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September 6, 2006 3:36:16 PM

OK Guys, need your help.

I been thinking about replacing my 3.0p4 800mhz fsb socket 478 System for a while I like to play q4, Fear, WoW and will try some other MMORPG's.

I need you help putting together the best bang for the buck system, I understand its easy to go overboard and build a SLI 7950 with Conroe Extreme but i just cannot afford that I am a gamer and like the best quality but I live on a budget. If you could build a system right now what would it be?

First advice I have seen is a Conroe 6400+
Second people are saying DDR2 667 vs DDR2 800 because of 1:1
I really dont have plans to overclock as in the past it just cause issues, I am looking for stability and something I can keep and play games for atleast 2 years.

Thanks all
Chris

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September 6, 2006 4:26:51 PM

You really have to state your budget for us to decide what is the best bang for your buck.

The best bang for my buck is either the X2 3800+ or the E6300. Some may say the X2 4200+, but at that price you might as well go for the E6300. So the X2 3800+ is a good value chip while the E6300 is a good value chip if-you-can-spend-a-little-bit-more :lol: 

Graphically, you can find some good value in the X1800GTO and 7900GT.
September 6, 2006 4:43:06 PM

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OK Guys, need your help.

I been thinking about replacing my 3.0p4 800mhz fsb socket 478 System for a while I like to play q4, Fear, WoW and will try some other MMORPG's.

I need you help putting together the best bang for the buck system, I understand its easy to go overboard and build a SLI 7950 with Conroe Extreme but i just cannot afford that I am a gamer and like the best quality but I live on a budget. If you could build a system right now what would it be?

First advice I have seen is a Conroe 6400+
Second people are saying DDR2 667 vs DDR2 800 because of 1:1
I really dont have plans to overclock as in the past it just cause issues, I am looking for stability and something I can keep and play games for atleast 2 years.

Thanks all
Chris


1) Asus P5B Motherboard $156USD
2) Intel Core 2 Duo E6300/E6400 Processor (1.86-2.13GHz) Performs like an AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+ - FX60. $191USD - $235USD
3) 2GB Corsair or G.Skill PC2 5400 DDR2 Memory (675MHz) $189USD - $230USD
4) MSI Radeon x1900XT 512MB Graphics card (near the same price as a 7900GT but up to two times faster). $275USD
5) 320GB Seagate 7200.10 7,200RPM 16MB Cache HD $95USD
6) Fortron 550W PSU $113USD

That's your best bang for the buck system.. ;) 
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September 6, 2006 4:54:35 PM

I notice in your sig that u have a P5WDH board but ure recommending a P5B. Any particular reason? Is the P5B better than the P5WDH? Its been quite strenuous on me too in deciding whether to go for a 975x board or a 965.
September 6, 2006 5:07:00 PM

Best bang for the buck right now is 6-pack of cheap beer and a cheap hooker. Really. Okay, I would suggest the E6300 or E6600 and 7900GT with 2Gb of ramage. That should be enough for you to play Q4, FEAR and Oblivion.
September 6, 2006 5:09:36 PM

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I notice in your sig that u have a P5WDH board but ure recommending a P5B. Any particular reason? Is the P5B better than the P5WDH? Its been quite strenuous on me too in deciding whether to go for a 975x board or a 965.


P5WDH is arguably the best Core 2 Duo motherboard yet. I recommended the P5B due to the thread starter asking for the best bang for the buck. P5WDH is quite expensive.
September 6, 2006 5:27:04 PM

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You really have to state your budget for us to decide what is the best bang for your buck.

The best bang for my buck is either the X2 3800+ or the E6300. Some may say the X2 4200+, but at that price you might as well go for the E6300. So the X2 3800+ is a good value chip while the E6300 is a good value chip if-you-can-spend-a-little-bit-more :lol: 

Graphically, you can find some good value in the X1800GTO and 7900GT.


Also...how much buck are you willing to spend?
September 6, 2006 5:46:23 PM

Probably around 600-800$ max.

But I orignally started a post on the CPU forum to see if i could wake up my old p4 3.0 800mhz s478 seems like that is a lost cause, also wish I could reuse my pc3200 memory that also seems like its a waste. So basically Ill probably only replace the critical components for gaming for right now and consider replacing the ps, hd, case, cdr, etc. at a later date.

Thanks for your input guys.

Also I see there is a new video card standard comming out, should I just hold tight and wait for the X10, can someone please explain what it is ill try and do some research on my own thanks again

Chris
September 6, 2006 6:32:54 PM

You don't get much bang for your money with that figure. Here is my recent build. Total is $1630, but this is based upon my needs, which included some gaming and use as a PVR (the reason for the All-In-Wonder and 1TB hard drive space) I am re-using my old DVD drives, case and floppy, but I included them for full cost comparison.


Processor: E6600 345.00
Motherboard ABIT AB9 Pro 159.00
Power Supply: Antec Neo HE 550 79.00
Hard Drives (2) WD 500 GB (16mb) 320.00
Memory 2 GB Corsair 800mhz 219.00
Fans: Antec Blue LED 18.00
Video Card ATI All In Wonder 1900 XL 230.00
Case: ThermalTake LazerIII 125.00
DVD ROMs HP/TDK 120.00
Floppy Drive 15.00

Total: 1,630.00

The processor gives you great price/performance return. The Abit MB is highly rated, not as overclockable as the Asus, but about $100 less expensive and comparable at stock speeds. The hard drives are excellent and I will place in RAID 0 for better performance, and the memory give good price/performance results.

To get under $800 is very tough - I would recommend the E6300, the Abit board, 1 Gb of memory, a good power supply, cheap case and spend the rest on the video card.
September 6, 2006 8:32:43 PM

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Probably around 600-800$ max.

But I orignally started a post on the CPU forum to see if i could wake up my old p4 3.0 800mhz s478 seems like that is a lost cause, also wish I could reuse my pc3200 memory that also seems like its a waste. So basically Ill probably only replace the critical components for gaming for right now and consider replacing the ps, hd, case, cdr, etc. at a later date.


I was in the same boat. I kept my PC3200 and went with an AMD X2 3800+ ($152) and an ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 ($65). The board is a 939 with a expansion slot for a future addition of an AM2 socket. It has both AGP and PCIe, so I'm able to keep the X700 Pro that I just bought with the capability for a new card later. Dual core and flexibility for under $250. I just got it yesterday, so I haven't had the chance to put it together yet.
September 6, 2006 8:42:46 PM

Best, least expensive motherboard for Core2Duo CPUs is the Asrock ConroeXfire-Esata2. Performance is on par with the Intel 965 chipset boards, and it's HALF the cost.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


Since you are NOT overclocking, this fits the bill for you perfectly. Ignore the reviews on this motherboard from the people looking for a free lunch - it's exactly what you're looking for.

If it's the same cost and latencies, go for DDR2 800 instead of 667.

I build systems for a living, and have done several dozen of them with this board. It's built by ASUS under the Asrock name.
September 6, 2006 8:51:06 PM

If you want the latest CPU, you'll pay a premium. I went ghetto style, watching the bundle/closeout/rebate offers to assemble this:
* Antec Super Lanboy case ($20 AR)
* Ultra X2-Connect 550w PS ($60)
* Abit NI8 SLI MB ($60)
* Pentium D 805 ($113)
* Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU hs/fan w/AS5 paste ($25 + $6)
* 2x 512MB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-675/CL4 RAM (2x $44)
* MSI NX7600GS (passive cooling) ($124)
* 2x Maxtor 300GB SATA drives as RAID 1 array (2x $87)
* Samsung DVD DL writer ($40)
* Fan card in PCI slot blowing toward graphics card ($10)
* ABit uGuru Clock (GREAT item!) ($20 on eBay)
* 2x 50mmx15mm fans for PWM/radiator area (2x $5)
* misc alum heat sink bits for voltage regulators ($5)
* misc bling (UV tubes, colored sleeving & ties, etc) ($10)
Total: ~$665 excluding 2nd maxtor and uGuru clock.

Currently O/C to 3.68GHz w/no issues. Since then, 805D prices are down about $20, but RAM is more expensive. Just pointing out that if you really want to minimize the cost, going with closeouts/last generation on certain components can help out a lot.
September 6, 2006 9:23:24 PM

Ok I am slightly confused in a good way,

SLI = pcix 16 in 2 slots on the MB

However I have seen some SLI's are 2 pcix 8/8 so that means your basically not utilizing the full bandwidth?

is there a SLI thats true 16/16?

Please comment, thanks for the input guys,

is pcix4 vs pci16 a really huge difference?

Chris
September 6, 2006 9:36:56 PM

SLI is rarely worthwhile in practice, because newer, faster single boards come out all the time, and you need matched video boards to run in SLI mode. If you're not going to buy a pair of SLI boards right away or very soon, it shouldn't be a consideration.
Original SLI is a pcix 16 modified to share 8, giving, in effect, 2x pcix 8. Thus, pcix 4 is not a "real" SLI setup. More recently, nVidia has come out w/a real 2x pcix 16 SLI design; there are a few MBs out that use it.
September 6, 2006 10:08:38 PM

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Graphically, you can find some good value in the X1800GTO and 7900GT.


Forget the X1800GTO; it's too expensive for the performance. If you don't mind open box, this Sapphire X1800XT is a steal for $180. Otherwise, the BFG 7600GT OC is amazing for $114.
September 6, 2006 10:10:56 PM

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You don't get much bang for your money with that figure.


Not necessarily true.

The games that the OP is trying to play aren't exactly state of the art (fun but not state of the art) and as such you don't need Oblivion level hardware to play them.

I'm a fan of dual core due to multitasking ability but almost anything in the P4 range and Athlon 64 range can play these games plenty fast, and with somthing like an X1800XT, all the eye candy can be turned on at 1280x1024 with great frame rates.

My suggestion would be somthing like an AM2 Athlon64 x2 3800+ ($149 with motherboard in today's Fry's ad) and a X1800XT. That's $350-400 worth. Then add $100 for 1GB of DDR2. Add $100 for a case if you must spend that much- there are always good deals to be found (for example, got a CM Centurion 532 for $44 a couple weeks ago)That's just $600 and he has achieved his goal.

Only caveat is how to find all this stuff for these prices in Thailand...
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