked about 15Mhz over stock just b/c I messed w/ it and left it. On stock cooling my card hit the ceiling at about 30Mhz over on the memory, and 25 on the core. Mine was bought early in the run of that core though, yours may go much higher. Sometimes the alure to fiddle w/ the speed outweighs the fact that you dont need it yet. lol ;) 
August 30, 2006 2:34:43 AM

Hey sojrner: thanks for the advice and not flaming!
I reset my card back to normal speeds and started playing BF2 and it hit 85C normal clocks. I think that's to hot for something I payed so much for and no one of as yet knows what the long term effect of running those temps can do to the card ' since no one has ran one longer than 6 months '.
who's to say after 8 months with 85C temps the card won't die?
sure some might have extended warrenties, but that's extra cash and hassle :D  :D 

I mean the card runs nice and cool and when in 2D mode with no extra voltage.
So i deleted CCC off my comp since the fan control on it blows, and just use ATI tray tools so when I game my temps stay at 60C.
Some might say buy the V90.. well I payed over 300.00 for the card and shouldn't have to buy an aftermarked fan to keep it cool at stock speeds.
or ATI should look into making CCC more fan friendly..
Hey maybe the cards were built to run at those temps, but i'm not testing it!
August 30, 2006 3:17:27 AM

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My X1900XT was having problems useing the CCC overdrive. it would get half way through then lock up on me.
a few weeks ago i ask for help on how to use the CCC and and a guy told me to use ATI tray tools instead of the CCC. that led to a huge debate between the ape and the other guy :lol: 
anyway i found out the problem was that the CCC sucks at controling the temps of the card.
so i used the ATI tool trays fan control options to set the fan at 80% while using the CCC overdrive to OC the card and it worked perfectly.
the card never got hotter than 65C where as before it was getting around 85C and crashing.
so for that poor guy that got owned by great ape. i did find one thing that tray tools can do better than CCC :p 
now the card is set to 662/720..


Ati Tool or Ati Tray Tools? either one is really better than anything CCC offers.

ATI TOOL is an overclocking utility and it allows you to adjust fan speed, adjust voltages for additional tweaking and does not limit your OC to a gay 690core 800mem all while loosening Mem Timings like CCC:roll:

ATI Tray Tools is just a interface to take the place of CCC but it offers you many more options along with Triple Buffering for Direct 3d games plus its profile settings are much easier to work with. 8)



Any way I use ATI TOOL and ATI TRAY TOOLS. My current stable OC on my X1900XT is 730core and 832mem using ATI TOOL 8) Current 3d mark 05 score is 12,600 on my setup.

X2 4800 @ 2.7ghz
X1900XT @ 730core 832mem
August 30, 2006 3:33:03 AM

I have owned mine since the start of Feb and never see an issue. Granted, I have a lifetime warranty on it so if something does happen I am covered for a good while.

I have seen articles that state ati's position on it was that the card could handle that temp and they chose the fan speeds for noise. If noise is not an issue for ya then changing the speed on it from atiTools is cool too. I do know that it was a concious decision on the part of ati, so the card can handle it. (and there are no issues on any forums of heat killing anything that I have seen)

of course, I have that nice warranty that I dont want to kill just yet. ;) 

the 'tools are great, but ccc does not really "blow" as such... just has less options. rock on man. :) 
August 30, 2006 3:55:01 AM

I don't mind the leaf blower, keeps me from hearing my g/f snoar at night :lol: 
I only have it set to 50% once it hits 65C, so to me it's not that loud, but to others i guess it is.
CCC is a great program, but i like the fan control on ATT and it gives the same options as CCC.

The ones who made titanic said it couldn't be sunk :D 
I'm sure nvidia was blind sided by the 7900GT failures..
I'm not like some who when a new card or CPU comes out ' here's 500 bucks '
my comps on top. I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to my temps, so it'll last me all those years my trusty geforce3 did 8)
August 30, 2006 4:33:45 AM

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I don't mind the leaf blower, keeps me from hearing my g/f snoar at night :lol: 
I only have it set to 50% once it hits 65C, so to me it's not that loud, but to others i guess it is.
CCC is a great program, but i like the fan control on ATT and it gives the same options as CCC.

The ones who made titanic said it couldn't be sunk :D 
I'm sure nvidia was blind sided by the 7900GT failures..
I'm not like some who when a new card or CPU comes out ' here's 500 bucks '
my comps on top. I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to my temps, so it'll last me all those years my trusty geforce3 did 8)


totally understand man. rock on. :D 
August 30, 2006 4:46:58 AM

humm, i just am curious i was hoping i could run fear at full res and settings, i run it now and i see some lag or just not 100% smooth. granted my monitor is old, prob isnt best, also it is fearcombat which is online so might be lag. anyway, with 2 gigs of ram, E6400 and the x1900xt, i should be able to blow 1280by1024 away maybe 1600by1200?
August 30, 2006 6:03:42 AM

But again, people are ignoring my result on Cat 6.3.

OVERDRIVE WORKS PERFECTLY! The Overdrive test ran GPU clock up to 689 and mem clock up to 792 before crapping out. And that was with temp held at 90 degrees throughout the test.

After seeing the app go to those numbers, I pulled back to 670/770 when running games just to be safe. I have run Oblivion, Riddick, and Prey demo with not the slightest glitch.

On Cat 6.8 I get the same bad result as the original poster. The Overdrive test hangs before raising mem clock at all. Going by those results the poster sets his memory at 720, even after applying the fan fix. This behavior is a pure bug ATI needs to fix.

In addition to the memory clock bug, they now seem to limit the frequency sliders at 668/765 (sliders bounce back to those limits when set higher). That is just plain cruel to anyone who installs watercooling. Cat 6.3 would allow a 700/800 setting.

So it is a simple request to ATI. Restore Overdrive to the quality and freedom of control that existed in 6.3. Save us from having to install kludgy third party tools.

But now that they are going out of the standalone graphics card business (wake up and smell the coffee people), the need to keep customers like self-builders is zero. So I'm not holding my breath.
August 30, 2006 12:55:15 PM

so, if my vid card is stock, with no cooling applications, how hot is too hot? fear would be the good game to test i guess. is fear a beast to run because of its engine? will unreal 2007 be able to run at very nice speeds? generally unreal use a much better engine than other games......
August 30, 2006 2:10:43 PM

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But again, people are ignoring my result on Cat 6.3.

OVERDRIVE WORKS PERFECTLY! The Overdrive test ran GPU clock up to 689 and mem clock up to 792 before crapping out. And that was with temp held at 90 degrees throughout the test.

After seeing the app go to those numbers, I pulled back to 670/770 when running games just to be safe. I have run Oblivion, Riddick, and Prey demo with not the slightest glitch.

On Cat 6.8 I get the same bad result as the original poster. The Overdrive test hangs before raising mem clock at all. Going by those results the poster sets his memory at 720, even after applying the fan fix. This behavior is a pure bug ATI needs to fix.

In addition to the memory clock bug, they now seem to limit the frequency sliders at 668/765 (sliders bounce back to those limits when set higher). That is just plain cruel to anyone who installs watercooling. Cat 6.3 would allow a 700/800 setting.

So it is a simple request to ATI. Restore Overdrive to the quality and freedom of control that existed in 6.3. Save us from having to install kludgy third party tools.

But now that they are going out of the standalone graphics card business (wake up and smell the coffee people), the need to keep customers like self-builders is zero. So I'm not holding my breath.


you know, normally I defend ccc if only b/c it is simple and works... but if I were a n00b reading this your post would convince me to use anything but ccc. :lol:  Just the contradiction is priceless. (It works great! and it doesn't! ;)  )

but I digress... reality is that my point earlier still stands. You should not use any oc app that automatically clocks the thing. This is bad oc practice. You should do it manually in small steps. Auto-config apps do hang, they always have from time to time and ccc is no different. I actually had it hang on 6.3 for me, so it has been there for a while. Even atiTool has froze on my in the past when I tried the auto-clock in it. Point is, do it yourself and do it right.

Finally; while teh above was not meant as an argument against you but a follow up to what you said, this one IS an argument: wth are you smoking man w/ the "out of standalone graphics" thing? They have not released any statement like that. Until amd/ati say that then it is just rumor and fanboi speculation. It removes any credibility and makes you sound like a fanboi-tool.
August 30, 2006 2:29:47 PM

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ati tray tools is a cool app any way,and youre better off using it,that and,atitool,riva also supports ati cards.the ccc oc utility blows chunks;chunks is my dog. 8O



If you have a gem of a card like my X1900XT then CCC really blows in comparison to ati tool because of the limit on your oc and the fact that it messes with your mem timings :roll:
August 30, 2006 2:34:04 PM

i understand what both of you are saying and to me this one is split pretty much down the middle

Yes ATi has not said they are going out of the stand alone graphics development but it has highly rumored and probable that in late 2007 when the merger is complete ATi will focus more development on the integrated graphics solution which i think may take some edge off of their products...

as of right now its speculation and no one really knows how much AMD will effect ATi but we will see in a year or so
August 30, 2006 2:59:22 PM

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But again, people are ignoring my result on Cat 6.3.

OVERDRIVE WORKS PERFECTLY! The Overdrive test ran GPU clock up to 689 and mem clock up to 792 before crapping out. And that was with temp held at 90 degrees throughout the test.

After seeing the app go to those numbers, I pulled back to 670/770 when running games just to be safe. I have run Oblivion, Riddick, and Prey demo with not the slightest glitch.

On Cat 6.8 I get the same bad result as the original poster. The Overdrive test hangs before raising mem clock at all. Going by those results the poster sets his memory at 720, even after applying the fan fix. This behavior is a pure bug ATI needs to fix.

In addition to the memory clock bug, they now seem to limit the frequency sliders at 668/765 (sliders bounce back to those limits when set higher). That is just plain cruel to anyone who installs watercooling. Cat 6.3 would allow a 700/800 setting.

So it is a simple request to ATI. Restore Overdrive to the quality and freedom of control that existed in 6.3. Save us from having to install kludgy third party tools.

But now that they are going out of the standalone graphics card business (wake up and smell the coffee people), the need to keep customers like self-builders is zero. So I'm not holding my breath.


Not sure what's up with your computer, but mine runs CCC 6.8 just fine. I get 689/801 out of it with ease. The watercooling keeps the temp down at 41c at idle, 49c under load at present, so I'm happy with that.

I've tried ATI Tools, but my computer keeps crashing with it. I've heard some other people having similar troubles with their Sapphire cards, so have concluded that its got something to do with how Sapphire put things together. Don't know for sure. Always ready to try something and learn along the way, but for the moment, the ATI Tools haven't worked for me.
August 30, 2006 3:27:03 PM

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kludgy???????? :? is that an engineering term :lol:  8O (joking)
is that your word? what is the meaning of kludgy,could you use it in another sentence and make use of a different instance of its meaning? :) 

notify websters we have a new word. :!: :!:


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Get with the times, Daddy-O! That word is old school!

See?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kludgy

And see more?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kludge&x=30&y=8

Even Webster knows that word. :o 
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/kludgy
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August 30, 2006 3:38:07 PM

bam! :lol: 
August 30, 2006 4:18:33 PM

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But again, people are ignoring my result on Cat 6.3.

OVERDRIVE WORKS PERFECTLY! The Overdrive test ran GPU clock up to 689 and mem clock up to 792 before crapping out. And that was with temp held at 90 degrees throughout the test.

After seeing the app go to those numbers, I pulled back to 670/770 when running games just to be safe. I have run Oblivion, Riddick, and Prey demo with not the slightest glitch.

On Cat 6.8 I get the same bad result as the original poster. The Overdrive test hangs before raising mem clock at all. Going by those results the poster sets his memory at 720, even after applying the fan fix. This behavior is a pure bug ATI needs to fix.

In addition to the memory clock bug, they now seem to limit the frequency sliders at 668/765 (sliders bounce back to those limits when set higher). That is just plain cruel to anyone who installs watercooling. Cat 6.3 would allow a 700/800 setting.

So it is a simple request to ATI. Restore Overdrive to the quality and freedom of control that existed in 6.3. Save us from having to install kludgy third party tools.

But now that they are going out of the standalone graphics card business (wake up and smell the coffee people), the need to keep customers like self-builders is zero. So I'm not holding my breath.


Not sure what's up with your computer, but mine runs CCC 6.8 just fine. I get 689/801 out of it with ease. The watercooling keeps the temp down at 41c at idle, 49c under load at present, so I'm happy with that.

I've tried ATI Tools, but my computer keeps crashing with it. I've heard some other people having similar troubles with their Sapphire cards, so have concluded that its got something to do with how Sapphire put things together. Don't know for sure. Always ready to try something and learn along the way, but for the moment, the ATI Tools haven't worked for me.

Ati Tool will not work correctly with anything past 6.3 drivers.
August 30, 2006 5:42:31 PM

considering the performance improvements that have happened over the last 4 releases since 6.4 I do not consider it a good thing if that is as high as you can go on atiTools.

score one more for ccc. ;) 
August 30, 2006 5:54:48 PM

lol

I was only making a point that w/ ccc (or even "just" tray tools) you have newer driver revs. To me I have noticed a good chunk of performance improvements in the last few driver jumps that could very well negate even a good oc...

...that is my only point there. atiTools is a good app, not saying ccc is "better" at all. (but then it does not suck either) Just that I have better drivers as a result of not using atiTools. ;) 

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hmm... seems that Tom's used 6.5 w/ atiTool on that vga cooler article so you may be behind on the drivers man. ;) 
August 30, 2006 8:06:37 PM

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the latest build of ati tool does fine with cat 6.4;i used it on my x1600 pro oc version.


Not when you play an AVI or MPG. It will down clock it back to 2d speeds.

So anytime you play a game that has either say bye bye to your overclocks.
August 31, 2006 12:01:49 AM

I was running ccc 6.3 earlier, and ATI Tool kept crashing, so I tried 6.8 and got the same result. At least for my Sapphire card, there was no difference between 6.3 and 6.8. I also tried both 0.25 14 beta and 0.25 15 Beta versions of ATI Tool, with no difference in effect.
August 31, 2006 3:05:34 AM

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I was running ccc 6.3 earlier, and ATI Tool kept crashing, so I tried 6.8 and got the same result. At least for my Sapphire card, there was no difference between 6.3 and 6.8. I also tried both 0.25 14 beta and 0.25 15 Beta versions of ATI Tool, with no difference in effect.


CCC and ATI TOOL are known too not work well together when you have both and overclock with ATI TOOL.

You have to get rid of CCC and download the driver seperately, use ATI TRAY TOOLS instead of CCC for your functions of AA and AF and such.
August 31, 2006 5:32:58 AM

so i am not overclocking my gpu, but i played aoe3 and it got up to 83 celcius. how high can it go? and when should i worry? does it make sense to put an aftermarket fan/cooler on it?
August 31, 2006 1:59:33 PM

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so i am not overclocking my gpu, but i played aoe3 and it got up to 83 celcius. how high can it go? and when should i worry? does it make sense to put an aftermarket fan/cooler on it?

Reading different reviews shows that 90 is not out of the question, and mine hits that from time to time.
August 31, 2006 2:34:20 PM

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so i am not overclocking my gpu, but i played aoe3 and it got up to 83 celcius. how high can it go? and when should i worry? does it make sense to put an aftermarket fan/cooler on it?


Well lets put it this way, I had about the same temps as you before I changed to an aftermarket cooler. I put on the Accelero X2 and my temps went from 85c load to 70c load, I then got creative and mounted 2 120MM fans directly underneath the X1900XT and had the air to blow up onto the card. The results are my load temps are now 60C max and my card idles at 39C 8)

Even with the added 2 120 MM fans my system is much more silent than before when I had that leaf blower mounted to my card. You cannot even hear the Accelero X2 it is just dead silent :) 


This resulted in some good overclocks for me. 730core and 832mem using ATI TOOL. Not bad for being on air.
August 31, 2006 3:11:33 PM

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Well lets put it this way, I had about the same temps as you before I changed to an aftermarket cooler. I put on the Accelero X2 and my temps went from 85c load to 70c load, I then got creative and mounted 2 120MM fans directly underneath the X1900XT :!: and had the air to blow up onto the card. The results are my load temps are now 60C max and my card idles at 39C 8)

Even with the added 2 120 MM fans my system is much more silent than before when I had that leaf blower mounted to my card. You cannot even hear the Accelero X2 it is just dead silent :) 


This resulted in some good overclocks for me. 730core and 832mem using ATI TOOL. Not bad for being on air.


holy crap man! how much room is there under the 1900?!

regardless, the same could be done by mounting just one 120 fan pointed at the back of the stock cooler. This keeps temps down which keeps the fan from spinning up on the cooler. Quiet and much cheaper/easier then mounting an aftermarket cooler and doing the same thing. ;) 
August 31, 2006 3:26:54 PM

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Well lets put it this way, I had about the same temps as you before I changed to an aftermarket cooler. I put on the Accelero X2 and my temps went from 85c load to 70c load, I then got creative and mounted 2 120MM fans directly underneath the X1900XT :!: and had the air to blow up onto the card. The results are my load temps are now 60C max and my card idles at 39C 8)

Even with the added 2 120 MM fans my system is much more silent than before when I had that leaf blower mounted to my card. You cannot even hear the Accelero X2 it is just dead silent :) 


This resulted in some good overclocks for me. 730core and 832mem using ATI TOOL. Not bad for being on air.


holy crap man! how much room is there under the 1900?!

regardless, the same could be done by mounting just one 120 fan pointed at the back of the stock cooler. This keeps temps down which keeps the fan from spinning up on the cooler. Quiet and much cheaper/easier then mounting an aftermarket cooler and doing the same thing. ;) 

Well I actually have alot of room under my card 8) I have my Sound Card on the bottom PCI slot so that leaves enough room between the sound card and the vid card to add the fans.

One thing is for sure though, you dont get the same effect if you just place the fan at the back of the card blowing across the card. I tried it and it made little to no diff in temps. Placing the fan directly underneath the card and blowing up onto the Voltage Regulators made a huge drop in temps.


I just like using 2 fans because it covers the entire length of the card and keeps the whole frikkin thing cool 8)

I need to find my digi cam so I can show you how I have it done. 8)
August 31, 2006 3:57:06 PM

by "back of the card" I mean on the stock cooler. That is where the air intake is for it, so if the fan is blowing there it will keep the whole cooler at a better temp then anywhere else. For that arctic cooler the bottom is where the outlet/inlet is. (don't know whether it blows down or up, but I see that the fins are exposed there)
August 31, 2006 3:58:03 PM

yes please show me a picture, i would be very interested in this
August 31, 2006 4:00:20 PM

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by "back of the card" I mean on the stock cooler. That is where the air intake is for it, so if the fan is blowing there it will keep the whole cooler at a better temp then anywhere else. For that arctic cooler the bottom is where the outlet/inlet is. (don't know whether it blows down or up, but I see that the fins are exposed there)


The fan on the Accelero X2 sucks air up into it and back out through the heatsink. So the way I have my 2 120mm fans positioned is best because it is helping push air up through the fan on the Accelero.
August 31, 2006 4:02:17 PM

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yes please show me a picture, i would be very interested in this


I will be glad too. Let me find my cam and I will post it here. I have compared my temps with alot of guys who have water cooling on their X1900's and mine is right there with them and sometimes even better.
August 31, 2006 4:04:26 PM

so just as effective to put some extra fans in over a whole new gpu heatsink and fan? that would be nice! correct?
August 31, 2006 4:41:10 PM

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so just as effective to put some extra fans in over a whole new gpu heatsink and fan? that would be nice! correct?


Yeah thats pretty much it. I think the biggest temp drop on my setup is due to the fact that the Voltage regulators which are located at the rear of the card are now getting some nice cool air flowing up onto them. The voltage regulators get very hot so any air you can get to them will help. I also added some heat sinks to the voltage regulators 8)
August 31, 2006 4:57:25 PM

August 31, 2006 5:36:24 PM

that's alot of fans man. How many do you have in there?! I count 4 case fans just in view! (not counting the gpu, cpu and psu fans!) 8O

and that doesn't make too much noise? :?


...btw, you need to work on that wiring. lol ;) 
August 31, 2006 5:36:51 PM

humm
what are those fans mounted to? also, i think we have the same case, made by coolmaster? front is a wiremesh?
August 31, 2006 5:40:26 PM

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that's alot of fans man. How many do you have in there?! I count 4 case fans just in view! (not counting the gpu, cpu and psu fans!) 8O

and that doesn't make too much noise? :?


...btw, you need to work on that wiring. lol ;) 


I have 6 case fans in total and you would be really suprised at how quite this thing is. Its much quiter than when I had that leaf blower fan from ATI.

As for the wiring its a work in progress :wink:
August 31, 2006 5:41:47 PM

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what are those fans mounted to? also, i think we have the same case, made by coolmaster? front is a wiremesh?


The fans are mounted to each other with super glue :lol:  and the rear fan is mounted to the back brackets of the case.
August 31, 2006 9:26:15 PM

ok well i am a little curious about your general flow of air. the upper part seems good, just blow air straight through, but the bottom, you have two fans blowing up into the graphics card. now on my card, the only openings are at the back, where the air is blown out, and the front, the intake. i suppose i could try and blow more air into the intake, but you must have a different intake than I.
how much is a third party vga cooler, and sync, and are we still saying that one fan blowing into the intake is as good?
August 31, 2006 11:48:14 PM

Here is a pic of the general air flow.




September 1, 2006 12:28:22 AM

well, i put two more fans in my case, similar air flow as Robsx2, but i put my lower fans blowing from the front of the case, into the intake of my gpu. also have another blowing on the side of the board, prob isnt doing much but i could so i did. in total, i have 5 fans, not including the one on the cpu, gpu, or the powersupply. It isnt very quite, but fear runs about 10 degrees C cooler than before. now it goes to 70s when i am playing fear at full everything. it idles around 50 C. i suppose i can up those clocks a bit now :) 
September 1, 2006 2:17:48 AM

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well, i put two more fans in my case, similar air flow as Robsx2, but i put my lower fans blowing from the front of the case, into the intake of my gpu. also have another blowing on the side of the board, prob isnt doing much but i could so i did. in total, i have 5 fans, not including the one on the cpu, gpu, or the powersupply. It isnt very quite, but fear runs about 10 degrees C cooler than before. now it goes to 70s when i am playing fear at full everything. it idles around 50 C. i suppose i can up those clocks a bit now :) 


Cool, knocking off 10 degrees C is a good start 8)
September 14, 2006 6:04:40 PM

sorry to revive an older post, but i was reading this article, and got curious
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/30/vga_heat_pipe_co...
does this mean that the stock fan shouldnt be replaced if i just want to keep my vid card cooler without worrying about the sound?
does the ati stock fan run at full speed automatically, cause mine doesnt seem very loud....
so should i try to overclock with it? or would it be safer to get some aftermarket?

and finally on a side note, which oc utility would be easiest to start with?
September 14, 2006 6:42:12 PM

by "easiest" I assume that would be to just use the overdrive within ccc. You do not have to install any other app and you can fiddle w/ it enough to decide if you want to go further.

and stock cooler/fan is fine. It does not run @ full speed but throttles it based on temp. You will probably never hear it go full speed except on boot. It takes a high temp to get full speed under operation. ;) 
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