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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 3:33:56 PM

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I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c drive
was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not found.

I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat and
start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way to
get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I was
before the issues?

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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 5:57:30 PM

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Zattack wrote:
> I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
> partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c drive
> was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
> that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
> upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not found.
>
> I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat and
> start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way to
> get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I was
> before the issues?
>
>
You can't merge a partition with just disk management.My guess is that
you formatted the entire drive. Loading the recovery disks now won't
hurt anything. You've already lost your data. Hope you had a backup.

gls858
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 5:57:31 PM

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"gls858" <gls858@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Zattack wrote:
> > I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
> > partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c
drive
> > was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> > formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
> > that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> > drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
> > upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
found.
> >
> > I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
and
> > start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
to
> > get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I
was
> > before the issues?
> >
> >
> You can't merge a partition with just disk management.My guess is that
> you formatted the entire drive. Loading the recovery disks now won't
> hurt anything. You've already lost your data. Hope you had a backup.
>
> gls858

I know that I did not format the c drive as I was able to still operate and
do things after the format of the D drive. I am thinking the boot up is
confused on which drive to boot to to get the operating system. Granted I
am grasping at hope at this point, but I would have assumed that during the
format it would have cuased some sort of error in trying to delete
everything while I was still in drive management. Is there any way to try
and browse the c drive or get to that point?
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 6:08:10 PM

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You cannot format the system drive (C:)  in Windows. It will stop you.
Attempting to merge drives C: and D: in Drive Manager, however, removes all
partition information. The message you are getting says it all.

It is likely that the D: drive was a small partition (probably 1GB or so)
designed for backing up your Documents and Settings folder. If so, merging
the two might not gain you much. However you recover from this, I suggest
you buy an external hard drive to use to back up your system regularly. If
you decide to shop for an external drive, keep in mind that your laptop
should have a usb port to take advantage of an external device and that you
can buy external drives with bundled backup software. Buy a drive that is
at least double the size of the drive in your laptop. It will also come in
handy for storing some of the things that prompted you to try to make more
space.

Use the restore disks that came with your computer. Your laptop requires
motherboard drivers, device drivers, and utility programs that are specific
for your computer and you need the restore program to get those back onto
your system. Good luck.

"Zattack" <nospam@orionfirst.com> wrote in message
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>I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
> partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c drive
> was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
> that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
> upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> found.
>
> I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
> and
> start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way to
> get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I
> was
> before the issues?
>
>
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 6:44:34 PM

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Zattack wrote:
> "gls858" <gls858@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u0TUlkevEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>Zattack wrote:
>>
>>>I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
>>>partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c
>
> drive
>
>>>was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
>>>formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
>>>that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
>>>drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
>>>upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
>
> found.
>
>>>I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
>
> and
>
>>>start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
>
> to
>
>>>get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I
>
> was
>
>>>before the issues?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You can't merge a partition with just disk management.My guess is that
>>you formatted the entire drive. Loading the recovery disks now won't
>>hurt anything. You've already lost your data. Hope you had a backup.
>>
>>gls858
>
>
> I know that I did not format the c drive as I was able to still operate and
> do things after the format of the D drive. I am thinking the boot up is
> confused on which drive to boot to to get the operating system. Granted I
> am grasping at hope at this point, but I would have assumed that during the
> format it would have cuased some sort of error in trying to delete
> everything while I was still in drive management. Is there any way to try
> and browse the c drive or get to that point?
>
>
Hope your right and I'm wrong Zattack. I just know you can't merge
partitions using disk management. It takes third party software like
Partition Magic. What do you mean you were able to "operate and do
things after the format". It would seem logical that you would get an
error message if you tried to format the partition with your operating
system on it. But then it again it is an MS product :-) Maybe someone
else will have a suggestion.

gls858
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 6:44:35 PM

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"gls858" <gls858@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Zattack wrote:
> > "gls858" <gls858@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:u0TUlkevEHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>Zattack wrote:
> >>
> >>>I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had
drive
> >>>partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c
> >
> > drive
> >
> >>>was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> >>>formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program
files
> >>>that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> >>>drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive,
but
> >>>upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> >
> > found.
> >
> >>>I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally
reformat
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where
I
> >
> > was
> >
> >>>before the issues?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>You can't merge a partition with just disk management.My guess is that
> >>you formatted the entire drive. Loading the recovery disks now won't
> >>hurt anything. You've already lost your data. Hope you had a backup.
> >>
> >>gls858
> >
> >
> > I know that I did not format the c drive as I was able to still operate
and
> > do things after the format of the D drive. I am thinking the boot up is
> > confused on which drive to boot to to get the operating system. Granted
I
> > am grasping at hope at this point, but I would have assumed that during
the
> > format it would have cuased some sort of error in trying to delete
> > everything while I was still in drive management. Is there any way to
try
> > and browse the c drive or get to that point?
> >
> >
> Hope your right and I'm wrong Zattack. I just know you can't merge
> partitions using disk management. It takes third party software like
> Partition Magic. What do you mean you were able to "operate and do
> things after the format". It would seem logical that you would get an
> error message if you tried to format the partition with your operating
> system on it. But then it again it is an MS product :-) Maybe someone
> else will have a suggestion.
>
> gls858
>

I appreciate the advice. What I meant was that the format was done while
using the XP disk management utility. It lets you view the different drives
and you can partition, name and format them from a user friendly screen.
After formatting drive d, I closed the utility and then operated a couple
other programs, a word file and internet explorer before shutting down the
system. That is why I don't believe the c drive was harmed as that is where
most of my data resided. I think I just screwed up by making drive d also a
primary partition so now upon botting the system is confused? Not sure,
perhaps anyone else has experienced this or has advice?
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 7:05:27 PM

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Hi, Zattack.

Several things here "do not compute". :>(

First, as gls858 said, you can't use Disk Management to merge partitions.
DM can delete a partition and create a new one, or multiple smaller ones, in
that space. But DM can't shrink a partition or enlarge one or merge two.
And it can't do much of anything with the System Partition (almost always
Drive C:)  or the Boot Volume (often also Drive C:) .

> Went into drive management and
> formatted d drive,

OK. You would have been formatting D:, the logical drive within the
extended partition. An extended partition doesn't get a drive letter and
can't be formatted, but you can create one or more logical drives within the
extended partition, assign them letters and format them. So I assume that
after this you had a primary partition (Drive C:)  and an extended partition
with one freshly-formatted logical drive (Drive D:) . Drive C: was both the
System Partition and the Boot Volume.

> Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive,

WHOA! HOW did you attempt to merge Drive D: back with Drive C:?

Did you use any third-party tools, such as Partition Magic? Or only WinXP
and its built-in utilities, such as Disk Management? Or perhaps some
utility supplied by Sony? Disk Management won't touch Drive C:, normally.

> upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> found.

That could be awful - or not. Maybe it can't find the operating system
because it's looking in the wrong place - on Drive A: (the floppy), for
example, or Drive D:, where the system hasn't been installed. If you have
the retail WinXP CD-ROM, you might be able to boot it, then choose R to
enter the Recovery Console. From there, run FixBoot (and maybe FixMBR and
BootCFG) to repair your boot sector and restore your ability to boot into
WinXP. I don't know if the Sony CD has the FixBoot utility.

MAYBE all you need to do is point it back to Drive C:, but there's no way we
can tell that from here. The message could well mean that the operating
system has been erased from Drive C:. :>(

> I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
> and
> start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way to

I've never had a Sony, but "recovery disks" often take the drastic step of
returning your computer to the state it was in when it left the factory. In
other words, everything you've added will be gone and you will be starting
over. If Drive C: has, in fact, been reformatted, this might be your only
good option. I don't know whether you will have a chance to change the size
of Drive C:.

For future reference (probably too late to do any good now), there is a
program on the full retail WinXP CD-ROM called DiskPart, a part of the
Recovery Console. (This is not the same as DiskPart.exe, which can be run
from WinXP.) Whether this is on the Sony recovery disk, I don't know.
DiskPart has an /extend parameter that will "grow" a partition, if several
requirements are met. Search the Help and Support file for details, but it
probably would not have helped you in this case, anyhow.

It's not clear to me just how you reformatted D:, or whether C: is
untouched. If C: is intact, and if you can take out that HD and move it
into another computer, you should be able to recover all your data into the
other computer, then move it back into this one later.

Only you know how much the "lost" data is worth to you. If it is valuable
enough to you, and if Drive C: has not actually been reformatted, you might
buy a full retail copy of WinXP (either Home or Pro). Then boot from that
retail WinXP CD-ROM and do an in-place upgrade, as described here:
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341

This will reinstall WinXP itself but, so long as your Registry is intact on
Drive C:, it will preserve your existing applications and data. It will not
give you an opportunity to increase the size of your existing partition,
though, so you will not be better off than you were "before the issues". To
make a larger Drive C:, you really have only two options:
backup/repartition/reformat/restore, or use a third-party solution.

Many of us have had the problem of too-full Drive C:, so you will find many
threads here with tips on how to keep as much as possible in other volumes.
If you must repartition and reformat, try to make Drive C: at least 5 GB; 10
is better, and many people (including Microsoft) recommend having only a
single partition using all the space on the hard disk. (I like to separate
the few System Files into a minimal primary partition Drive C:, the
operating system itself into logical Drive D:, and applications and data
into one or more other logical drives, but that is a topic for another
thread.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP

"Zattack" <nospam@orionfirst.com> wrote in message
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>I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
> partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c drive
> was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
> that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
> upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> found.
>
> I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
> and
> start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way to
> get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I
> was
> before the issues?
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 7:05:28 PM

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"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, Zattack.
>
> Several things here "do not compute". :>(
>
> First, as gls858 said, you can't use Disk Management to merge partitions.
> DM can delete a partition and create a new one, or multiple smaller ones,
in
> that space. But DM can't shrink a partition or enlarge one or merge two.
> And it can't do much of anything with the System Partition (almost always
> Drive C:)  or the Boot Volume (often also Drive C:) .
>
> > Went into drive management and
> > formatted d drive,
>
> OK. You would have been formatting D:, the logical drive within the
> extended partition. An extended partition doesn't get a drive letter and
> can't be formatted, but you can create one or more logical drives within
the
> extended partition, assign them letters and format them. So I assume that
> after this you had a primary partition (Drive C:)  and an extended
partition
> with one freshly-formatted logical drive (Drive D:) . Drive C: was both
the
> System Partition and the Boot Volume.
>
> > Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> > drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive,
>
> WHOA! HOW did you attempt to merge Drive D: back with Drive C:?
>
> Did you use any third-party tools, such as Partition Magic? Or only WinXP
> and its built-in utilities, such as Disk Management? Or perhaps some
> utility supplied by Sony? Disk Management won't touch Drive C:, normally.
>
> > upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> > found.
>
> That could be awful - or not. Maybe it can't find the operating system
> because it's looking in the wrong place - on Drive A: (the floppy), for
> example, or Drive D:, where the system hasn't been installed. If you have
> the retail WinXP CD-ROM, you might be able to boot it, then choose R to
> enter the Recovery Console. From there, run FixBoot (and maybe FixMBR and
> BootCFG) to repair your boot sector and restore your ability to boot into
> WinXP. I don't know if the Sony CD has the FixBoot utility.
>
> MAYBE all you need to do is point it back to Drive C:, but there's no way
we
> can tell that from here. The message could well mean that the operating
> system has been erased from Drive C:. :>(
>
> > I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
> > and
> > start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
to
>
> I've never had a Sony, but "recovery disks" often take the drastic step of
> returning your computer to the state it was in when it left the factory.
In
> other words, everything you've added will be gone and you will be starting
> over. If Drive C: has, in fact, been reformatted, this might be your only
> good option. I don't know whether you will have a chance to change the
size
> of Drive C:.
>
> For future reference (probably too late to do any good now), there is a
> program on the full retail WinXP CD-ROM called DiskPart, a part of the
> Recovery Console. (This is not the same as DiskPart.exe, which can be run
> from WinXP.) Whether this is on the Sony recovery disk, I don't know.
> DiskPart has an /extend parameter that will "grow" a partition, if several
> requirements are met. Search the Help and Support file for details, but
it
> probably would not have helped you in this case, anyhow.
>
> It's not clear to me just how you reformatted D:, or whether C: is
> untouched. If C: is intact, and if you can take out that HD and move it
> into another computer, you should be able to recover all your data into
the
> other computer, then move it back into this one later.
>
> Only you know how much the "lost" data is worth to you. If it is valuable
> enough to you, and if Drive C: has not actually been reformatted, you
might
> buy a full retail copy of WinXP (either Home or Pro). Then boot from that
> retail WinXP CD-ROM and do an in-place upgrade, as described here:
> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341
>
> This will reinstall WinXP itself but, so long as your Registry is intact
on
> Drive C:, it will preserve your existing applications and data. It will
not
> give you an opportunity to increase the size of your existing partition,
> though, so you will not be better off than you were "before the issues".
To
> make a larger Drive C:, you really have only two options:
> backup/repartition/reformat/restore, or use a third-party solution.
>
> Many of us have had the problem of too-full Drive C:, so you will find
many
> threads here with tips on how to keep as much as possible in other
volumes.
> If you must repartition and reformat, try to make Drive C: at least 5 GB;
10
> is better, and many people (including Microsoft) recommend having only a
> single partition using all the space on the hard disk. (I like to
separate
> the few System Files into a minimal primary partition Drive C:, the
> operating system itself into logical Drive D:, and applications and data
> into one or more other logical drives, but that is a topic for another
> thread.)
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@corridor.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
>
> "Zattack" <nospam@orionfirst.com> wrote in message
> news:o HZ2UYevEHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
> > partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c
drive
> > was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
> > formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program files
> > that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
> > drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive, but
> > upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
> > found.
> >
> > I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally reformat
> > and
> > start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
to
> > get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where I
> > was
> > before the issues?
>

Thanks to everyone so far who have posted. I probably have not explained
the situation as well as could have. Basically the laptop was setup with a
partitioned 14 gig drive. Just over 5 allocated as the primary drive c and
less than 9 to an extended drive d. Problem is that everything, programs,
files, windows updates, etc were all going to drive c and it was maxed out
on space.

In an attempt on my part to try and find a solution so that the drive D
could be used more appropriately I ran across the disk management utility.
My goal was to try and clear drive d and somehow merge it back with c, which
I now know takes at least a separate piece of software such as Partition
Magic. I didn't have anything like that so what I naively did was
unallocate drive d. Then I reallocated it as a primary partition and
formatted it while still in disk management. If you are familiar with the
disk management utility it has a little window that displays the drives with
color codes and allows you to click on the drive you want to work with and
such. Once drive d had formatted it was the same color as drive c, listed
itself as a primary drive but still showed it with 9 gig of space as a
separate drive from that of drive c (also still listed as a primary drive.

After exiting the utility I was able to work on a word doc and jump on the
internet. I closed down and upon reboot recieved the error message. I am
fairly confident that the c drive is still intact since just shutting it
down should not have erased anything and since as Colin stated windows
shouldn't allow you to delete its active drive while you are working in
it... So my conclusion appears to be similar to yours, RC, that somehow the
partition format process I did screwed up the pointer for when I boot the
system. Without the ability to even reach a dos prompt or navigate outside
windows I don't even know how to fix the pointer problem or begin to
research it because Sony did not sell the Windows XP software, it built it
into the recovery disk as far I understand it. The Sony recovery disk has
only two options upon inserting it and rebooting: Format drive C and begin
new install or format all drives and begin install...

Does Fixboot provide a solution to this and if so is a new copy of WinXp the
only option? I will most likely start a new thread if I ever get the system
to boot correctly to fix the partitioned allocations but until then I want
to at least try to recovery the system as it was...
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
October 29, 2004 8:08:12 PM

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What has happened is that Disk Management made D: the active partition.

"Zattack" <nospam@orionfirst.com> wrote in message
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>
> "R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
> news:%23bbb2LfvEHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, Zattack.
>>
>> Several things here "do not compute". :>(
>>
>> First, as gls858 said, you can't use Disk Management to merge partitions.
>> DM can delete a partition and create a new one, or multiple smaller ones,
> in
>> that space. But DM can't shrink a partition or enlarge one or merge two.
>> And it can't do much of anything with the System Partition (almost always
>> Drive C:)  or the Boot Volume (often also Drive C:) .
>>
>> > Went into drive management and
>> > formatted d drive,
>>
>> OK. You would have been formatting D:, the logical drive within the
>> extended partition. An extended partition doesn't get a drive letter and
>> can't be formatted, but you can create one or more logical drives within
> the
>> extended partition, assign them letters and format them. So I assume
>> that
>> after this you had a primary partition (Drive C:)  and an extended
> partition
>> with one freshly-formatted logical drive (Drive D:) . Drive C: was both
> the
>> System Partition and the Boot Volume.
>>
>> > Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
>> > drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive,
>>
>> WHOA! HOW did you attempt to merge Drive D: back with Drive C:?
>>
>> Did you use any third-party tools, such as Partition Magic? Or only
>> WinXP
>> and its built-in utilities, such as Disk Management? Or perhaps some
>> utility supplied by Sony? Disk Management won't touch Drive C:,
>> normally.
>>
>> > upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
>> > found.
>>
>> That could be awful - or not. Maybe it can't find the operating system
>> because it's looking in the wrong place - on Drive A: (the floppy), for
>> example, or Drive D:, where the system hasn't been installed. If you
>> have
>> the retail WinXP CD-ROM, you might be able to boot it, then choose R to
>> enter the Recovery Console. From there, run FixBoot (and maybe FixMBR
>> and
>> BootCFG) to repair your boot sector and restore your ability to boot into
>> WinXP. I don't know if the Sony CD has the FixBoot utility.
>>
>> MAYBE all you need to do is point it back to Drive C:, but there's no way
> we
>> can tell that from here. The message could well mean that the operating
>> system has been erased from Drive C:. :>(
>>
>> > I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally
>> > reformat
>> > and
>> > start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
> to
>>
>> I've never had a Sony, but "recovery disks" often take the drastic step
>> of
>> returning your computer to the state it was in when it left the factory.
> In
>> other words, everything you've added will be gone and you will be
>> starting
>> over. If Drive C: has, in fact, been reformatted, this might be your
>> only
>> good option. I don't know whether you will have a chance to change the
> size
>> of Drive C:.
>>
>> For future reference (probably too late to do any good now), there is a
>> program on the full retail WinXP CD-ROM called DiskPart, a part of the
>> Recovery Console. (This is not the same as DiskPart.exe, which can be
>> run
>> from WinXP.) Whether this is on the Sony recovery disk, I don't know.
>> DiskPart has an /extend parameter that will "grow" a partition, if
>> several
>> requirements are met. Search the Help and Support file for details, but
> it
>> probably would not have helped you in this case, anyhow.
>>
>> It's not clear to me just how you reformatted D:, or whether C: is
>> untouched. If C: is intact, and if you can take out that HD and move it
>> into another computer, you should be able to recover all your data into
> the
>> other computer, then move it back into this one later.
>>
>> Only you know how much the "lost" data is worth to you. If it is
>> valuable
>> enough to you, and if Drive C: has not actually been reformatted, you
> might
>> buy a full retail copy of WinXP (either Home or Pro). Then boot from
>> that
>> retail WinXP CD-ROM and do an in-place upgrade, as described here:
>> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341
>>
>> This will reinstall WinXP itself but, so long as your Registry is intact
> on
>> Drive C:, it will preserve your existing applications and data. It will
> not
>> give you an opportunity to increase the size of your existing partition,
>> though, so you will not be better off than you were "before the issues".
> To
>> make a larger Drive C:, you really have only two options:
>> backup/repartition/reformat/restore, or use a third-party solution.
>>
>> Many of us have had the problem of too-full Drive C:, so you will find
> many
>> threads here with tips on how to keep as much as possible in other
> volumes.
>> If you must repartition and reformat, try to make Drive C: at least 5 GB;
> 10
>> is better, and many people (including Microsoft) recommend having only a
>> single partition using all the space on the hard disk. (I like to
> separate
>> the few System Files into a minimal primary partition Drive C:, the
>> operating system itself into logical Drive D:, and applications and data
>> into one or more other logical drives, but that is a topic for another
>> thread.)
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@corridor.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>
>> "Zattack" <nospam@orionfirst.com> wrote in message
>> news:o HZ2UYevEHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >I may be too late but... Have sony vaio laptop with XP home. Had drive
>> > partitioned to a c primary and d extended. Ran into issues as the c
> drive
>> > was full and nothing was going to d. Went into drive management and
>> > formatted d drive, as only data stored there was copies of program
>> > files
>> > that also existed in c drive. Upon attmpt to make it merge back with c
>> > drive, formatted it to also be primary drive. Didn't touch c drive,
>> > but
>> > upon restart laptop only displays one message: operating system not
>> > found.
>> >
>> > I have Sony recovery disks but they simply prompt me to totally
>> > reformat
>> > and
>> > start installation of system. Have I lost my data and is there any way
> to
>> > get the laptop to boot correctly to for now at least get back to where
>> > I
>> > was
>> > before the issues?
>>
>
> Thanks to everyone so far who have posted. I probably have not explained
> the situation as well as could have. Basically the laptop was setup with
> a
> partitioned 14 gig drive. Just over 5 allocated as the primary drive c
> and
> less than 9 to an extended drive d. Problem is that everything, programs,
> files, windows updates, etc were all going to drive c and it was maxed out
> on space.
>
> In an attempt on my part to try and find a solution so that the drive D
> could be used more appropriately I ran across the disk management utility.
> My goal was to try and clear drive d and somehow merge it back with c,
> which
> I now know takes at least a separate piece of software such as Partition
> Magic. I didn't have anything like that so what I naively did was
> unallocate drive d. Then I reallocated it as a primary partition and
> formatted it while still in disk management. If you are familiar with the
> disk management utility it has a little window that displays the drives
> with
> color codes and allows you to click on the drive you want to work with and
> such. Once drive d had formatted it was the same color as drive c, listed
> itself as a primary drive but still showed it with 9 gig of space as a
> separate drive from that of drive c (also still listed as a primary drive.
>
> After exiting the utility I was able to work on a word doc and jump on the
> internet. I closed down and upon reboot recieved the error message. I am
> fairly confident that the c drive is still intact since just shutting it
> down should not have erased anything and since as Colin stated windows
> shouldn't allow you to delete its active drive while you are working in
> it... So my conclusion appears to be similar to yours, RC, that somehow
> the
> partition format process I did screwed up the pointer for when I boot the
> system. Without the ability to even reach a dos prompt or navigate
> outside
> windows I don't even know how to fix the pointer problem or begin to
> research it because Sony did not sell the Windows XP software, it built it
> into the recovery disk as far I understand it. The Sony recovery disk has
> only two options upon inserting it and rebooting: Format drive C and
> begin
> new install or format all drives and begin install...
>
> Does Fixboot provide a solution to this and if so is a new copy of WinXp
> the
> only option? I will most likely start a new thread if I ever get the
> system
> to boot correctly to fix the partitioned allocations but until then I want
> to at least try to recovery the system as it was...
>
>
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