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September 5, 2006 7:28:20 PM

Due to a mobo failure I will be building a new computer a bit before I had planned to and now have the following delema.

I can get an ATI Radeon x1600 Pro 512MB for $140
or
I can get an ATI Radeon 1900XT 512mb for $275

Now thats not the hard part - I know the 1900XT will blow the pants off the x1600. The hard part (for me anyway) is whether to get the x1600 and choose to upgrade to a DX10 when they come down in price or get the 1900XT and wait longer till I upgrade (I know my wife will kill me if I get the 1900XT and then upgrade it again in 2 years). I am leaning towards the 1900XT but would appriciate some input.

The system will most likely be a C2D E6400 with 1 GB ram
The games I play are mostly BF2 and Oblivion (and the like)

Any advice is greatly appriciated and thanks in advance for your time!

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September 5, 2006 7:32:45 PM

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Due to a mobo failure I will be building a new computer a bit before I had planned to and now have the following delema.

I can get an ATI Radeon x1600 Pro 512MB for $140
or
I can get an ATI Radeon 1900XT 512mb for $275

Now thats not the hard part - I know the 1900XT will blow the pants off the x1600. The hard part (for me anyway) is whether to get the x1600 and choose to upgrade to a DX10 when they come down in price or get the 1900XT and wait longer till I upgrade (I know my wife will kill me if I get the 1900XT and then upgrade it again in 2 years). I am leaning towards the 1900XT but would appriciate some input.

The system will most likely be a C2D E6400 with 1 GB ram
The games I play are mostly BF2 and Oblivion (and the like)

Any advice is greatly appriciated and thanks in advance for your time!


Well, I can tell you that the 1600 pro does a pretty good job on BF2, but chokes on Oblivion if you try to get high settings (I have one). How important is HDR to you? If you're okay with turning it off and playing at around 25 FPS (in the outdoors), then the 1600 will suit you fine.

If that's going to make you throw your computer across the room, then get the 1900XT.

edit: The 1600pro can do HDR, but if you turn it on, outdoor frames drop into the teens and it's very tough to play especially with multiple enemies.
September 5, 2006 7:34:42 PM

If you plan on playing Oblivion, then the X1900XT is definitely the way to go. By getting the X1600pro you're going to feel the need to upgrade much much sooner than if you get the X1900XT.
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September 5, 2006 7:40:30 PM

If you're looking to keep things on the cheap, you should also consider this.

It'll beat up on that X1600pro any day. Stupid link didn't work. Anyway, take a look at the 7600GT.
a b U Graphics card
September 5, 2006 7:40:33 PM

Regardless of the GPU, get more memory, BF2 loves more than 1Gb, I imagine that oblivion does too.
September 5, 2006 7:54:43 PM

I'd get this BFG 7600GT OC for $114 (after a $30 MIR), and then upgrade to DX10. The 7600GT kills the X1600Pro/XT. The 7600GT should do pretty well in BF2 and Oblivion.
September 5, 2006 7:58:44 PM

I plan on getting more ram later - but having to buy a new computer now is stretching the budget a bit.

Thanks for the info on the 7600GT - i think thats the way I will go. Thanks for the great help!
a b U Graphics card
September 5, 2006 8:02:07 PM

needed to make sure about the RAM is all. No probs.
September 5, 2006 8:27:04 PM

Well there are plenty of benchmarks on this site and elsewhere e.g. anantech, especially when it comes to comparing cards for oblivion.

I'd be tempted by the 1900XT, not sure if you need the 512MB, though if it didn't cost any extra. What are the prices for an 1800XT or 1900GT? The 7600GT would probably do for now with a view to replacing it sooner rather than later. Who knows when there'll be much to take advantage of DX10.

Karl
September 5, 2006 8:57:37 PM

The downside to where I'm getting the cards from is that there are very few options. Really at the moment there is only the x1600 512mb and the 1900xt 512mb models available in PCIe.

I had looked at the ATI benchmarks but had not concidered the Nvidia cards since I didn't think there would be one that matched price/performance for the options I had. Heh - looks like I was wrong. Glad I asked though

On a positive note the x1900XT just dropped to $255 over the weekend (my prices were based on Friday's info). Does that affect anyone's recommendations?
September 5, 2006 9:02:18 PM

Yep, if you want a stopgap a cheap 7600 GT or X850 XT are your best bets. Both under $140 last time I checked, if you look around for a deal.

Bit a $250 X1900 XT is well worth it, too... especially for Oblivion.
September 6, 2006 8:04:22 AM

Quote:
Due to a mobo failure I will be building a new computer a bit before I had planned to and now have the following delema.

I can get an ATI Radeon x1600 Pro 512MB for $140
or
I can get an ATI Radeon 1900XT 512mb for $275

Now thats not the hard part - I know the 1900XT will blow the pants off the x1600. The hard part (for me anyway) is whether to get the x1600 and choose to upgrade to a DX10 when they come down in price or get the 1900XT and wait longer till I upgrade (I know my wife will kill me if I get the 1900XT and then upgrade it again in 2 years). I am leaning towards the 1900XT but would appriciate some input.

The system will most likely be a C2D E6400 with 1 GB ram
The games I play are mostly BF2 and Oblivion (and the like)

Any advice is greatly appriciated and thanks in advance for your time!


from where are u going to purchase the 1900XT 512 MB for 275$?
as far as i know ATI Radeon 1900XT 512mb sells for 316$+.
September 6, 2006 11:42:34 AM

ATI accomadations for stores that sell their cards
September 6, 2006 12:33:52 PM

X1950 Pro should arrive in the end of September priced at around 200$ and it will fill in the gap between X1600XT and X1900XT. It will have 600mhz core and 1400 mhz memory just like X1600XT, but will feature 256-bit memory interface and 24 pixel shader processors instead of 128-bit interface and 12 pixel shader processors. X1900XT has +25mhz core speed, +50 mhz memory speed and +24 pixel shader processors compared to X1950 Pro, though.
September 6, 2006 1:29:33 PM

Memory: Here read this link, especially the comment from sojrner. 1GB vs 2GB Memory

@ Exterous

Video Card: It sounds like you want to keep this next video card for awhile (~3-4 years??). Personally, I'd wait until DX10 comes out and then spend around $300 dollars for one instead of buying a 7600GT for ~$120 and then only getting a DX10 card for ~$180.

If you must have a card, then you can pick up an X1900XTX for $284 with MIR. It's currently out-of-stock but the purchase has to be made by 9/30.MSI X1900XTX

Otherwise, if you can get the X1900XT without a MIR, then I'd go with that.
a b U Graphics card
September 6, 2006 1:41:41 PM

I know that I got some (unquantifiable) improvement from 1 to 2Gb on my old system, of course that could have been a lower powered system not having to swap constantly? I checked overall PF usage during BF2, and it was at about 1.3Gb Given a base load of windows being around the 300Mb-400Mb mark, I'd suggest that going to above 1Gb even to 1.5Gn would reduce the reliance on swap files.

Obviously a better card would help, was merely making the point that 1Gb will be a limiting factor, dependant on how much is happening in background in windows.
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